Ep. 1413: Where we're not one to bragToday we're talking verbal tee-ups, putting your best possible self online, the importance of using proper punctuation, and the Internet proves that parenting is super boring.
-What's up everyone? It's Friday, January 24th, 2014. This is the 404 Show. I'm Jeff Bakalar. -I'm Justin Yu. -I'm Ariel NuÃ±ez. -Welcome to The 404 Show. It's Friday, time to get nasty. -Yeah. Although, I'm a little upset this morning. Can I vent to you guys for a little bit? -Of course, when are you not upset though? You should come to me. -What it is so good for if not for me to vent about social media? -What's wrong little guy? -I mean, you guys know this, as well as I do. Anyone who's on Facebook knows this, as well as I do. But there are like certain problems that come up in life that Facebook only exacerbates and this is one of them. So I was kind of, sort of, unprepared to talk about today's stories because I was talking to a friend all morning, and-- -On Facebook? -No, no. This was over GChat. But she was really, really upset. And, you know, I talked to her early in the morning-- -It's like a friend from high school-- -Oh, I'm sorry. This is-- no, this is a friend that I continued to keep in touch with. We met each other in college but-- -Cool. -we've been closed every since, right? -This is a woman. -This is a woman, yeah. And she recently found out that one of her ex-boyfriends, who she broke up within the last year or so is expecting a baby. -Okay. Well, he's not. -And, he's not-- well, he is. He's-- him and his wife or him and his girlfriend, I'm sorry-- -It's is baby. -are expecting a baby, his new girlfriend. -Right. -And, you know, when she told me this, I was like, "you know, that's such a bummer" but how do you know this? I know that she hasn't keep in touch with this guy anymore, so I asked her, you know-- -So why she upset? -Hold on, hold on. So I was like, "how do you know this?" and she was like, "well, you know, I know this because of Facebook." I was like, "will, you dummy like-- why do you still follow him on Facebook?" -Right. -If you don't wanna know these things. It's one of those things were, you know, you really should unfollow your ex. You should de-friend this guy on Facebook. -Right. -And she's like, "Well, I'm not friends with him on Facebook anymore." Like, okay, well then, how do you know this? -And she's actively stalking him. -No, not even. This is the hard part, is that apparently, one of her friends sent her a text message this morning and this person said, "hey, I hate to be the one that tell you this but I saw on Facebook today that your ex-boyfriend blah-blah-blah-- -And so her friend sucks. -posted this on Facebook. -Yeah, her friend sucks. -Yeah, exactly. -Just bad friends. -And so to me this is really frustrating because it's basically friendly fire, right? And I don't see the reason why-- -Well, that's not friendly fire like the friend should have had the good sort of like-- -That's what I'm saying. -intentions to not disclose this. -Exactly. That's-- -Why would you do that? -why I'm saying friendly fire. I don't understand why this guy had to be like announcing this gossip essentially to my friend. -How long ago did they break up? -They broke up less than a year ago. -So he got busy pretty quick. -Yeah. -Or potentially during their relationship. -I think that was the case was and which is sort of what led to the messy breakup. -Right. -But, you know, the fact that he needs to buffer it with, "hey, I hate to be the one to break this to you" or "I hate to be the one that tell you this" sorted to me seems like he wanted the satisfaction of breaking the news to her but for no other reason aside from hurting her feelings. That's not what friends do, right? -Well, it's not a friend. -I mean, first of all, it's-- -Like who are these people. -Well, it's okay that-- at first I was upset because I was like, "Why is this guy friends with your ex-boyfriend on Facebook still? It's not like they really hang out that much, so-- -How long were they going out? -A couple of years. -So that, you know-- -But the friends never became-- this friend never became really good friends with her ex-boyfriend. -When you're with someone for a couple of years and your friends become friends and they like overlapped and the intertwined. There's gonna be like residuals. You're gonna have lingering friendships. -Yeah. -Like, I unfriends with people who I met through now broken-up couples. -Of course. -So, you know, it's a delicate web we weave. -Well, I can't get mad at him for remaining friends with her ex-boyfriend on Facebook. -No. But don't be-- -But I can't-- yeah. -I hate to be the one to tell you. Odds are she's gonna found out. -Yeah. Don't the loudspeaker. Right. She wouldn't have found out and it's none of her business. It's none of your business. You don't have to be that guy. -You know, but people love the gossip man. -I know. But Facebook makes it so much easier to do that. -What are you gonna do? -I don't know. So-- -You gotta get thicker skin in the digital world. -I guess so. It just goes to show that you can't really avoid these things even if you do de-friend somebody on Facebook. -Right. It was funny I was listening to a podcast yesterday and they were talking about how like standup comedians used to be so much more vulgar and would take more chances -Uh-hmm. -But now, every single person is like recording and tweeting everything everyone Goddamn says. -Right. -They pulled back, and they pulled back and it sort of like a similar concept where, you know, you're just like, "Man, everything-- you know, everything can come back to me now." -Yeah. -In a much easier fashion. -Well, this-- -It's the same sort of thing. -there's also this trend of standup comedians sort of apologizing for their jokes after the fact. And these are standup comedians that are traditionally really just vulgar. -Vulgar. -Yeah. I remember-- what's his name? Jeff Ross, right? The standup comedian-- -The Ross guy. -The Ross-- -Yeah. -He made an Aurora-shooting joke totally tasteless. -But in his will-- -In his-- exactly. That's completely his-- -I don't really think a comedian should ever really have to apologize. -Right. But Dave Chappelle has done that recently. -Yeah. -A lot of guys have done it for some reason and I agree with this. -But we live in like this apologetic culture where like everyone is just, I mean, you know, I don't know. Words are just words right? -Yeah. -Like everyone-- and I don't know where this came from, where like everyone has to be sown to like things they say to the point we're like, I get it. You're responsible for the things you say but-- -Right. -I feel like some people are put into situations where they don't need to apologize. And I think it all started or at least, we started talking about it after the onions said that thing about the girl and called-- -Oh, I should be-- -I see you next Tuesday. Remember that? -Right, right. It was like a 12-year-old girl. -I think she was eight. -Oh, really? -Yeah. And it was hilarious. But you knew where it was coming from. -Right. -And that was okay. -Yeah. -I don't know. -It's a problem because there's a deposition of everything that you do online. -I'm worried it's old archive forever. -Yeah. -But, you know, we do live in like, I mean like Twitter. All Twitter has done is like made us like way more cognizant of what we say. -Uh-hmm. -And more responsible for what we say and, you know, we-- it's like-- it's a platform to complain and it's also like a platform for people to, you know, become like these apologetic drones and it's-- -Right. -upsetting. But that's evolution man. It's human evolution. -Yeah. I think like another thing that people do on social media is they use phrases like, what I was saying earlier, you know, "Hey, I hate to be the one to tell you this" or "I hate to be the bearer of bad news." It's these qualifiers that people say right before a statement that they-- -You have a fascination with like quips. -Yeah. I mean, I just think that social media has completely changed the landscape of linguistics and how we use language online especially. -Definitely. -That sort of lead into our first story and that's what I wanted to talk about. You know, I think the number one rule for social media is don't post anything online that you wouldn't say to the person in real life and that's something like, you know, it sounds like some first grade lesson B.S. But that's really the lesson you should sort of live by. -Yeah, but it's also like comforting to know you can like tell someone off who is 2,500 miles away. -Oh, if it's anonymous absolutely. -Right, yeah. I mean like, we're not saying don't do that. -Right. -So you're saying like the, "Hey, no offense but"-- -Right. -stuff like that. -There are certain phrases that are growing in popularity. And according to this article-- -And they're being abbreviated. -Yeah. -And linguists are worried that it may be a result of the web and they call them verbal tee-ups. -They're worried. -They're worried that it's becoming worst. -All right. -And it's true because these are pretty terrible phrases to start a sentence with like, I don't-- I'm not racist but-- -I mean, come on. -blah-blah-blah. -That's like an infamous sort of, you know, set up for something you're gonna say that's about to be racist. -Right, exactly. -Or like, "No offense but I'm gonna offend you right now." -Yeah, yeah. -I like the ones that come afterward too, like the ones that comes to mind immediately is, I'm just saying. -Yeah. -And that's like-- -Oh, that's-- oh, everyone uses that. -Yeah. -A lot of people are doing like the, "Oh, you know what I hate? Oh, my God. You know what I freaking despise, the sorry not sorry thing?" -The sorry, not sorry hashtag? -Oh, my God. Everyone should just get a broken leg every time I use it. -Long hair don't care. -I've never heard that, long hair don't care? -Yeah. -Anyway it's disingenuous to me 'cause it sort of self-serving, right? Like you wanna say something that's terrible but you also don't wanna be held accountable for. -Right. And you think by like saying these qualifiers, you somehow negate any like offensive stuff that just rumbled out of your mouth. -Right. So, according to this Wall Street Journal article, they went out and they interviewed a lot of linguists. They sort of blame social media because they say that there's this epidemic of people taking a passive-aggressive stance on social media. They sort of avoid taking definitive positions on what they wanna say online because they're afraid of being held accountable for. -Okay. -They're afraid to assert these opinions about themselves and make the conversation really political. -Right. -When they don't feel like it should be that serious because it's a platform for friends. You know, you're never gonna hear something that you say get completely argued with because essentially these are all people that will agree with you. -Right. -And so they'll say things like, "I mean, this is the best way possible but I hate Obama", you know, and then everybody will sort of just agree with that and like it. No one will ever come out and say, "well, what you-- can you like expand on that a little bit?" -Yeah. I'm guilty of doing one thing that I don't know if it falls into this. -Yeah. -Like I don't say a lot of this crap. I don't say like not for nothing. I feel like-- it's just like, it's just fluff. It just like speak that doesn't need to be spoken. -Right. -But I do say I'm not gonna lie a lot. -Did you say that a lot? -Really? Like I'm not gonna lie. You're a jerk. -But it does make you sound like a liar when you say that. It is sort of gives the exact opposite effect. -And be like, "look, I'm not gonna lie. I don't like that guy, he's ugly." You know-- -Yeah, like I mean, this in the best way possible but that jacket, it makes you look like a Zoolander. -You know what I say a lot also? I say like, "I don't care" or I'll be like, "What the-- I don't remember what I say. Oh, I'll be like, "I don't care who thinks this but-- -Yeah. -What is the-- -Oh, wait what? -It's like one of those clichÃ©s. You're like, "look, I don't care what anyone thinks-- yeah. I don't care what anyone thinks." -Uh-hmm. -I like to wear my undergrounds on the outside, you know, something like that. -Yeah, yeah. -You know-- -I like that, "I'm not one to brag." -I'm not one to brag. -But this show is sick. -Right. Exactly. Or, I hear what you're saying. -Yeah. -You know the worst culprit is, "that being said" -Right. -You smug-- -It's really easy way to make yourself sound smart. -Right? -Just be careful what you say. -Like all that means is just like, "You've not spoken and what I'm about to say trumps with you just-- -Right, right. -is what that being said means, right? Assholes. -We probably said all of those things. -All the time. -Yeah. It's fine. -It's human vernacular. -Uh-hmm. -Right? -You know, we're slaves to these clichÃ©s. -Yeah. But let's talk about more stuff that people say online. -All right. I wanna-- I'm curious-- -This one is confusing to me so I'm gonna you to explain the story. -So which one are we talking about? -This VICE article. -Okay. -Really confused about what this is all about. -So Clive Martin from VICE wrote this article, it's called, The Sad World of Adults Pretending to be Kids for Retweets. -Okay. -Okay? It's sort of-- it's not a misleading headline but it doesn't exactly mean what it implies. But I'll give this guy the benefit of the doubt and we'll talk sort of in the ballpark of what he's referring to. -Uh-huh. -So the post leads with the tweet from Danny Wallace. Do you know who Danny Wallace is? -Nope. -Neither do I but he seems to be quite popular. He tweeted out on January 20th, "My son heard the phrase "booby trap" the other day. Later he picked up by wife's bra and said, is this a booby trap? Kind of, yeah." Okay. So the author here is calling Danny Wallace out because Danny Wallace made that up. He made it up because he's a humorist. He made it up because he is a writer and he writes jokes, he writes articles, he writes books and that's what he does. But what Clive Martin is upset about is that like, he's not being-- he's being disingenuous and like, his kid didn't really say that. So, therefore, he's not allowed to write that. -Okay. -Okay? So last night I tweeted him. He didn't write me back but I said, dude, what's the difference between Danny Wallace and any other comedian who make shit up-- -Right. -To just to be funny? -Right. -Which a lot of people do on Twitter, like why do you have such a problem with that? And he just sort of gets upset that Twitter's become like a platform for people to boast their own popularity and, you know, there was a piece about a guy who like filled in his like pre-school kid's, you know, form for something and answer it like his kid and he kinda just relate it to like what are we doing with our lives and stuff like that. At the end of the day, he concludes that it's not, you know, the worst thing in the world like surely there are worst things than people pretending to be their kids on Twitter for retweets. -Right. -He just thinks it's annoying. -I'm just curious to know how this author knows that these twitters are lying? How does he know that these kids didn't actually say that? -He just claims-- -I mean for Danny, yeah it's-- -he's been able to like sniff them out. He's just, he's like, you can tell. He's like, I'm sniffing them out. -Okay. -I mean, I don't know. I gotta re-read it for like anytime, he likes specifically has proof of something. He just basically says it's too funny to not be written. -Right. -They're liked too perfect to not be written. -Right. -They're liked too perfect to not be written. -I don't know man. I guess-- -A lot of the stuff in the internet isn't real. -Right. -I would also say that even if this were a lie and these guys were sort of ghost-riding jokes for their kids-- -Right. -on their behalf, it's probably just because parenting is super boring. -And moments of like, where you find hilarity there. -Right. -To expose that and put it on Twitter to entertain your followers, I-- you know, I get it like yeah, it's annoying to like pretend to be someone you're not. -Yeah. -But at the same time it's like, "man, aren't we all here just to be entertained anyway, like if you follow someone like that, aren't you just trying to have a laugh every now and then anyway?" -Right, right. -Like if I follow freaking Bill Murray on Twitter-- -Right. -You know, I'm not following him because I wanna hear his thoughts about his meals. I'm following him because I wanna freaking laugh every day. -Yeah, and you're not gonna question whether or not everything he says is true. -Yeah. So what do we say to this Clive Martin guy? We say like get some real problems for you. -Or just unfollow the people that you think aren't being completely serious in a way that you want them to be. -Yeah. -I guess. -I guess. -It's such a weird problem to have with people on the internet. -The problem is-- -Like the internet, there are liars on the internet. -Well like that's-- yeah, it's like no shit. Welcome to the real world Sherlock. The thing is, is that I think what really sort of like grabbed my attention on this is that everything that comes out of VICE has this sort of like bad-assery attached to it. Do you know what I mean? -I guess so. Yeah. -I mean dude, that show on HBO is amazing. -Right. -Like I love it. I think it's unbelievable journalism. -Uh-hmm. -But like everything they put out seems like authoritative mixed with like, "we're not taking shit from anyone" sort of thing. -I guess so, yeah. -And when it's reporting on something as trivial as this. There's like this weird jocks to position in my mind in which the way I digest -Uh-hmm. -And I'm like my brain is torn in different directions. -Yeah. -Because it's like man, this is not a big deal. -We shouldn't. -It's coming from VICE. -Yeah. -So I feel like I'm supposed to care about it and be pissed about it. -Yeah. -But at the same time, it is simply does not matter. -Well that's what the beauty of VICE is, is that they've sort of perfected the art of caring but also really not caring about stuff. You shouldn't consider anything they write unless it's a serious new article to be reporting, right? Like this guy is just amusing. -Right. It's like, I feel like it's the same thing that are like-- -And just like when none of us like we clearly don't report this. -Oh, we are not a serious news show. We're an entertainment news show I think. But, you know, when I think of VICE, I don't think of that. I think of like-- -I think of-- -I think of like the dudes going into, you know-- -Like Shane Smith. -Shy Rack and like-- -Yeah, yeah. -you know, really and like mixing it up with gangs and like going in North Korea with Dennis Rodman and stuff like that. -Right. But that's also not serious reporting either. -I think I thought that piece was insanely eye-opening. -I mean, they were able to do it but, I don't know. Yeah, it's-- -It's like what Buzzfeed suffers from like they'll have like, you know, the 23 like things you'll missed the most about the 90's and then they'll write an article about the riots in the Ukraine. -Right. -And you're like, "What the hell is going on here?" -Yeah. It sort of reminds me of the Thought Catalog voice as well. I had to stop reading Thought Catalog. -Well, I don't know what that is. -'Cause it became really, really depressing. Do you read Thought Catalog? -No. I never had. -What is it? -It sort of this blog about musings on what it's like to be in your 30's and under, I guess. It sort of like a diary for sub 30 year olds and it's like, you know, similar to Buzzfeed but a little bit more heartfelt. I would say like a lot of list that are like 23 Things You Should Know Before You Turn 30 or like Lessons I've Learned-- -All right, I'm checking it out right now. -What are some of the headlines on there? -Eight highly bingable TV shows that are two seasons or less. -Oh, okay. -That's also valuable list right there. Eighteen things we shouldn't have been taught as teenagers. Yeah, stop saying we. I don't think you need to clump me in with your little list there. -It's just a lot. You know what it is? It's life lessons on how to grow up properly. -Sure. I'm into it. -Which is okay. -Sure. -But, I don't know. As you read it, it's like, "well, there's no one way to grow up." It's just reads like a lot of teenagers complaining about their lives. -For sure. -But once you, I guess, once you've sort of lived through that a little bit, you're like, "Oh, man. I could write-- anybody could have written this." -Yeah. -I do appreciate it though sometimes. -Nevertheless, go to the blog. Read the piece. Tell us what you think. Do you know who Richard Sherman is? -No. I don't. -You haven't? He's been on like every sports headline for the last couple of days. -That makes sense why I don't know who he is. -But that's what I'm saying. He's like, he's transcended sports is coming to like the mainstream media. No, clue? -No idea. -I mean, I'm not-- he's a football player. I'm not a football guy either. Ariel? -I've heard his name. -You've heard his name. -Only because I watched that last game so I know what's going on. -So you know what's going on. -Yeah. -So you know-- okay, real quick. Who-- what two teams are in the Super Bowl? -Oh, man. They're both teams-- they're both states legalized marijuana. -Pot teams, that's right. Good for you. -Colorado-- -Called the Colorado what? -I don't know. -Ariel, do you know? -I just know the Seahawks. -Okay. 'Cause that will be the 49ers. -That's all I know. Yeah, exactly. I don't know. -I also don't feel dumb for not knowing either. -No, I'm not saying-- look, I don't know shit about football either. -Yeah, I just don't care. -All right. -I'm sorry. -I don't like the football. I don't like the Super Bowl either. -As soon as something comes on TV about the game, I just turn it. -You just turn it off. -Yeah. I just don't care. -All right. You know, we used to have that sports thing with you-- -Yeah, all right. Yeah. -that was very funny, so I thought-- -You know, I still don't care. -you're [unk] guy. No, I know, you're very proud of that. So Richard Sherman plays on the Seahawks. And when they beat the 49ers last Sunday, he had a now infamous rant on TV right after the game. -Okay. -A female sports journalist went up to him and was like, "Oh, Richard Sherman." He broke up-- he plays defense and he broke up the last play of the game and, you know, essentially it was the last play and it basically won the game for them. -Okay. -And she goes up to him and she goes, "Hey, you know, great job." And one of the-- she was on the other team, this guy Crabtree, apparently they have like a feud, where they just talk a lot of smack to each other and this guy, Richard Sherman gets on the microphone and he's like, he gets in like the camera's face and he almost does like a WWE sort of like taunt. He's like, "Crabtree, he's like, stop talking shit" and stuff like that. It was funny. You should watch it. -Was it live? -It has nothing to do-- yeah, it was live. -Oh, man. -And like it's spiraled out into this huge debate about like it's gotten like raising the whole thing and I honestly like, I don't wanna touch that end of that stick. -Okay. -There's a whole thing and sort of like devolved from that. -Okay, I'll watch that later. -People are upset like the-- I forget the female reporter's name but, you know, she looked terrified all the time like he was somehow gonna eat her for dinner or something like that. -Uh-huh. -You have to see the video. It's empirically funny because he's very psyched. -He looks angry. -I mean he's angry. -His mouth is really wide open. -He's like a very big strong man that's super intimidating and like, he's like talking smack about this Crabtree guy. It's funny, it's funny. -The name Crabtree super funny. I don't know why. -I mean like, well, like Ms. Crabtree from the South Park. Anyway, by the way, it's the Denver Broncos and the Seattle Seahawks are in the Super Bowl. -Okay, all right. -And you know where the Super Bowl is, right? -No. -You don't know where it is? -Oh, yeah. -You don't know where it is? -I do. It's in Jersey. -Right. It's across the-- -Oh, right. It's technically in New York-- it's in New York but technically-- -No. It is in New Jersey. -Okay, all right, all right. -It is most certainly in New Jersey. -Oh, lit a fuse there. -Hey, man. Just got a lot of problems of people being like, "Oh, the Super Bowl is in New York." It is not. -Okay. -The Giants and the Jets play n New Jersey, okay? -Okay. -Now, you'll never forget that. You'll never forget that. -Yeah, yeah-- just talking about the rant. -Nevertheless-- -Okay. -Richard Sherman's Twitter name is @RSherman_25. -Uh-huh. -But there's a dude out there named Robbie Sherman, who's Twitter name is @RSherman25, no underscore. -Uh-huh. -I went to high school with Robbie Sherman and he's been getting some crap on Twitter because hundreds and thousands of people think he's Richard Sherman and he's just went through five days of confusion-- -Oh, no. -of just like misappropriation. People talking crap, people talking smack and it's hilarious. -That's a bummer. -The Seahawks corner, Richard Sherman, who is a two-timed Pro Bowler, which is the NFL's All-Star thing. He has won a Super Bowl because the Seahawks have never won the Super Bowl, I don't believe. And yeah, so he had this whole misidentification sort of thing going on and if you just look at his-- he's basically my old buddy Robbie writing to Richard Sherman being like, "Dude, I'm not you. Start telling people what your real handle is." And it went on for a while and this-- a very funny post on SP Nation. And here's Rob right here. -The underscore is hard to see man. You know, if you're gonna verified user on Twitter, you can't be having an underscore in your name. No one's gonna put that in, right? -Yeah, I mean like-- -The importance of punctuation-- can't have that in the twitter handle. -I'm with you man but look, it really does speak to the stupidity of the internet like how many times does this happen? -Yeah. -I mean it happened with, I remember with the Adam Lanza guy, right? -Oh, right. -It happened-- and every time there's a thing like this, anyone-- it's all like guilty by association. -Right. -Even if your handle remotely resembles the person in question. -Right. -You're gonna have like a nice solid five or six days until, you know, the idiot sort of thin out and they realized, wait a minute. I'm not tweeting the right person. -Yeah. -So poor Robbie, he's a good dude. -That sucks. -He doesn't deserve this. -I can't imagine it beginning any better for him in the next few weeks. -Well, no. I think like, you know, now that media has picked it up and sort of write the ship on who's who in this situation. -Yeah. -But it's funny one that this happen and to that-- I actually know the guy pretty well. -Yeah, yeah. -I went to high school with. -Sucks. The power of punctuation man. -Yeah. Underscores are a bitch, aren't they? -You see that a lot in Chinatown too. My girlfriend lives in Chinatown. You always see quotation marks used in the wrong place. -Sure. -And when it comes to Chinese restaurants, quotation marks in the wrong place can mean something really bad. Like there's one menu that we go to. I think it's at the restaurant called Amazing 66. And it says, "Welcome to a "clean" Western restaurant." -What? Sound like-- -Yeah, I don't why. -that is a lost in translation? -Yeah, I have no idea why they just randomly threw those quotes in there but it says, Welcome to a "clean" Chinese Restaurant. -You know-- that is a total lost in translation. -I mean that's offensive to other Chinese restaurants first of all because-- -It is. -it assumes that all other Chinese restaurants are dirty. -Are dirty. -Which is, you know what I mean, not be true. Yeah. -Well-- -But-- -It's a lost in translation thing. -Yeah, that's not cool. -I don't-- I'm not sure that the quotes around a word for emphasis mean the same thing here that it would possibly mean another culture. -Well, I felt like maybe they meant to underlying it like for emphasis. -Right. -A super clean Chinese restaurant not like a Doctor Evil Clean. -Right. It's like the total, you know, the rabid years of like supposedly. -Right. Yeah, like they didn't mean to be a sarcastic in Chinese restaurant. -Yeah, like this is a totally clean establishment. No. -Yeah. -They needed to bold, italicize and underline that. -Yeah, be careful. -Be careful with your punctuation kids. If you got a case of mistaken identity, let us know. E-mail us to firstname.lastname@example.org. We're getting voicemails back any day now. We'll keep you updated on that. You can follow us on Facebook, Twitter, Instagram and hop in the sub Reddit. It's kicking. There's a lot of fun stuffs to check out in our sub Reddit. So make sure you do that. We've got some guests coming down the pike on the next few weeks so get excited about that. And we're gonna say goodbye to you on this Friday. Everyone have a fantastic weekend. Until Monday, I'm Jeff Bakalar. -I'm Justin Yu. -I'm Ariel NuÃ±ez. -This been the 404 Show. High tech, low brow. Have an awesome weekend. We'll see you Monday.