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Ep. 1472: The Internet and the end of snow daysOn today's show, Eric Schmidt appears to spout off wildly about fighting anti-piracy laws to the death, but frankly, we kind of agree. Also, LinkedIn's IPO goes bonkers, Apple is close to signing all the necessary music labels to its hoped-for Amazon...
Today is Thursday may nineteenth 2011 mining was even Beecham I'm Donald bell I -- Hollywood's love in a buzz out loud is cnet's podcast of indeterminate -- -- -- episode 14170. He would want or I'm the same colors the wall. We are also a pain and your knowledge in the video I don't know this is the first Time Warner blue shirt in deep blue learning studio and it. -- -- you use them disembodied head I am I'm uploading had a and that voice that that the -- -- you just heard actually. Was John Falcone CNET executive editor from New York. Joining -- the hey. -- one of his rare visit Steve the west coasts and rare is it to can't suddenly -- planet -- -- -- -- does not here. Not -- -- out in California we are here and -- and please delete -- -- You wouldn't you wouldn't believe how efficient everyone is and how dark all the clothes aren't I mean that's black -- to figure -- -- -- -- and native anyway Brian Tong is shooting this morning he's doing and -- at the general work with a rifle into -- -- -- practical loading is trying to decide between a -- and think you know that we can I do think you with a banana clip this this and. But we're -- we can handle it we can hold -- -- financing. -- feel good about in -- it started on time and that. Like -- and even here yet they're like com -- they started the preacher I haven't heard of who took the. I look at their let's get right to the news though an infant -- that. Google and the MPAA -- a little bit of a slap fight. As of late yesterday afternoon because. Google chair and -- and Eric Schmidt. As is his want. Was spouting off a little -- and their experience slapped by. Again I take it and it -- -- on this whole story well and -- But that is space would never chains linking to them and does not break fast -- -- -- -- -- and that the eaten. Anyway hint hint. -- evidently was talking about the the new pro IP protect IP act which has been introduced in the US -- -- and made some comments to the effect that no matter what happens even if the -- is approved that Google is of the opinion that it would set a disastrous precedent. For free speech that it's very bad law and then even if it passes -- -- -- that because they're both houses of congress if it if Obama signs that. It doesn't matter we're gonna keep fighting. I did everything -- battle that's. I think that's the right way to go -- you know I've. I think any tiny you know take Eric Schmidt and they -- you've. Have -- think it's really strong position he does he doesn't fill the role of like. Humiliating. But that person is gonna be absolute about that taking a position taking a hardliner with on the doesn't -- that kind of tests superhero of Internet content and roll the you want someone else beat -- and we reserve there to steal all content whenever and wherever -- please. Paragraph. But for awhile and it does it make that even stronger statement in them and to to a certain -- it -- Schmidt is I mean he is not. A reserved and carefully spoken man as we know effectively brought up like a funny list of United's top ten most quotable moments like when he said that they like to go up right up to the -- -- -- not beyond that rank as the one of my all time they have and there are definitely some Google insiders who suggested to news.com that you know maybe he was speaking a little bit. Strongly. However. I gotta say it I thought headline early this morning that said where are the other tech CEOs and I agree yeah I mean the fact is like the -- the protect IP act is. Unbelievably broad it does it seems to show a stunning lack of understanding about the technology that it attempts to regulate is literally talking about affecting. The DNS. About you know it would give the government -- the right to just remove domains. -- will if they're suspected of infringing which could easily include -- talked about Google. EBay you know any Craig's list any site that may or may not. Accidentally linked -- infringing content. And until like we see already -- you go to some of these more fringe. The torrent sites you see that great big. Homeland Security emblem in your face like this domain has been seized by the US government. -- and they've been doing it so far without any due process whatsoever which is on on its -- appalling but now they're trying to at least them. Legalize it but I think -- -- like a good job Google and good job Eric Schmidt for saying no this is bad line it would break the Internet and it is terrible for free speech which it is. -- also terrible for free speech worldwide because we're setting this precedent. And we can't we can't wag our finger at China or whoever else but other nation might do the same thing to their citizens but if we're doing the same thing to ours well -- I know globally at the total disaster because at least like at least in the US. We're just sort of sweaty and paranoid about piracy but -- In other parts of the world they are literally sweaty and -- and paranoid about. Reproductive and me for going on on top of that -- reproductive rights or or just basic information to. Nothing happening Carolina want to political -- political movement exactly like. You -- the US should not be setting a precedent for stamping out chunks of the Internet that link to things we don't like. That in the bad global president that they -- the silver lining -- this could be the great for like printed media. -- you know a few -- we had some political opinion that was unfavorable lead at that get on the printing press and actually male -- -- -- people but. -- -- -- and I am grateful that I like southern -- around and -- the doors and it's also good for my upcoming series of books about public demean heroes such as Sherlock Holmes and if you're a -- Shakespearean characters and working on it's -- be -- and like Dell made heroes. It'll. Anyway I say you know fight the good fight Eric Schmidt the MPA not surprisingly. Issued its response in the form of a blog post titled Google says it won't Obey a content theft -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- They don't care -- -- -- facilitate that. There -- on the side of right -- -- that if they don't steal our stuff -- and they don't they don't actually care if there and -- -- at that that's actually not what if you didn't he didn't say anything like we won't Obey the law. That we think it's -- -- -- -- president will continue to fight it no matter what. But thanks for thanks for go -- and just you know. Making -- -- part of year were full of crap again and -- -- like Google loves errands or something that. It was pretty close to -- fifth if it would it was ERA chief -- glasses and -- dramatic fashion and -- the project is news ago. New machine Google yeah you can -- Nine got to know that they with the arrogantly cinematic they are pretty cute they -- anthem blog post that and then just. Frankly remarkable but MPAA as it is obviously up in arms about -- In you know which now which side you're on a good exclusive over here it is that come from our own great -- of all about how Apple has. Now signed a cloud music licensing agreement with EMI and is very near to completing deals with universal and Sony music. And pretty close to basically locked in -- All the major labels that they need for their music if they're playing catchup because of Warner's artists as that for right and -- -- -- So that would potentially let them launch a service that would have. More features than Amazon and Google cloud service. The -- feature being the classic -- one where they -- scan your hard drive and then fingerprint collection and that such as well -- and -- -- people taking weeks to -- an editor at Amazon literally had to know it and if you have enough music and play again. -- -- While the other thing I think that it let you do read his re download then your music want -- -- fingerprinted. You -- -- re download it to multiple devices which is so far something that Amazon and maybe if he knew I -- I would. Be willing to bet that would only work. For once you've already purchased. From nineteen -- Maybe I did okay I can see that and even that idea even if you have that even if you're downloading a -- -- hear your iPhone iPad or whatever I mean obviously the devices. Has historically been will continue to be locked up. For if you connected to your computer and getting those files off the iPhone and that's always been the irony -- made is that Apple. They're not generic storage devices yet they've always been what's -- a limit of five basically yeah -- account. -- I mean let's not get you through let's not get too optimistic about extra features that this would enable me to think there's a reason that Amazon and Google felt like they can just go ahead. And provide a pretty good service without it get on board to these guys definitely aren't going to agree to. Anything that would maybe make it super useful -- Google alluded to just that when they announced the Google music data. Which was that -- They've -- -- a big fantastic about how. That the industry was basically more interest in and just putting up artificial roadblocks -- in briefing animation. Well yeah play any if they -- Apple they actually doing their part to make sure the deals are done. Ahead of the -- relief that that it is saying we're gonna do this -- -- the deals later -- Amazon. Well I saw his -- that techcrunch. MG Sigler was. Using great story -- to suggest that I mean the Amazon and Google to remove the labels in -- Apple's arms musically. Story that -- -- -- -- it was a weird world when the -- we're now putting all their hopes -- blood alcohol food coloring and when but if they won't let Apple have any differentiating features and then something like -- -- does eventually make its way to inhibit state are -- It I don't know that I don't know what Apple's going to be able to offer that's so. Far and away -- Then just simple -- music -- -- really it's pretty you know especially if they don't properly downloading to -- that's the only killer feature I can think you know off my head. Now we we will keep an -- on -- -- will -- we -- confident given and I today on the link in IPO. But all watch. They and it just became what the biggest tech IPO in years the first tech IPO in quite a long time and they had. A pretty monster outing actually we've been we've been -- ignoring the story all week just to wait and see what would happen to -- like -- they're valued at this Matt Matt. They priced their IPO. At 45 dollars per share -- the company valuation of four point five billion dollars. And then they began trading. At 83 dollars and have fluctuated as high as into the ninety's or think -- heard at one point went up to well the right now it's one of four. 104. Dollars per share. For hyper -- Personally I still don't understand I know it or how do you that's up 59 dollars or 131%. That. That it bubble taps and actually really interesting story and silicon Alley insider about how the underwriters. Of the IPO completely through it by valuing it so low in the first place -- valuing at 45 -- because they sold. All of there investors -- got they have -- -- -- partner investors who are. It's institutions institutions -- I don't understand how it's legal help elderly by these -- these shares at a time so they all got to buy and have 45 dollars. Which has its own. Business and that are part of that Morgan Stanley Bank of America and the other underwriters screwed linked in and its shareholders to the tune of -- 175 million dollars. I would remember when -- than ever with Google -- -- -- their -- and they did that weird like. Dutch auction thing -- again giving away billions of dollars woman native ten after it happened and he and confused everyone about documents. And a glossary -- investment -- 700 dollar fine and a ball at all going to be slightly differently than minister not unhappy at all to have opened with a seven point eight billion dollar. Market cap with. Just to put this in perspective. A hundred million users. To Facebook's 500 million users so they can buy you Meyer Warner Music now. Yeah that'll be good. At an elegant and -- -- -- what do you think is is this Blake. You know people have been speculating about whether this is the Netscape moment -- it's gonna kick off a whole new round of attack IPOs hold you bubble. Does it feel it linked in is worth seven point whatever billion dollars. Complete billion dollars the brain. Linked -- You know that you know you're valuing dual led 400 billion dollars Shuler. A leader times or -- -- FaceBook you know if it but yeah these are all basically like proxy. Pleas for -- -- Social network I you know I -- -- -- is currently good job. Finding -- working professional service -- currently. Where you go to make sure your resume pretty well we stuck with recommendations. Which I mean you can argue that that is potentially more valuable than just -- general service. I mean it depends on how you -- the audience of -- that audiences more valuable because they're like. Affluent business people looking for jobs there and niche market if you advertise -- -- because of their demographic. Maybe. I don't know I was shocked not gonna -- -- Monsters still independent and treated there was vapor. Now -- and Jerry -- note the wiggle laughed when office certainly couldn't think FF. I'm there will -- soon enough -- -- it sued I also don't edit I would be now. I would never pretend to understand that weird and wild -- Wall Street. Hampshire I was when employed while the actual rate that's so funny completely only you guys to figure out what it does expect it to anybody -- -- why -- -- I've been. -- -- Sony -- like -- that we can and it. Sony would like up to now that despite reports yesterday that there was yet another -- and public its members little -- They have put them and like -- there was not a hack. We were not there was not another exploit we temporarily took down the PS -- curiosity password reset page. But in the process of refining -- currently covered because in the process of -- -- we discovered that there was a URL exploit. That we have subsequently. But there was no -- hours of sleep a little tiny mini actually think that it's though exactly. You know secure and ideally it should go find is that no way to tell -- to get out because -- -- and academic play ice still eighth. Don't understand. If you had not met all of Japan's requirements like you even put that thing back up. You know you know I was so. Pissed off when I. I remember years -- -- -- -- PS3 -- set it up and tried -- Tried to put in three credit cards counselor now in it's -- -- county and for whatever reason it was a temporary thing or not that day. You wouldn't accept any my credit card -- So I ended up just like -- taking stop buying it 25 dollar you know PS and card basically. Now -- leaders like also my it might -- easily -- critical. I'd go in -- and -- government backed up to update my password. And what I see on the web based -- is that even though my Amex card wasn't. Activated an attached to my -- it was still sitting there. As the number in there yes there wow that's Jenny key with that is doubtless I think it fun. That the felt like fun but a good time. What I want to knows how did they discover the -- explain if it wasn't exploited. I mean clearly someone pointed -- out -- the security researchers who published in other reproduce -- information about the exploit. -- made at and mean I guess they may have been in May be technically accurate for them to -- there was no hack in that nobody came in installments of information that somebody clearly exploited. This and and if anything it suggests to me that they're still not buttoned up all the way to an act -- -- -- Get it together and heat because really -- -- -- that in the buzz report that posting later today spoiler alert that that benefit of the doubt supplies as far as Sony is concerned are pretty well right -- it. I -- was I really wanna be venturing bank credit card information to for a while. You SP Mikey is that that's the company Allen invested as the security firm that just got the Sony contract that that he thinks it. It's easy street for -- -- the spores Sony they -- big that they have to be perfect right now sorry that's just. That the ideal you're you're perfect for the next year or -- -- or you're gonna suffer for the next decade also so this is the company if you think. The myth that perception of them being very controlling and having their control for the products that tightly that went something like this comes along kind of it makes you wonder makes you wonder but also gonna -- that -- that -- so. Tightly controlled -- -- while no one has ever. Let's take a quick break when we come back we're going to talk about be shocking news. That there may in fact -- viruses and while none of us and believe it. One well though shocking news about Kindle books films and the handling thousands every orders have begun. My number. Welcome back to buzz out loud -- when I'm Molly Wood here with Donald bell John Strickland. And the department mainly athletes out they got -- Well hello and it does not coated the needs of dancing -- out right now you and I didn't you let go and -- And John Falcone -- there. And have an air roll call. -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- It there has been ongoing controversy of the result of an -- -- report over the cnet.com. He posted that. There was serious malware. Coming -- and maybe even already in the wild. On the Mac no money -- and that essentially the response that he got he put this on May second. And then you know why Mac now Mac malware is on the way and and it is coming in -- -- is in the lab and then he got so much like. John Gruber from daring fireball talked about how he was just totally crying wolf he got all of these. Responses from Apple fan -- if you -- just like you very faint. There are no viruses on the Mac. Though because you because that you know if luck -- elegant not possible. No -- -- EO Steve Jobs with its 21 comments -- in fact even insinuated at botany at the whole thing. Is made up because as we know yet nothing is un hackable. Except for and a the Mac it can be exploited. To anyway -- that -- look. I spoke for the customer service threat until an Apple care -- who confirmed that the malware problem is getting worse obviously cannot name the person. The -- the person spoke under condition of anonymity in an instantly me fired. And Apple's secret -- and dumped her house -- his house or whatever colleges so he says I think they. Hulu thing I did -- that here yesterday I've spent several hours. Going through discussions dot Apple dot com and collecting requests for help for Mac users who have been affected by -- issue some kind of an hour or virus infection. -- that I found more than 200. Separate discussion -- many of them from people who have been tricked into installing the software and are desperately trying to remove it it started with or post on April 30. This past -- and there were 42 unique new discussion thread. On the subject and that I've done similar fixes in the past especially after reading from the same posts that Gruber called up from 2000 it -- there was initially like a malware scanner. Back then -- that I have never found more than one or two in the wild reports and this time he said the volume is truly exceptional. Only in vitro he's been able of these people learned these are probably crazy like lunatic crazy -- -- think they had -- Mac. Clement told them it's a Mac but it's really Windows 7 machine. It if -- they -- -- annual running windows on their Macs are also of course as. Made up -- that is manipulative. If I leave it there really that taking -- a pizza box right now I have no idea with I mean. It is it the thing here and this is. I -- one reason there's. A false sense security for Mac OS I think is that. I mean first of all imagine I don't even know exactly what this is are alleged to be but -- it was just a sophisticated Phishing attack basically wear them. It's not -- in -- in that case a fault of operating system and software but people can still be you know it's still security problem basically. -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- hum gonna when I think that this this I am now marketing director conversation I had two weeks ago with someone -- like India and my computer is overrun with porn pop up and it's really -- exactly what he's describing here which is you know these porn sites just keep popping up over and over. In music and notice me because it's on my MacBook Pro and -- -- like -- but I did the same thing -- -- rely on your Mac. I don't think it's a virus. -- Because if you are like -- it's a feature when they can lift him out but conditioning definitely worth the stomach that reflects on -- on a Mac that can't be Willa this person just elect with. Video of their screens and I think human -- in Canada c'mon I'm telling -- the that Mac people can get they're gonna -- via the look you're clearly. This is a hoax yet we can't be -- -- -- -- Jack. Here's here's what he. A third party program is the one that has a problem it's not the illness. -- indictments and that my father in line with the experience and I've been -- -- -- him. And I'm a Mac it's not a virus thanks to be -- not a -- It is AA -- is malware. So it is where there aren't any. Where guardian I already being crafted -- Arabic not a virus its malware now -- atlantis' visit dolby. -- guilty and by figure out. Adobe. Flash flash exploit -- Anyway there you go ahead feel okay yeah I told you this is why we now have flash -- you guys plan. I know that there's the difference as. To -- clear. It is it is malware it appears to -- something -- people are downloading by accident when they think that there is like a real and official update. Or a legitimate program that is requesting -- -- I am. -- -- -- And -- is once you. However it's so weak I word things without the caution. That if someone's yearly the person you came to me in public -- of porn pop up on my Mac. You kind of can't say any more allotment. Now must not be any time and intrusion because you you. Or it happening and there's no reason that it wouldn't be happening -- as well technically possible that system and thinking it's -- Apple who's behind if they want to get all your software through the App Store. On the Mac and -- would have to. -- apparently. That Macs don't get malware. Anyway apparently they view the world would allegedly have a -- and allegedly disciple -- people and it's getting works. Let's move on it -- you know go ahead and I'll. Do it. Like -- nine paragraph semantic breakdown of the difference between malware and virus no matter. It ignore the fact that eighty inadequate and -- frequently injured people in. Common parlance -- bringing it. -- -- Amazon to report that remarkable data actually -- -- that not conduct a press. And punched and stick and vote on -- propellers and yet Amazon press release. And and CNET news which is that Amazon's reporting -- it is now selling more Kindle e-book. Then print books. Period will no disclaimers no link hardback books no -- -- -- trade paperback and no like. Ones that are only -- -- and secretly they are selling markedly but then and then print books period on him. And that does not count the free. In thing. -- I mean you don't think -- I think it's and it's really interest in mouth about it. You know that it's something we could -- -- it is -- -- -- ignores it malware. At. I guess I get audiences pretty -- -- -- it is happening on Amazon it would make sense of that is not in the obviously more likely to buy Kindle -- but. That pricing changes make it somewhat surprising to me and the availability. It simply the fact that a lot of that there you can still mine but -- frightening number but that aren't available for. I was happy but it's them. Off with that and well you know -- for reading -- -- have a good time when the new unit at. Win the political Kindle can do with free offers came out. Few weeks ago. Some people cuckoo that like -- it's only 25 dollars last and it's still 114 it should be 99. -- that was all true but apparently that's already there -- As -- -- if they were announcing the rate of that at which that is selling is better. In like a three week period than previous candles or they're selling it actually sold more than than than past models and in just a really short time but. That apparently is selling like hotcakes and -- to reaffirm we -- said on CNET about that. If anybody thought the ads on -- where invasive -- like popping you know pop up server. Coming in the middle of your reading -- -- not -- it's literally just. The screen savers when the thing goes off basically sensitive instead -- -- a picture of Ernest Hemingway it's -- and now. And no big via and then when you -- to turn on it has that same -- is like a little tiny banner at the bottom of the index it's a really wanna take advantage of it it's just the start -- both start weeping and in the book. That's up to modestly and restraint from. Well let's be honest and in the killer the killer app there is literally the app the back at the Kindle app is available on every single platform the extent -- the center. We still don't know what's gonna happen with that -- now before end June 30 will it really interest and will it eventually come off of violent devices that will be Aetna will be a watershed moment there if if Amazon pulled it because then. The ad revenue split requirement. We -- the also in the news today just a good read -- check it out over at cnet.com. There were many hysterical reports earlier this week. Including Hampshire on the show island urban island and -- -- About a security vulnerability in some Google apps on Android the headlines were like 99.9. Percent of Android phones are not vulnerable to this. Security vulnerability will I definitely -- -- you -- Android phone. So the unit at Burnett is breaking down why the threat is a little overblown and in fact it is not even hundred specific it is mostly about authorization token. Within apps specifically Google apps in this case but in other apps as well though it -- it's a good read we're not gonna go through it. All the way but I'm talking back down. But we're gonna talk to back down a little bit and then also Google acknowledged that that vulnerability does exist and that they are already. Rolling at a fixed. It will roll out over the next few days and requires no action from users so at my Hollywood you harp on this Apple mail alleged malware story that you're tested its. Has had a feeling that we -- fitting in my box right now. -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- Perhaps should be that would -- an awesome little mini mini business I just bought that you know and I got a fifth on -- are the maybe like all the things that people write you and your Twitter -- through the -- you can't build third party Twitter -- anymore -- now and he can have direct messages or whatever we just dump answered that it can be using that Twitter developers dramatic and and I know without. -- the first it turns out of of the rest of the cricket. All my gosh you guys are little babies are all grown up -- -- of it has been ten years since the first Apple restore retail store opened its anniversary. Of the Apple Store. And I'm shocked and -- simply that argument and -- until late that totally fed back in 2001 when the doors are opening. I sadly for everybody else I only say this verbally and not in written form. -- somebody dated business -- summit but I basically said. Apple opening retail stores this will be their death -- Up at the end of Apple yeah I was like this is just gonna be elected as gateways tumors that and that company that -- that retails a horrible business there's no margins I wouldn't be wanted to do this. You know they're only gonna sell maxi -- -- at best buy them and horrible horrible idea. Wrong wrong wrong wrong and we've -- -- there. We've all been there to that every filter that actually the secret thoughts now yeah I love how some of these photos to in the story can select the -- in the background -- the big candy colored. You know. One the RT IMAX in the back I am shocked that it is now aren't I just feel like they need to just go all the way now and you know -- -- Apple mall -- basically look at everybody a Starbucks style experience in there and this you know competent knowledge it. Acknowledged that it's a destination to state of the art art and literature the thing -- -- have a photo but I with here. -- tell -- -- look at. An Apple Store and you know it's basically an underground cave and it's just that. The glass Q this. So is the Louvre -- doesn't stop people from go to -- that. Terrible news for windows phone seven. Possibly the death -- in fact I don't think it would be if you can't -- there I think you're right on track -- -- commuted death knell for windows phone seven. Angry Birds or windows phone seven. Is delayed. When rumors reports the -- all around on -- -- makers stopped. New mobile platform June 20 ninth instead of may 25 well done -- Is why this is so sad that the biggest announce like the Chrome version of Angry Birds -- heat today -- they've turned -- around pretty quake. Combined. That at Harvard and yet to do. I that with excellent these Samsung Galaxy Tab -- one pre orders. Starting now at 499. Dollars. Exactly the same price has yet it is on that yeah I'm an ethernet sixty games there. Think that's sixty I think there's a 60 -- predictive. Morning in the enterprise and I know I should -- all the great -- right now that we're dealing with. That people are excited about are at that the 300 and and price point and uses. Or 440 -- which is the -- And a man maybe discounting -- the confusion factor that -- you go into the store and you'll need it and it looked exactly like iPad and exactly the same kind of an inability like that in this I want that iPad I mean I'm just so glad I got a Lynette Miller. Look like the commercial and all I'm so happy that it's fully compatible with all my PD MIA accessories that use it and network. Thank goodness rate at least it is the same pricing now at least it's not -- And all the rumors -- point to it being only available -- from. But by and is the and that's don't want -- -- -- and one. Really at you yeah I mean I want the monitors and carrier with playing -- Let let's move on to science -- -- I want to start calling it dubious thanked me. I love this new that -- OUK neuroscientist. Had apparently done some study -- and they are suggesting. That the brains of Apple. Are stimulated by Apple imagery in the same way that the -- of religious people are stimulated by religious imagery. That is awesome. It -- They are more about it look at the Apple people are not only are its scientists to tell me this I don't get an -- and I was gonna put a few stories back to back -- -- Mac people refuse to believe that -- -- -- Mac. And or. The neurological reaction to Apple. Stuff is the name and that -- like but that's him too easy. What let the -- is really that is that it suggests that the big tech brand has and other tech brands not only Apple but. Apple the most have managed to harness or exploit the brain areas that have evolved process religion they're literally. They've created. An actual church and Apple scientifically reproduce that -- man girl logical reaction. Similar to that have been extremely adamant that it's an evangelical -- in -- No -- communion at the Apple Store owners main -- the red. -- -- -- -- and Italian answer that -- I. Mailings and move under the let's think of ourselves now -- -- so to speak and get the happy ending. Your -- okay. That the Internet as one -- -- Slashdot posters that the Internet has finally gone too far. We shut it down. I can anyway here's the headline from fiddler dot com could be Internet -- the and of snow date. Rule. And some other experimenting ways for students to be left and online during bad weather. Potentially allowing classes to go line. Even during the worst blizzards. Which we actually probably need because of global climate change -- Israel and they know what I'm glad that online bullying of that -- to date established now -- is that you can get bullied. In the company -- not. Oh god I was. -- -- -- -- Actually kind of person preceded this. But -- question was if you can you can teach the kid at home. On a snow -- why -- you -- that. -- days at a five and we -- ever. Generator well made their -- they do talk about how district are required to be in session for a certain number of hours or days in -- students are required to be in schools in have a prominent -- behind it and metrics. So losing in teaching time to winter weather. Can mean disaster can does wreak havoc kind of on the rest of this into this can be how America gets back on top modeling to virtual school the virtual school -- -- -- -- more slacken off. You're gonna boot up that laptop and Skyping year teacher although it will I can't imagine that we're gonna get there until we alternate ubiquitous broadband that seems like a giant digital divide problem in -- make it they don't. Well I'm sorry my spam is actually keyboard have broadband Internet access. You fail. But the school -- 120 dollar minor -- notebooks there -- go ahead. Man now I can imagine no -- No -- -- in the world I catch I can't imagine they never experienced one growing up in California it. -- -- And I don't totally its manufactured -- sadness for the story. -- did it needing care at all a bigger thing is when the adults to less for snow days instead of -- relieved and yes. Did it in the trains are running the attic and you GO. -- let's let's get onto your calls and email Sally. Actually just your email analyst Donald -- that -- because he can relate. I can this is from Sharon -- saying in reference to the Colorado avoiding addicting games I also avoid and -- at all costs I loved the game but I know if I started Eminem oh and memo my children would star. The response the person -- called -- -- -- the -- restraint even start laying. Games like Angry Birds or World of Warcraft or -- in black -- because. Go to grab whole and you know that mr. Allison where have an -- -- -- I like unions by also have it like my brain is such -- maybe it's that religious senator in my brain somehow getting activated -- though but -- Careful can't pull a thoughtful -- like. Once they get started like I have to finish acted like complete -- much of the game is possible and just. I know when I don't when I'm bored with the game I have that kind of freedom and liberation of what I should go. -- -- -- -- -- into an interesting conundrum actually they think these games are acts they rely very specifically in factored. They're carefully calibrated to exploit the psychology of human addiction -- enough think -- all about. And we'll put the new game mechanic game mechanic is that just a fancy were a way to say the first industry -- I know that that's doubly. Dangerous about the browser based store. Social gaming is because there basically you think would be available that's what you need for a year. But now. Would be done done and we see which means people playing that were just say no gates who that they noted the crack is -- maybe do -- in Canada via. It took corrective effect and a lack. Moving on in the email bulk -- and Adam kindly responded to client. My rhetorical question an episode -- for anyone when -- asked what are downloading things anymore what are you even downloading. And both of them sent lists of essential software along with -- in tireless but they include. Things like flash obviously which we mentioned audacity. Drop box -- PDF writer iTunes. I didn't surprise when I think that most people and of downloading even if they're otherwise mainly in the cloud that's just from -- analyst and author include Skype. Adam pointed out. Games that Microsoft Office spot -- by. Synergy which is cool little. Utility that runs one keyboard to multiple men. Money more multiple monitors and things M anyway they had the president along with but I understand but -- that's gonna go. What's kind of thing about it if you kind of parse these lists is a lot of them are kind of almost like plug ins to access cloud based services like drop box and things like that now and flash even and other what other ones are. Kind of like. And -- document readers are things like you know PDF things that could also be done and editors if you are actually some dirty built into Google by authorities mean. Most I would say most if not all of these could somehow be replaced by. -- web based service -- you know not something like synergy. Not necessarily right now from the media players -- for downloaded media -- but a lot of them. Contents Leo in -- we in the flash -- Politically and it helps -- and Chrome downloaded it yeah here in Chrome here automatically getting flash -- -- And I mean you're downloading and installing it but it's not like you're launching flash you know like a much of the flash totally counter like you download a browser update -- but it's not -- The woman browsers I think in -- you can -- their help on them they don't already don't have it here let Timmy that would. Is you know when. Evernote created its recent them browser -- and you want like that was. A great thing like don't have to download that stupid. System tray app -- it's just yet and Evernote dot com and I think that's the trend -- -- I agree and then finally ray in Japan right and the thing and live in Tokyo and -- -- jangled inter they has talked about yesterday. It -- the -- -- -- a Mac -- -- time in a big just to local entered into Google to Tokyo -- entered into. And -- swore up and down everyone called it -- -- interred in theater on screen there anything the kind of why. But he says no it not a gold interred into the -- cloud of beer foam on top of the Asahi beer hall which is supposed to look like a glass of stout. And he linked to that Wikipedia page on it. If that but yet evade his where -- -- -- when -- Google Japan golden group account all of those little good luck charms me that yes they do that terms -- -- -- That is the golden group for the -- golden. -- legal -- actually not angled at those -- more like the pile right that's what it's more of the flinging. Yet know that I am more of us officer -- -- right and it isn't gonna be we just got the TDMA man isn't a highly -- that application and think of Donald and I are both the parents of small children we know that the -- to actively. All shapes and it's really an hourly occurrence of -- expect that. 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