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Ep. 1468: Bad Facebook! No biscuit for you!Facebook gets busted for actually hiring a PR agency to try to plant anti-Google stories in the press. Wow. What are you guys, like 14? Oh, wait. Kind of, yeah. In other rant bait, an FCC commissioner who blocked any conditions regulating the NBC/Comcast...
It is Thursday may twelfth 2011 mining season because I am writes all Hollywood club and a buzz out loud cnet's podcast of indeterminate length that is episode 14168. -- I -- I finally got my act together and finished my keynote presentation about late spring break the axis of the keynote is here. You -- you -- we are very excited we. We have few technical difficulties -- working on it like as we are doing the show the file is uploading as -- literally uploading your now. And it turns out that things just work on the Mac until they don't just work and then the moment that they don't just working don't know what the hell to do that though non transparent they -- out what how to -- That's my one complaint. -- it will always -- my complaint -- we thought it worked and then the computer when humans show -- my computers and -- that it -- that actually was not the Mac air I was probably answer. Weird. Saying a patent invalid a collection of things and it is possible. That. I've started the keynote at 930 in but -- shows how easy it is the need. On that alone. And it's just below it but you -- is -- tuned for that you guys have -- waiting for like three weeks for us. That's an -- and -- have delayed a little longer. Can we -- Indian news first yes you actually spend that most of you with into the show. And are watching the show and only -- -- noted that in fact -- visual presentation I didn't wear matte black turtleneck today inhabitants and. And tell -- that even Mike on his voice a little bit to separate fact -- you -- -- the Roanoke with keynote. -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- They do with the change. Or link in the chain seriously and I'll get up maybe don't -- Potomac montagne politics -- -- McCain councils and malaria at idle we do before we get to the keynote we have kind of cat fight to report. -- you know right. If you didn't think that FaceBook and Google didn't like each other you can tell they really don't like each other so it had recently been revealed. From the USA today. Is that somebody seemed to have hired Burson mark mark marsteller -- the top PR firms to -- anti Google stories newspapers. Urging them investigate claims that Google was invading people's privacy and so -- in the PR firm also even offered help and in one of -- -- influential blogger. -- write a I guess you'd call -- Google bashing the op Ed which promised it would place it in you know Friday ballots as well so panel working together. And it was put it was a whisper campaign -- not only by the super high profile PR agency but also by -- the NBC news anchor and total Apple and board Jim Goldman. And a former political columnist John Mercury Mercury -- who both recently joined -- So the USA today basically was getting all these pages they were getting a proposal for -- big op -- that we talk about Google's social circle feature. And what a massive privacy invader that is yes that's basically the feature that Google rolled out as as part of Gmail. That goes out and finds all your other social connections like Yelp and FaceBook and all those and kind of import that information. To make your social circle complete all -- -- facing directly to leave Google. However USA today when they investigated basically said there's no news here there's no there there to this story. And then as. They started to wonder why they were being pitched so hard to -- Is because they then it ended up breaking a story of outbursts and spreading a whisper campaign about Google and try to be out of the -- was. And -- client was. FaceBook. -- -- They look. Here -- -- PR firm. Just spread anti Google story that -- -- -- -- -- -- and other needs and here's some idea that so it was confronted with the evidence. And in a spokesman last night confirmed. Yes indeed FaceBook -- -- they cited two reasons first because they believe Google's doing some things and social networking. That raised privacy concerns that they they had to bring satellite. Because FaceBook presents Google's attempts to use Facebook's data in its own social networking service they wanted to bring with the light. Because they were trying to pulled it needed to treat that social graph right because what their -- because good. It did that that data that is yeah I -- that I put on FaceBook should be freely available to me across any service that I used. Doctor. Wilson attempt to scrape the web which -- -- like Google doesn't don't appear on I'm not gonna make it out like Google is the number one to die here right they're not all about your privacy because they're not that good at it. But the fact is. They -- is the one who has built in Encino walled garden who will not let anybody access that data and no matter what happened who try to -- it all up so that you never leave their little freaky suburb. And then they actually wouldn't let -- -- dollars and could look like that dog don't now. All right granted until late life at that -- stomach. The fact that they would just that I mean. If anything it shows that that they are. Just children. That this is just flat out childish and now they have been totally busted in the most -- As it's kind of well -- that there is leading the clumsy if smear ever -- Like you know what. Do your own dirty work you African babies if you wanna bash Google in the press -- do you're damn stuff you don't get -- hide behind them PR agency. And -- the NBC's Jim Goldman kidding me it's -- -- it's -- makes it look more ridiculous is -- I you masquerade as a journalist for that long. -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- Just embarrassing. It was his -- you we have. Privacy is such a huge issue we have to do this. -- FaceBook hired me to do -- I want you don't. Actually believe that more coming from Google. I would actually believe -- more of Google is like you know what it's really concerned that -- but doesn't care about your privacy and they're trying to lock up your data in a walled garden and that we hired a PR -- like. That at least would ring a little true or even though would be just as -- the and childish but for FaceBook to even to -- To pretend that what they're really worried about is your privacy is like the biggest load of hooey I think I've ever come across I -- smell that load of -- from -- You know the thing about this is I wonder I don't even know if the mainstream -- -- -- really pick up on this one. Because it's kind of little insight is a list for eighty -- If if the names are Apple -- Google you'd think you might hear -- about this I would hope that someone at least brings that you know you see this on a few mainstream outlets. Yeah this is horrible -- I Q well I mean that the USA today of they did publish an entire story about -- and I love the fact in fact I gotta say. Kudos to USA today for their reporting here because instead of just buying this BS -- line and -- and running not bed and has been like he had the story and we don't do our own reporting. Instead. They read a story that said. It's not that Google -- and privacy controversies to -- yet Burson marsteller a top public relations firm is attempting to pile more on. Except Apple and they've just completely busted them up for the whisper campaign and I have to say no way he waits the six. Byron -- Alito and John Schwartz. Points to be cute as burnout pollen from -- -- -- -- just this astonishing. Just children over at -- but just babies. Horrifying. That's -- in the last of -- rent abatement accidentally gets its gonna get better than we should keep the movement. They don't want to go also. And yet not so much yesterday we talked about Google's awesome Chrome books and -- subscription plans twenty dollars for education and -- -- dollars per. Enterprise also depending on the version when you get the Samsung laptop. Or -- three G version for the different models there's a certain Samsung. There are few different pricing is like a couple dollars more -- more depending -- -- -- but what they did reveal also in beta and outright say it in the keynote is that. -- subscription plan you will have to locked in -- to a three year contract in order to take advantage of this -- -- also limited number there's also a minimum amount of units you have to you to buy into this. There's ten. Ten units for business. On education there's nine but for the business sector at least if you want to use these laptops. In your. You know in your business then you will -- that -- get ten minimum there's also you know. The big thing at the time out as the up front cost the support. How much it takes -- support with software updates. They are covered by a warranty through Google as well that's kind of nice because if you lock in the subscription plan. You don't have to go directly to the -- the manufacture and go through all those loopholes they do say it will be easy to go through Google apologists want announced if you knew. -- I think that's very possible and it and I had the initial response that everybody did upon hearing three year contract which seemed insane considering the hardware aspect of it right like who would sign on for three years at the same hardware. Although. -- that they considered shorter contracts with higher monthly fees and found during market research the most into institutions. And I think we know this -- at the net but. Never and every company everywhere. Never upgraded their machines before three years anyway so they said that it they felt like it offered more sense to offer lower monthly rate and then a refresh cycle. That fit with what they found that enterprises and school do you. And you know to be honest it's probably good enough if they're using it for the intended purpose which is. Web terminals yeah basically. And then like you said that so the analysis is. Hopefully that enterprises and -- -- and a pain. Weigh less overtime. Because they don't have to apply their own patches and install their own updates clean -- -- old files. And then manage this fleet of machines. Who will handle all. Except interestingly Google -- Google apps -- other. If they want Google apps enterprise -- -- -- -- -- Internet -- -- -- fifty dollars or something cheap like that of I think they raised it but it's still not very much. -- I mean -- they engadget has kind of just an op Ed about how the they potentially have just changed the industry -- think there. I think it's gonna be hard to convince companies to take the -- but if you earth. Mall company need to here's a small little -- any that only needs you know -- -- stuff I think you're gonna be just fine and that. A fifty person company this would be a perfect thing for them I now and it -- the -- the right. Out from underneath. IBM and the the whole like the thinkpad marker Lenovo rather with the thinkpad paying in all anybody who provide sort of like desktops notebooks and enterprises got to be a little bit freaked out I don't know -- -- I. Don't think we're gonna jump on this right away but even if you look at what our editors require and need. -- out -- -- CNET TV but for our our copy editors write articles. This would work for them it is really possible in a totally work for them and now so -- Pretty it's interesting. Are -- skip this next story but and move in straight on to the next -- date a man. In our lineup today. This. You may have seen it all over Twitter yesterday and it would seem to -- like a little bit of inside baseball about politics and business but. -- -- -- which is that after approving. And -- buyout of Comcast Meredith at well baker one of the two Republican commissioners at the Federal Communications Commission. Has taken a job as a top lobbyist. Or Comcast. Remember that was that Comcast and NBC that merger that just recently happened Alan -- and a few prove that enough she's and then member land member and -- that them that anti democratic commissioners another -- -- arguing that that would be pretty like concerning -- -- income customers because of that. Potential lack of competition in the State Department the -- Owners would then control the content that's happened she was like -- no known on the hot enough and she objected to -- -- -- attempts to impose any conditions. On the deal. By arguing that the complex and significant transaction could bring exciting benefits to consumers that outweighed the potential harms. I know the exciting benefits when she got a job as a lobby is that here are a lot more money pretty -- Yet the benefit its -- of those things where you give them look like a little background and -- you get an ambassadorship. Like you know the buck on there whatever I. -- -- -- -- -- that -- that the eight per cent and the revolving door of sleazy news. To get and I -- -- -- I have actually heard Meredith ally of speaker or Meredith -- -- speak on many occasions and have been. Astonished I mean I literally had my mouth hanging open at. It -- the upped the anti consumer nature the way that she is just. A mouthpiece I was thinking to myself like here's this person on the FCC who is a mount p.s. For the idea that all consumers are pirates for the idea that you know. Music sharing has pressed the recording industry despite any hard evidence that mean -- know it up in arms and and and for the idea in fact that competition. Exist anywhere -- consumers don't need anything done. -- -- I thought I am content settings and I'm kind of glad that she's over Comcast and lobbying for them which is what that she was apparently doing doing in the first place while she was -- job -- commissioner on the FCC but how are they're not. Laws against -- like -- they're not conflict of interest -- I and you know that there's someone someone had a hand in the back of regret there's going in -- -- little hand puppet yeah but it's not I don't wanna say to be fair but this. This is actually I don't honestly come a practice but it does happen a lot were a lot of government staffers have ended up don't lean. To work for a high profile tech companies as lobbyists so that these companies for example Twitter FaceBook. They they need someone who understands. -- a had a -- and speak the language. When that when they have to go into talks about privacy. Or you know be coming to me like they hire these people who have been on the other side of the fence so they can gain their Intel had to maneuver and navigate the waters. I mean. That is totally understandable. -- -- those out as conflicted -- diet you know its case its extreme I think and it almost any case it is -- minutes it's the same kind of conflict of interest that NBC has wouldn't get -- -- -- Comcast has when it's talking about delivering its own content right like if you're the guy who ran the pipes. You cannot control content because you will be inevitably enticed do you want to downgrade other content in favor of -- That is a naturally occurring conflict of -- as is the fact that someone who. Serves to regulate communications policy. Should then not jumped immediately from that quote -- quote regulation linger for months right after I mean less than it's it it couldn't be more obviously like a reward. You know like cake thanks a lot for keep -- all those onerous conditions that would have protected consumers off our back yeah -- Here's a couple hundred grand a year to lobby for -- -- there ought to be. Pattern that is just appalling and it's so blatant as this shameful. Not surprisingly she does not work responded to phone calls and emails for comment neither did Jim Goldman for that other stories on -- friendly contest did. Respond and issued a statement and say that she's really great. She's really great Peter the -- says she cannot contact EST Steve for the rest of the but the presidential term. Although I would argue that the hefty -- though and not -- that the when I'm not an. That matters that much but yeah I mean viewpoint says maybe there regulators shouldn't ever be allowed to lobby for that factor. Or at least for a certain amount of time -- like. Google has at a non competition policy right you -- if you leave Google or -- fired from Google -- you are a laid off from Google you cannot go. If you're an executive. You can't go to a directly competing company for a certain amount of time. Apparently no such regulation exists for government. Officials officials but that would in fact -- to be. Healthful -- and a whole -- -- kind of non competing Claus while you're gone there is an employee. -- one of the companies who is suing right now because they felt that because you know Apple who have this deal in the back -- -- don't called cold caller employees -- and try to poach them from each other via. Employees who had found this out. Now one of them is suing them on behalf of the workers because they felt like it stifled their opportunity to make more money by not being able to get approached by another company or you know. Pitched brick and -- that makes sense to -- it definitely does know that the in a march speech and FCC merger process that she thought NBC Comcast merger took too long. But -- let me speeded up because I need my paycheck now. The free press president and CEO if -- statement saying this is just the latest though perhaps most blatant example of a so called public servant cashing in. At a company she is supposed to be regulating apparently this does happen -- -- That's crazy. There -- big hug next and Sierra I mama now and I can even it's hard to work up the total rage about this it's so freaking ridiculous it's sort of like why don't we try. -- -- When we come back and we're going to talk about AT&T attempt independence T-Mobile deal to the US that it. Bing is creepy. And market -- and of course. 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Not just thrust -- me. -- test the abilities that are out this door is continuing on it was a big week in Capitol Hill in Washington DC. Four tech companies AT&T -- -- Their T-Mobile deal to the US senate they defended a proposition their proposed acquisition. A T-Mobile USA before US senate committee this morning -- the combined company. Will deliver high speed wireless services -- 97% of Americans and provide consumer benefits. Such as fewer dropped calls. All you're all that's why they should merge now look at -- well you know if you're compelled -- pretty important. Although some senators did not appear to be buying it AT&T and T-Mobile US -- didn't find many friends at the hearing. According to our reported that that McCullough who was. In in attendance. And of course Sprint Nextel CEO Dan has the had some things to say including. The only remedy that can preserve competition and a vibrant wireless marketplaces for regulators to -- -- no. Senator Al Franken said I believe flat out he's been flat by the way we're trying to get him for the show we want to interview Alfred into the Kingsley keys and uninteresting because we're doing enough were smart enough. Down it -- to -- -- and political like. But if he's that I believe it's going to raise prices for American families and cost thousands of jobs. Although their content president of the communication workers of America said it would be good for US workers and should be expeditiously group I think I think it seemed. -- to pull out of this is a lot of people here at the hearing. On at least the senators that -- there they were on the side of the consumer and you know Herb Kohl who is also active in pushing for. -- now why are we still getting charged for every text message we send the Wisconsin Democrat he also suggested that the combination would create a duopoly. We have senator Patrick Leahy tight about how -- -- he's saying you know actors -- AT&T and -- will have large blocks of unused spectrum. And one of the speakers there. Says it's really AT&T'S fault because they haven't really used the spectrum to its -- you know they -- optimize and or invested in it yet little absolutely -- you'll actually see here. Who note we still think this thing is gonna go through hate them and we hate to say it and like we said -- in the consumer. Got to -- to hands sometimes. We can't even imagine you would get -- plays a lovely man about all baker on the FCC is some other like future shill for Perkins for corporations like it just. I don't have a ton of hope I think that my in most cases what these hearings are. It's an opportunity for people to processor rent and for the senders to posture and sort of -- -- -- was opposed to it but -- hefty -- they don't give a crap you know but at. I'm not super helpful however. It does suggest. That there will be may be more conditions. Then. There might otherwise have been considering that the congressional mood seems to be against it and also on the Justice Department -- It -- couple weeks ago we talked about they -- look at more information that could potentially extend this. Merger another year before it gets approved via by investigating and looking into it more with a -- who -- because wow. Yeah -- -- it seriously there's a lot to look at. Like -- -- that's -- happening over there. Or -- a write up today on the surprising reason that publishers are finally agreeing to let Apple. Basically put like that kinda nasty aware there's twelve new magazines on iPad -- -- finally letting. -- that -- specific iPad editions which they weren't doing before because they were worried that Apple would deny them the consumer data of subscriber data and affect a lot of experts in the field that do not let Apple handle your subscriptions where you because you'll never get with it and it's really valuable. But apparently it turns out. As often as not impacting 50%. Of cases. If -- if the publisher just asks the consumer for the personal information that they need like that name and address and an aids like demographic info. They give it to that. Eighty have a dialogue box up all -- sudden everyone's like I want to get to that yes yes yes yes and it. Right you have the smart people that read it and in the dumb people like -- -- pressed yes and it's always gonna be 5050 teens Marty's and dummies. And there were enough W -- of -- -- Mum mum 99 you don't -- into things like -- -- it but the you know the magazine publishers they got that they have enough. Data that the right okay we don't feel like Apple's gonna hide this from a so yeah I personally I'm glad that they're offering subscriptions on this. For me I'm I'm not the one that's gonna say yes take it but I'm glad that enough people. Said yes take my information so that allow the ability for subscriptions to be -- for the major magazines that I care about like. GQ -- I mean you know I'm torn on this because I'm not a big fan of device specific content and it already like we've seen just internally -- if you doctor video product manager. About how hard it is becoming. And our product and our other product managers about how hard it's becoming to figure out how to update all of the different. -- -- -- -- -- -- -- I nightmare like device specific content is a night ultimately. Horrible news for publishers need to implement the -- been looking for -- rich topic. Because it's so hard to update and maintain and eventually might not be able to help yourself from creating a bad experience -- willing to literally invest in teams of employees. That handle each different platform and who can afford that. Although. I am pretty for government -- many things. And although. You happen -- iPad which also has access. -- the content you know like what you have the device where the content is available on you kinda don't care as much. Not that make your argument is right we don't wanna for pigment environment where we only to get specific continents as of devices -- at this time when you have the device chemical -- -- And -- -- but I -- at -- now though I mean that I feel like if the web experience were better mean the fact is like Apple has created and an appetite for device specific content partly by crippling their web experience. On its -- -- now. I mean that the -- that suffered a civil five really -- -- yeah. And I would rally -- -- -- money and and you pretty thin as a million times like I would much rather see developers and publishers stick to their guns make its team alma five versions of everything. That work across devices then getting sucked into this game cannot tell ya it's gonna bite them in the -- that night image is gonna bite me it's gonna by publishers. Olds who eventually be -- all crap we didn't update I -- had happened in conflict. Are right you -- -- near Intel because there's a new device every day. It is no surprise for developers to be angry at Apple however her head. This latest guy. Is is. Extra angry and is making some some interesting points about Apple's rejection of his. -- I've been at downs co-founder Dennis Moore and their they built the product the -- flow reader Rican purchase. They have decided he's try to go on the record with their own David Carnoy with a rant not even a rants. -- -- call in basketball a forty point barrage in so. Because of apps Apple's changing of the in app purchasing model where they are taking need not only are they taking a 30% cut of that but if you sell. A book and make it available let's say on your website. You have to make it available on your app. Act the same price. While Apple still takes a 30% cut -- you remember us talking about that -- assembled for yet. And so with this new model that they are planning to enforce in June 30. The developers -- -- -- reader. And this and the us and -- -- counsel -- as more and they decided to shut down but they they didn't go down quietly he left with a few few parting words so. For example the question that's would you guys -- guy you'd go out the -- He said we're basically pissed off. You know we went on this Apple -- led by all the Apple PR talked about being a developer making money we go on this platform expecting the game to -- -- OK Apple want to sell books fine. But then they go and change the rules so nobody but Apple can make a profit on a particular category I mean this stuff is unprecedented. For all the practical purposes you should have a -- at. Total total -- a totalitarian. Country here and I think Apple alternately -- from the strategy let's face it. In the short term Apple needs to make more money more revenue or stockholders they're doing sales at 300 million a day but they've got to make that 400 million -- 500 million and so one. It's really interesting and he he just he said they couldn't have continued with an Android app because they had put all of their eggs into the IOS -- basket. And that it was costing 30000 dollars a month I mean these apps are in fact big deal -- somebody who runs -- a consultancy like a company that will build a custom map for -- and he said they can range from. A 100000 to a million dollars is to make a really good app in threes that -- -- -- this operation on my own pocket. -- cost me thirty grand a month and we were. Working people -- working for equity for a chance to get on getting in on what they thought was a home run and then these rules change and had to scrap the whole thing. And they literally could not continue even to go on and start over -- -- -- -- maps. That much money and of and he also go on -- talk about how. They tried so many times the contact Apple like how can we work with in these terms to still have a viable business model and Apple continue to respond with. Generic things like those -- to check out the terms. -- referred to article eleven point thirteen to see more information out they didn't work with a company. And what's frustrating for some these smaller developers -- they don't have the backstage. The clinical backstage -- that someone like Amazon does frank who can work with Apple closely and Apple kind of let them slide a little -- and you know this happens for the large companies -- he's a bigger deals. Well because this guy's saying you know they asked him who. Can -- do that David and I asked him in the -- way. Can Amazon live with these rules to Apple making -- to present the film we have wondered about that we asked ourselves what would Amazon be able to -- to remain on the -- Platform and of anything is gonna make -- change it would be like Amazon pulling out right he says in fact I don't see how Amazon. It's gonna be able to live with these rules I don't think Amazon's willing to give Apple all its customer information. And of course the -- that we talked about. The it's it's. They're they're angry and rightfully so and I doubt that -- the last time. This is it's an interesting read was June 30 comes around I think we're gonna see a few more app stores potentially drop out because this. Yeah I suspect we will then and I wonder ID wonder what Amazon is ultimately -- To these terms are pretty unacceptable and will I -- as they get a big hug handshake wink wink then. Don't be the same and and they get a bunch of -- opt in but does and make sure that every subscriber gives them the data just like they're giving the publishers then maybe they won't get the -- Who analysis. Interestingly though the -- that they'll. The -- unexpected source that isn't giving Apple -- -- I get. Is an. The music and three. You believe that for a little bit more on music label -- and so beat up lately because Amazon -- plans killed as these that I know that the iTunes killed as people are now -- -- That Apple wants to make a deal with us when they do their cloud service and did their noble and Amazon and Google and is gonna get out as yet. -- we -- yes we know about the Android market they just announced their music heard their music beta service but you guys can -- invitational and there's also Amazon's. But the music labels are a little worried because. If consumers really do. Attach themselves to these services. And don't really have a revenue making way and they're hoping that now -- -- hoping that Apple iTunes. Who at the moment dominates the downloadable digital music space. Can save them to kind of force them and force these other music services to go and agreements with them and make money off of what they're doing. One that is. I think what they're hoping is that Apple will want to make those agreements to that Amazon and Google that it without getting without licensing the music from the four major labels so there are some features that they're not gonna be able are likely see me downloading exactly knows how -- the write up about you can't -- download at least that Google's service. The music they store the cloud. To your back to like another computer exactly like the only way you'd be able to do that is that the music -- on -- although let's be clear. Even though they sell any -- let me back up. Apple may want to cut those deals with the music industry because then that even though they're coming late in the game with -- sharing service in the -- -- service. They might have more features that you might be able do more with the music and then the labels are saying okay. This one time does this one last time again we're getting -- -- with Apple because we want that we want consumers to music service that we have more control over. Although. All signs point to the fact that the labels have been unwilling to make those deals in the first place it got -- and allow re downloading like. -- -- -- Fullerton fooling ourselves that we think that they're gonna give Apple. Any extras if we -- really want -- we pay for it -- -- little that we'd buyers on for dining and Fenton and -- November 20 -- I get to the environment. Or you know we buy we give them ten dollars a month so that we can do whatever we ball with our music -- that was already hours right. -- -- -- -- -- Big hug labels. -- mad today so you did your -- -- illustrated the keynote. Well I think that I wanna do that a link on board now I feel I feel happy -- system -- -- -- -- I can. I'm tired of matter age does this incident is -- -- of this is -- -- guys sometimes it's all about baby steps being continues to capture. More searches in the search market being eked out. 141 point fourteen point 1% of all searches in the US now if you look at that. That's only in this little -- down there it's only a point two percentage point change. Fine but they they've been doing this consistently. Man of the same time Google sites have been losing about that same market share yet. So they're taking it directly from Google don't think they -- militants are no worry about -- a lot like elaborate you know point 2% you might like how -- that's not -- but even like a one or 2% shift in the search market. It that's a big deal for their pockets. And I'll play never want to see that right in Iran its -- slow and steady to annoying yeah very instinct. A new study eight a new survey conducted by it Ericsson. Has found that 35%. Of Android and iPhone users -- -- owners owners in the US use mobile apps. Before they even get out of bed in the morning. Well -- And I mean they average rate Atlanta you know that a failed or -- year old ever grabbed the the film studios face black and man takes -- -- -- take -- out that are also. -- 22% check -- -- in the morning and another 20%. Do their last checked in before going to bed before going to sleep at night. -- amendment. And I do that you -- also said the time of day when smart phone usage is the -- Is during dinner but when he 6% of users -- During dinner I'm just at depends if you -- -- -- I -- -- what do you do it outright combines an independent of the beds and -- the -- but out I I totally. I have been at dinner only girl my credit and college girlfriend and we literally like we talked for an hour and a half or whatever and then we all that kind of like you know when every seven minutes there's a lull in conversation in -- -- whatever like after a few of those. You -- the all the phones from -- simultaneously -- -- and we agreed upon make it but once the patent once there's a once -- that entitled lol. And one person all it takes is now one person a bust -- the phone and every one busts out the phone. Nine it's like. A we're -- paying an album we're not talking to -- Even a Mori moto -- canonize print on the island to most -- -- Central Command the stupid. Stupid push notifications you. -- -- -- -- Valid ballot it is important now I don't even ban on certain -- you -- well I do have the little LED -- fires though I see that the latest clicking reader blue eyed like I knew it out exactly. And then finally the sad sad tale all. Little Mark Zuckerberg. There's not only one Mark Zuckerberg in the world in fact there's another lion. A 48 year old attorney bankruptcy attorney. Who is quite popular on the Google searches in 2004. But either existing copies of the incumbent on the do you and is -- community who had like a FaceBook profile. But -- -- -- the activated. He's tried so many ways to show that I'm I -- Mark Zuckerberg he submitted. A driver's license a birth certificate and is -- an Apple is bars cities and -- just self FaceBook would believe that. The mark as Zuckerberg. Is different from mark. I created a web site I am Mark Zuckerberg dot com which frankly -- expected to be -- over any day now yeah yeah I eighty might be allowed to sell it. They might buy it from him -- the best part about this is like -- -- -- wanna say the best but it is funny to -- it is that his office. It's dozens of phone calls by disgruntled FaceBook users. Demanding tech support -- but it doesn't even get bad because you can have a FaceBook profile -- people calling via fix their FaceBook problems a month ago. -- that is heartbreaking. Hopefully by bringing attention to this important issue we can get him like a lot more business panel although I don't think -- government if the patent thing about also has business -- his business suffered because he had the same name -- -- magic he's probably nodding on the first page of hits on how many you know. Just keep adds Google and there's no chance he's on the same -- of it there's no chance. Although it is Google though they are to be huge bite -- of Google is in at all being addictive. Then we will now because he'll be on Thursday the only reason he's on the first page of -- right now is because of -- story -- -- -- only but it's only it's like -- down but. Otherwise. Me and let the taverns and crazy and the idea that was part I -- gave his birth certificate that FaceBook about people I. And you're never again and Kelly throw peony birth -- questions on all of the layers of real people aren't there report here a lot. And it lets and finally at long last. To the -- it says. -- -- -- It's not a news story as well you've all been waiting for seven if you have been waiting for -- nine -- maybe at all but my -- them I'm Molly. You have some division I can do you. -- -- buying until they are written on my eyes dreaming case saying. -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- So we have to have the video that we're gonna love you might have to speak a little faster than you know because it's on adapting they don't have you -- to despite getting to that -- -- Yes -- -- -- the background here in case you didn't you -- that episode is that you know I -- a kind of maybe got a Mac can make an enemy like -- and then not only -- I like it but actually -- the keynote app purchase keynote purchased keynote -- listening to mean in a pre -- meeting -- -- that went crazy -- to -- we had every -- -- on the shelf. And you like you're gonna love to see how easy it is easily got it -- to make a presentation and I agreed to make a presentation about my spring break and it. So I dead and then exported as -- quicktime movie although weirdly it would not export the movie with the music intact that we have to live in separately and I can't -- them because -- that -- Because no no we don't have a we don't have a link to directly connect their laptop in the studio right now though we had -- YouTube -- wasn't the easiest thing ever redundant with pain. Anyway here we go. My feeling great that you all Epson doesn't have music yeah I Astaro detractors and then we'll go into the dramatic. Yeah okay so I'll tell -- I'll try to marry quickly is the music laughed at -- Alaska. And only and Steve -- of an awesome Alaska. And you agree that the elite. There is. Though Alaska -- who's passed -- display of the reason is that it's totally gorgeous that we had we had signed an of these being hand loudly and proudly -- of the third moderate tactic they give -- -- Life jackets for -- -- kids don't look like us -- -- there's an otter. And the glass and water with a glossy area then we thought or felt like god molecular whales right there and resurrection bay whose phenomenal all my photos look like a coffee table book -- so crazy and then also there were dolls porpoises. And Eagles and as -- cave and a glacier and ice -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- That was actually better that it's. -- Man that you see those transitions. Those are amazing I have exhausted. Okay so. What server -- okay you've used PowerPoint you use keynote now for twenty minutes today alone ball what's your verdict. Ha island -- anymore. -- -- really easy you can say now and you can drag and drop and suddenly you get your likes. Well on linked image editing and photo and video editing in PowerPoint like don't get me run. One cost twenty dollars and one car -- cost him anything like -- ten dollars one conflict 150 dollars. But for -- 150 dollars they are going to you all you guys you guys chat -- -- channel -- not optimizing keynote to its -- a few but that's it. That's -- Had a well diet Q I'm only agreed to do a five slated to keynote presentation time -- -- live on a one minute timer and -- ole U lead. -- -- -- do that link to any minute. I mean keynote really nice but then when we tried exported to a movie like it had that in their as a soundtrack I deny it separated -- -- -- -- couldn't ally like the thing. -- is that was just a slice anyway imply it was pretty fun -- ever ever gonna have you know what about this people watching listening. Tell us why do you think what do you think you like -- battery like PowerPoint better and why is it better and make diligent. Don't say anything stupid like casinos transitions. I'm -- doesn't -- -- -- Apple transitions it Sperry lake at school but it did it not that intuitive to figure out how to build I was with them in years -- though you know sinister emails next week may be in response. I'll put together my own put into account -- -- well if I had gotten to go through it to an enormous it exactly I think you would've been more impressive to the transit and we're literally. You -- like you know indeed ease into it speak clearly you know. With. Solid red line. Because we Harley owning our audience and a perfectly -- -- that there are my pictures they configure. Okay hey you promised in the -- -- -- -- -- the the what you guys gotta say -- -- -- -- -- -- -- It. Looked like -- -- again. I let -- here let's just do our first call. Yes. I have -- it's true I haven't put on the best eighth this week and I got a thing. In fact there are covering our scholars really frankly think that I -- again. Against Joe the deaf school IT guy and the contrast -- -- -- you a couple of clips that may illustrate my point. I guarantee. That the keynote presentation will look her on Friday we kinda like viewing yesterday certainly -- the we're gonna and the keynote on Friday. But we don't actually have a show on any -- I just went after learning river at the top flies in the -- math classes on the go and and a -- and found that while we talked I don't promise I'm not gonna start playing -- the -- And I'll -- -- EU all known it and bad entries are the levels one through five. I wasn't -- with -- I thought there was anger Ebert. -- -- And -- and write in Molly -- That mattered. -- well edited way to do it way to do it I'm not an I -- David deliberately Brad the what can you expect and not need a light -- -- -- -- A legitimate to fully formed people living inside me so what does one thing but the others -- and other -- I can't help it fully formed. Through mostly Lieberthal. -- John Strickland. All. He's been have you ever considered becoming -- regulator. Low cool I did I didn't realize that out of line to myself that we're Angry Birds -- -- because of -- million and sign your red knots or plain. I don't think it's because typically you're doing a live show in. Reading the stories and money to chat room and then engaging in conversations feminine at the very essence of T pain you know -- you've got a lot of brain. Got a whole lot of brain. Daybreak and above that cnet.com and -- -- -- -- -- do not. Because it could get them -- avid trying to go through all my -- that can be linked to my peers and log in Europeans and address. And change passwords and security questions at the bit bucket -- a that they won't let you change your security question and answer. I'm terrible with security measure that now my security answers have been hacked from the all of my accounts or risk and I have to pass through than answers but FaceBook while you update the answer that -- but no bit it. -- name. And basically it'll bid that the ozone layer it. You know -- and you'd. In the morning good morning buzzards I know you guys couple weeks you'll explain how Chrome OS was going to be the even better Google TV -- box. Ellis from Samsung if it has HDMI out and it's cheap you have a full Chrome PC that you can hook up your TV why. What are cavity Cali that's -- pleaded I think you that he was an avid tennis told -- the use for Croats and out to be on. In a specific part where remember that -- really understands this stuff maybe he -- there. It I will say though that -- everything about Mac mini. And the nominee is actually I -- one person I know one Brittany and the Mac mini in Athens. You -- media -- -- -- the future we're. -- gadgets a special Thursday edition. You know it's not it is even hit the track don't mess with -- And I learn. -- You know Simon close doesn't like people they actually -- coming oh yes and meanwhile is here okay here we go computer to love it's the phone comes -- -- -- name. I'm fourteen and the only exert in my school and neighborhood it's hard to grow and open people -- have most things that come with our. I hate to -- tech journalists and bloggers from Twitter well I wanna be a tech journalists when I grow up but there's still far from -- -- the future. What I'm really concerned about -- the president more precisely. An upcoming formal in three weeks there's this girl that -- been -- for a year now but things. I haven't got no there. -- makes me laugh which is a rare thing in. I feel good about myself so I wanna ask -- out but I don't know whether I should or how to. Any advice on the go roller how to grow up being a nerd. -- -- fourteen previously instantly video game that night unavoidably add -- allow -- kids drugs so it's faster now. -- my man. So I -- assign -- -- out anyone out ever again because every time they do they get smacked down yet that's right. That's right. You know like 'cause it's hard being a guy in its -- -- -- You're only fourteen you're gonna grow from this ask her out. If you get heart broken and it's my fault you'll thank me later. Trust me than you NASA -- out. And he's gonna say yes. And -- can be a whole. I mean you know our eyes and an excellent idea think it's important and actually in the morning for everyone -- I think if you like the issue should ask you -- I think everybody does mean that. Just say doing -- the -- and there and no goal and Intuit. Every time we do this stuff got to be prepared for the very high possibility. They won't get what you want but doesn't mean you gonna look net. If she says no you walk turn your back and say. You later our ranks are right -- maintenance Yuma -- better and exactly but that. Astra. It as to how. Just don't make a big deal out of it. Give any you know what -- get that built up an awkward. You just gotta be like literally when you're not entirely resident it's hard when I was fourteen and I had to ask -- to hang out I was like. Peeing myself it's hard it is hard but I'm just saying they don't don't like read a computer program to do -- don't bring your flowers don't be nice. All over -- -- about it. To be cool about it like your talking to were already it's making me laugh or whatever this is like -- -- not have formal opening. But. The practice that played out over and over hey you -- charter. You have a seat that you don't do that known and 00 or you can do it -- way I was just gonna save that there's what going to the -- on Friday night you should come with me. Claims that the game play -- I -- I thought the game it was like I am already do and it. Become if you want you. -- that's that's how I asked most of my 2000 and hasn't worked out very well known and that it you know I exist emanated a smear of green it made -- really -- What that they were -- -- -- that it was like announcing I'm having dinner at this -- you should join me in a girl wants a really wanted you can't you know. The -- -- today -- don't really get your not gonna be able to do that whole company's -- they gotta be equally still has got to be like. -- -- -- -- Just like that like don't. Don't make me feel they are having a conversation like. Click that they'll like Ehrlich and -- not -- -- plan will now have myself. We not a -- be filled and it over an hour when Elijah ami of my moral comment I'm going against the U what you want you -- It's not -- -- Worth it doesn't work hours at a price you like it's -- you can look. Know -- hard. On -- not gonna literally. We're here for -- And we're gonna area are better at airline bomber there might also about two years ago my about -- year -- to my friend got married now with the grooms men in their wedding. And then he moved back in December from the northeast to the south for his job and she moved down about a month later because shipments of school. Things have not gotten wealth it. He cheated on her in that month he was down their loans don't know and then has been verbally abusive towards -- currently threatening to divorce -- kicker -- -- her own. Since she doesn't have a job -- he tries to control the money in complained about her spending money -- -- -- -- -- -- 500 -- at -- computer -- the -- had -- -- worked in computer. -- asking me what she should do and I don't feel comfortable giving her advice either way because I don't wanna leave him as a friend. Broke code I was friends with him -- love the show. Michael -- one. What about this idea not want to lose out of ten different. The -- sounds like a jerk that he felt like -- -- And I'm kind of thinking you might -- -- -- -- island I would -- I got up -- I was accents seem that if he cares about this but also less that he might actually have feelings for because he sees how crappy here -- home voice treating her death. This is no friend to you or her so we need amana -- -- like Amy. Get out of there. And I'm right here if you're really if you're really her friend and you really of their friends just -- -- yeah. I don't care who your front of the first went -- Predict the Canon yet on radically -- loudly and clearly think that he is not treating her and -- sound like he's not. And he -- a Michael I've got a move for you. All you -- -- my at all maybe if we can say well but added we can tell you like her and it's okay continues Halperin. Be different. The current. And then Jupiter -- its computer of course and involve computers but I'd you know let lineup now we are told we are eminently qualified evolved and the religious equivalent. Probably have no idea we just -- old we have to -- -- -- and will be back next week with -- we will not see tomorrow's that this is our Friday show. But but I don't know yet of the blog be -- -- cnet.com to it respond with your advice. If you wanted to call us up and let us know what you think about them winter when we asked them about. I don't know anything anything we -- about today keynote pre PowerPoint that's only magazine covers the power -- We're gonna go raid I don't whether there should be like an anti compete other prevents FCC commissioners from going over to private industry less than a few months before they -- the most ridiculous -- of all time when and a -- Olympics do you think create Adler and amber. And -- that cnet.com. I knew Monday so you -- is by buying.