Buzz Out Loud
Ep.1313: Bing bucks buy blingMicrosoft tries -- again -- to bribe users to Bing it while Blockbuster goes bankrupt and Blackberry bets on BlackPad. Also: Blogger bounced from bar. Bye!
He's now I'm -- -- and I regular welcome to buzz out loud CNET podcast of indeterminate length episode thirteen -- Mean they're -- -- lucky lucky. It's not spell if you turn it upside down. And. -- -- -- -- Yeah I eEye yeah at least be you know -- -- -- -- they -- it. You desperately needs leads coming up here real -- I know -- -- -- we have to talk about scheduling because. I need to move through Tuesday for that week I just -- to be on -- -- -- right around the corner that deal well episode -- We have -- there. It's gonna get going to be. Upside down yes. Are right so who we have news today from -- Wall Street Journal that rim is finally preparing to release its answer to the iPad. Which some people are calling the black pad whom we've talked about this before just getting closer here. The goof ball thing about this tablet -- In addition to running an operating system that. Only -- bunch -- embedded systems engineers are familiar with Unix the next. Is that it'll be like the palm Foleo in which while it will have wife you'll have Wi-Fi. Yes it have Wi-Fi. It'll have Bluetooth but it won't have a cellular connection it'll be companion to the Blackberry and use your Blackberry mobile as its cellular Gateway. Just -- just like both of the fully -- had no Wi-Fi. Okay okay there's nothing wrong with that scenario -- mean I'm I'm doing it right now untethered with my adroit for the three G while mama you're stealing my overdraft protection whatever you -- yet but. Let you dig at all. If you've got your Smartphone on anyway it's not like it's not like a tablet is going to replace your Smartphone and but the thing is about as is. Is this religious tells me -- blackberries just going for their blackberries yeah. I mean that's that's not that's is that the point right there it's kind of like you've already got a smaller segment -- -- quite a large user base -- already got a smaller segment and then you're going after in even smaller segment of that smaller segment of the overall population and this is -- -- question for people that don't already -- black. It -- -- the last couple of felons even that came out or just kind of catered towards the Blackberry crowd and don't him wrong I think this is that crowd. You know you'll have to pry their blackberries and other cold dead arms or hands or whatever but if it isn't it -- -- yeah it's. -- -- -- -- -- Bill that a big product -- It Canada's doesn't make much sense to -- a lock it down in that way if -- all -- what everyone is trying to you right now is. Cellular connectivity. By hook or by crook but doesn't have a cellular data plan attached to it means it's less expensive and -- so you can have this companion tablet this is one of the arguments where you can have this companion tablet. And all tablets are companions misery -- phone. Argument you -- -- -- -- without having to -- and have full access to you know pervasive. Cellular network without having -- -- Contra are that could be very attractive to businesses. Which. Many of which by blackberries -- there where there employee -- so I could see this may be that's a strategy for -- to roll out. Now are attractive to employees who -- -- -- Blackberry that I can't Florida to get every little moderate or an excellent I'll have to -- drop -- -- which is how a lot of people indoctrinated to the whole Blackberry thing anyway yeah and I you know while I thought oh I want this product come out there and especially this way. Because it will put competitive pressure on Apple to turn on tethering for the iPhone so that my Wi-Fi I. IPad can now have global connectivity if you -- -- -- yeah yeah yeah absolutely but it is a weird way Alter product. Well I think it's it's that I think the most interesting thing here is that it's actually going to be based on the cube and X platform got your -- and -- That they also said moving forward this is what we would see. New Blackberry phones to run on rather than there they're -- Blackberry OS right now so. I guess we'll see. -- stones are shipping with that but the kid -- is a really interesting. It's based on -- on it's it's a Unix writes it to do with Linux it's a Unix but the interesting thing about is that the kernel and is really geeky. Only contain two -- scheduling and internal like processing stuff -- interrupts and everything else runs as the user. So it is supposedly more stable because of which. I know that it's used in a lot of embedded systems like yeah I'm like filling airplanes and stuff like that -- it's -- it's an embedded real time operating system is not what you think of running a consumer tablet -- you know. If anybody needs a new OS if Blackberry because they make some fantastic hardware. But they're always trying to sneak rebel in the DOS or is it the you lie because it well -- -- -- right you're right it might be the -- but regardless at this point you know. It that I don't want on the same when he yeah compare that that it also feel like it's running around like -- processor from the ninety's that they're actually partnering with Mark Bell for the chips which doesn't strike a lot of confidence in -- -- rather than. See them go with. You know. -- -- -- -- just I think Margo and I think all of his embedded devices have played with -- And other doing little to do -- -- -- term what may be an actor but he announced its doors are right there is that this is speaking of a technical -- -- story here. This is a little inside Silicon Valley baseball here but last night Michael Arrington of techcrunch. Posted a extraordinarily. Inflammatory story called so blogger walked into the bar where there was this big gathering of -- group of guys. Called Angel investors. And these are people who are funding these went to a start -- Michael was not invited in and out of a party and they said don't come you're not invited so he went. That's what you do if your hardware your -- but it's oh yeah. And they all got really a couple kicked them out. When he found out what this gathering of people at a -- was about apparently was Angel investors was reporting any minute now thinking cut out about this is kind as the controversy about this. Price fixing -- colluding rather to keep the valuation that they -- in the ways they fund the startup companies low. To basically keep the entrepreneur -- -- from getting money they would otherwise. Yet in a more open competitive environment for -- now. The little bit of -- here before we go into this -- to what's. To the controversy on this. In the new world of of technology funding when you can start a web 20 company for you know. Two guys with on -- rom and budget and cloud services that don't require millions and millions of dollars of servers. -- no longer need. Big venture capital money and where these guys -- -- billion dollar well pulls the money to invest. And the only way they can make it -- the time with invest in million dollars that kind of money doesn't apply at what to both of this is new breed of investors called. Angel investors. Which. Generally people who made money in the last -- And they will invest smaller amounts in smaller companies and take a different kind of ownership -- -- And equity stake but not and -- So the company makes money and it's successful it is basically betting on the fact that they -- and they didn't donate money -- Canadian earlier for less money right. And they don't take fourteenth venture capital almost always picked Ortiz that they control of the copy and -- the founders want an Angel investor can't make the to make money. You so then what is the super. Angel investor Angel is this as -- -- super arrangement as angels get more and more powerful yet as the class that's -- -- -- always get larger right they become more they'll anyway ring yeah Eric Haney says here that -- Angel investors who have more and more clout in Silicon Valley now are. Exerting that in these you know mafia meetings where they get -- is -- is out of business and don't tell anybody but we're gonna do all together. He says that's -- legal microphones that they're polluting effect is that legal. Dave McClure who was at this thing is one of the most. Outspoken of the Angel investors. Wrote a -- elsewhere in a blog yes hey hey hey hey hey obscenity laced blog post -- that thing we are not polluting sure we talk. There is the agenda was yeah brings good food and shouldn't you know and not to collude -- stakes were to pop cap and anybody's. Yeah no one really knows anything specifically at this point other -- without fact that Arrington walked into the room and everybody shut up when he walked in there and even though he's close friends of these people is -- so inside baseball. But -- what is the interesting thing is like you you read Dave McClure is right companies saying you know nothing's going on here we're just. Together for good drawings good discussion. And it -- really was close friends of these people and not all that was going on. Why on earth did they shun him so incredibly and the way the bank will that's it now has blog. And if he's really the super duper -- -- he says is -- -- name them which he didn't do. Right and everybody's wondering who they are but until newspapers now to set -- sexy ads and now another candidate -- saying yeah. The think to me that is most in thing about this and that I don't want to dwell with too much -- is really important because this. Is where businesses start this is where the new technology is that that we -- to cover. Start they start with a couple of guys with an idea in Silicon Valley they're just not -- Stanford and they need money. To live for year -- while they get their business off the ground -- the go to the Angel investors and it's it's kind of a lack. It nobody outside of -- -- really understands how this thing works American is trying to say look you know it's getting a little hairy here again maybe there's a reason why do you want that a valid understand it's clear text. Anyway fascinating couple of stories on tech question and 500 -- sparklers blog and uninteresting to see where this goes and if it is in fact -- an exhibit is what he's claiming and -- not huge. That's that's like -- massive lawsuits -- well maybe maybe not because there's also the argument. That -- it says that collusion works on the seller side and a buyer's side and went to fight if you we are both competing for making competitive widgets and we collude. To say that we're going to keep the price artificially high that's collusion. I -- however if we together want to buy a product from -- vendors making widgets and we say we go to -- to them. -- point to that person's that we will buy this but yours are yours are priced now is that agreement pollution or not. That's buying Cyprus is so -- share different the distinct difference but it. Yeah anyway. So you guys as a split the militants on the letter you go as -- farm bill of course I know now all -- time I mean when I'm not hacking eleventh. You harming I can't think at the end all of those games on and and you -- we've come a long. -- from from the way that my news feed wasn't FaceBook like a year ago -- -- was doing was getting bit by vampire listen. And they started to block as I started that brought this up -- -- now you don't have only our us. So last night FaceBook announced that they're changing the way the notifications that game notifications go into your feed. And this is actually pretty clever I I think I I don't know what's gonna do for their for new users but. If you're farm bill player for example you'll now see notifications in your feet from other -- -- players. As you would like to do because you can see what your buddies are up to and I you can you know -- their farms or whatever -- -- -- If you're not. A player that came. You won't see it you'll get there you know in data of all this stupid sheet notifications them you know it's also just saw it bigger sheets -- just this this looks just like the. Blackberry where you know you're only in if you're already -- the same thing with farm bill now. Now so -- not enough farm bill anonymously because they're not nearly as much exposure but I mean I -- actually say. That's since I've started blocking these applications I get none of this anymore so like I saw this on the I guess that's good -- a year ago in overpriced are blocking these applications but it. So like I meaning getting inundated anymore platform or requests they don't see it -- you don't have to then things now you don't have the market analyst at FaceBook is saying this is makes it. Better for everybody because. It's not so much about that you won't see the notification that you're not a player but if you are -- player. Now you'll see yeah Avi of a better way because they're moving the notifications around the you get better -- basis for the game figuring it have you noticed the thing with the notifications where we get the numbers now on the side is that part of this. -- -- -- -- -- -- -- Because now -- -- tells me like you know got the guilty number next old things like he's missing messages and now it's like messages 380 for the Yemen which didn't. Really ultimately is about -- making their news feed as usable for the individual as possible and all those -- game requests that come in there when you're not a player of the game I mean it's it's essentially spam. Is what it is and I -- -- -- yeah I'm right you're right it may take in the that's how they catch it means because it's it's delicious -- you have to. If that's a funny thing. I'm not -- in the Fargo bank or vampires. Have -- if you're looking for -- -- to save two pennies on your bacon you should use Microsoft's. Internet Explorer and the new being toolbar. We're doing now -- -- which will now reward you four and have a life by the withdrawal now reward you for using being. The search Microsoft keeps trying to get this over and they were doing this for awhile with corporations for their -- to get the IT administrators to make Bing the default. Opens with those on the last year there. So actually been MMX. That I -- the requirements here are being our windows live IDB on a windows machine use Internet Explorer. No Chrome no Firefox no tax yet but if all those things edited and are. Our -- -- to -- -- there -- already jobs you get. Being credits at some point 250 credits for signing up an additional credits by taking actions or conducting searches -- just by searching. You get little inlets and the only thing anecdotally that being let's -- -- And then you can to redeem them. For. It's unclear can get a hold up development and movies and -- it redeem America Radio Flyer war and navy. Clicks on X raid classes to yeah -- -- I'm writing this is like you know things like Velika serial comic at about the total -- -- back natively boilerplate whatever. 3520. Credits of unity Knight dvd to now. Your family -- have to pay them to send it to use that to be paying you. The -- you can get until October 2 you can earn one being credit for every five being searches you do up to eight credit the day so there's a cap on. Now Meehan area. -- optical -- that. She has about -- -- that is like one pearl script away from lots of points I'm living scrabble game you get get one upload. Yeah. One movie delaying it until it mingling. That like that one movie ticket with then bingo it's 15100 credits. So a date would be 3000 credits which. Basically a year of searching nonstop with being sent by pass right if you think about thing about how -- how many times you use Google I've. If you connect every time. -- why do we use Google because it does not have facilities and I don't. It's like they fit in -- risky business. They don't have to pay for yeah exactly right and so we're LC gonna get date night if you know if you don't get all your bidding credits you get what you do the movies or current out what videos aren't you -- it and then you're gonna go to blockbuster what are you sure you're gonna got a -- oh wait a minute. -- -- -- -- -- Blockbuster -- filing for Chapter Eleven The Wall Street Journal reports. They're getting close maybe even this week -- gonna file they're going to close. Basically. All their stores an adult woman they're gonna keep a small number open -- 50800 stores and focus on -- -- digital digital distribution. Cloud like from. The they'd just cut their billing data nano with law yeah man -- digital got lost from the return and -- Indeed just three and we've just recently heard from one other of listeners over in Wisconsin about how in a like -- -- -- the kiosks shots that. And then they were gonna be doing network a promotion where you know you get wrestler be and then you get like them removing years that the -- living room at some kiosk company more so than -- but -- as a yeah so low -- -- -- blue box has yet. Are we gonna miss blockbuster no but her children I'm gonna understand what the whole video store thing is when they watch -- sitcoms. That you truly -- because that's always the place -- -- that the couple would bump into each other that just broken up and manipulate we are today. It Oakland Museum now Adobe media so inevitably bumping into each other on FaceBook and buy it bonding over Netflix queues. Those scenes -- -- counseling not really -- -- is awkward and it. -- -- -- The and head of the Xbox program over Microsoft. -- -- Bang. It lost -- -- Is saying that Blu-ray is going to be passed by as a high definition video format Stephen -- so thank you we've got a blockbuster going digital and then it got Xbox thing. You Blu-ray. Apple is not putting Blu-ray in any of its computers let's physical media -- need for -- Apple corps wants iTunes to be everything so they don't want advancements anymore physical media. Why I. Applaud them for you know for over -- that direction I can believe that. That physical media is is so it should just be like read reform has for the storage yeah but that's why I think it's weird that Apple is isn't putting Blu-ray into their right computers are such professional like -- used as a professional situations. Video editing some like that'd be kinda useful to grow and I understand Microsoft not just saying this because I data that hedge their bets on the -- I don't get is that the Xbox is a really good media player according to people know how one. I don't and it should have Blu-ray so would be a good media player American understand Microsoft. -- like Apple wanting everything to move. Online -- different distribution because it better or you know technology companies the remember the HDDVD yeah I was let's say they didn't did you feel this way when they had -- -- dvd add on. They must be -- this actually I think Microsoft like yes. Let you know it's like a lot they got burned by HD dvd lost yeah and but a Blu-ray won so want to go the -- -- I don't know maybe they don't wanna put their tail between their legs. Microsoft yeah automatic or you were just go to digital and I suppose qualify the statement that I think that you know Blu-ray is is great is this towards format and -- digital. We should prevail but not the current form of digital where we don't have the right so we. Would have otherwise I was just thinking like. I have on what I've got them move beyond Netflix or -- on demand it wouldn't take it over to this friend's place didn't know rate I can't burn it to a desk and they don't have -- room crew. Right that's the big advantage of digital distribution if you're in the content business. If there's no secondary market for -- much harder and lets you got your buddies like Daryn yes you make -- secondary market work yeah and then -- lose out on the whole the whole link you know. What is it for sale. -- -- facilities copy and anyway. Twitter outage of the last day or so is now. An Australian seventeen year old is taking the blame for -- even though it was also reported this with a known. Exploit. Previously. Anyway this this guy are still -- -- stealth and what a great name. Yeah you -- east is a follow on is easy AP. He had heat so he he discovered this way to put them scripting inside a tweet. And he he was using it to make his tweaks go all rainbow colored and stuff and then things got a live a little bit out of hand well he's just. If he you know shared it with the world and that's what happens when you do full disclosure like that you just you know pop the explode on the mailing list well now everybody that can figure -- -- uses -- in this case it's just Java script so. You know can go ahead and report -- -- if you will. Yet the problem with being able to write code against the new username and passwords. -- that he he knew what he was doin'. After. I think realizing at the open pandora's box he he realized that it with a big oops. I think it's great to that he was able to -- all that process scripting in 140 characters. But but but but it's true. Hopefully I won't get into trouble he added that Hesse that's the story it says very famous last words I -- -- you know what and hopefully he doesn't get in trouble. No believe in says he did it just because you know. And when it -- to and he could mean well never any malicious and it is interest -- lately we meet again ever relish -- -- okay but. -- the seventeen year old kid to hack the Gibson it's not because who's trying to you know on the world -- Really. I don't know what they're innocent hero can turn Gibson but -- -- -- -- I would have been doing it from malicious intent looked through there. Our rights let's go there indeed. The and then the Gmail -- For Android. Has been updated which is you know -- get -- all the time but this is an interesting change in important changes that Daryn what's going on with that Gmail on the Android that. And this is good stuff because they've basically. Gmail application from the operating system it's completely independent NASA you already -- -- 2.2. Then you can go ahead and get the new Gmail application -- an updated already and and going forward with with further. Additions of the found. You won't be locked into whatever your operating system in Iraq in order to upgrade your Gmail so the music -- hero because they're pushing new features to Gmail on noble. A lot faster because they don't have to wait for carriers to approve it and write their own version of that and all that stuff so is. Is Google doing a little and around over the complaint we have about carriers messing with the phones and locking him down is that what's -- definitely have been hearing this for awhile and I hope that they do this there were all of the internal applications because there's no reason yeah I ended they've actually started doing this and some of the other ones as well and then -- actually remember -- one from a couple -- months -- -- -- it like -- -- -- Yeah it's nice to not to wait for your next OS update to get a new version of something so critical like Gmail and they could definitely been burned when it comes CA you know previous carriers now operating in the cell phones -- with one point six and -- just sat and it hurts Android as a whole now. Speaking of hurt -- re read last night it up from Dallas by about the ever cookie. -- song this we talked a while ago about. People discovering that cookies that -- -- your computer can also be store and people delete -- from time to time they can also be stored in flash you and it's. Most people don't know to look in flash or delete flash but -- well the ever cookie. Does is this new kind of cookie that you can't delete because it stores itself. In like eight different places -- your cash in your html five. Repository in flash. Wherever it can right itself it stores itself there and then he deleted in one place and you open up your browser again -- -- the islands and the that a final somewhere else and it -- every up right now and yet forced cash kings not -- files using html five canvas tag. Flash cookies. RGB values of auto generated. It's a whole it -- like ER GB values I don't store information so it's like you've got an image file but basically -- -- diagonal graffiti yeah. Now that's crazy can't. Now that we know about the ever -- you know couldn't a very simple app. You know running when the browser is closed going clean them all out or you could -- -- secure browser within a virtual machine that you always plus. I mean is that you browse the web yeah all the time on port. Yes yet sure if we had had like visible virtual machine right at a -- and it runs at about 50%. Finale saw -- earlier -- this is a lot faster than than you last Friday that they've we have report has -- yeah unfortunately -- now. Anyway. -- watch out and watch up whatever would be that's all the -- that it's him off my pretty aware of the ever cookie this business. Eight the iPad. According to reports. For. Room and of the American consumer satisfaction index. Is an unbelievably popular among users -- it of all the product all technology products out there it is tops in consumer satisfaction. Running at. The numbers out today show that the overall PC industry had a new average score of 78 out of 100 Apple. However had a new score of 86 and a lot of that is attributed to the iPad. To the iPhone down -- the iPad -- Jack had the iPhone as we remember runs on. Eighteen. That would be but people are paying for the iPad and they are just loving it what is it once you I mean it's a tough sell because you like -- -- -- need this but then once you have it. You're like oh this is nice and it's not one of those like others replaces something but -- definitely had something some value to life and -- -- lake. It once you forget about the money you spent. It's wonderful device. And you find uses for it yeah along the and I think when I read this it really kind of just. Pointed it it's sealed the deal on the fact that if an Android tablet is gonna come out it has such a huge road. To travel in order to even come close to what the iPad has been able to do. IPad will have had so much traction already and I mean yeah I anybody yet talk -- has and I pattern most people. Barring that the little things that it can't do you like flash or whatever but for the things it can do it does it very well on it just feel like. We haven't seen a whole with her -- a lot of threats about new lot ill Andrea tablets that are that are coming out -- -- iPad -- killer or whatever. I I just don't I don't think that the user experience at least in the short term is necessarily going to -- rival that. Now it's a bit too fragmented right now and and manipulate what we're gonna see -- CES is a ton of different and Republican all -- the things who did you see the one with them. Whatever whiz -- nifty feature. There's always going to be up but with all of -- yeah there aren't really black it's happening right or they're not gonna be you know -- solid and or that's fast or they'll be more expensive and -- get more features than just. Nobody knew what to expect with the iPad yet and because of that maybe it delivered them -- -- yeah. -- -- -- just in black is over the head it's just one -- -- like hey it's actually good that's what the story is saying. -- -- We have no robot news today. Since I know it's really bummed me out but we do have and new release of the bio -- infinite trailer -- this is that. A sequel to this the Bioshock game which is pretty beautiful to begin with and this one with the -- in 2012. This game I just I was just gob smacked by this interest -- that -- five minute mark. It unlike the last Bioshock game -- -- the video. Only that last -- game which was mostly underwater and and I'll put a little bit of it. That's what it's like in the air it's cool it's gonna have -- sisters or I'm not and that's all it has that -- what PP sisters but that little yet. It just. I don't know it's gorgeous -- that and another doesn't play well you're listening to this audio only but it there. It's inches staying. Then I mean incredibly cinematic I never played the bio -- the first came out and MPS three I guess I can I -- Biden can catch up but. It's pretty impressive view the problem and even if we already knows -- the -- totaling twelve. T even get this game a couple years from now honestly -- -- get to fly through the army uses statistical look a little bit before you leave this them yeah that's you that's true -- good -- you stay alive. There's anything. -- that's theme -- going on that little missed field to it definitely very -- with the those tracks and yeah. They Qaeda has like this you know it's not dark but has this dark city feel just the way that they released this little that -- -- -- here where the environment consistently. And the way that they have it in first person to I don't know -- -- kind of the Bioshock things well it it really kind of it seems like it would be ideal for some sort of three -- at the -- 3-D delivery if you know it's always going through my -- two years that might actually be no brainer. The this clip we just saw in 3-D would make anyone -- girl yeah yeah that's -- you want appliance. -- you lot of are we got voice -- today if you elect -- that's what spell it the number is 806162. Extreme that's 800 excellent fix the NET and this is Mike from Tampa regarding. At at it in the. -- -- that'll keep me on -- that'll write it is the great photo project. Whatever it is. Verizon -- switching to a two -- -- On data and as long that can keep my limited data. With more info I'm totally on the for the market -- three gigs. Two more days to -- -- -- So. Yeah -- Publisher on data. He mean well clearly that they'll keep the few people have -- over because they're grandfathered into the unlimited plan as an extra five bucks a month versus two gig. Now but. For the flexibility. I love the grandfather planting the all the really says is that plans get worse and worse. They're big everybody and it has a -- other planet expert a lot of like audio of the -- -- -- -- sprint beacons you know and in this and they tell you the really sweet stuff you know you're only paying. You know back when your Condoleezza only be like sixty bucks a month not like -- one. -- You I don't know I don't is -- staggering. Everybody Clinton. Everybody's different but -- I'm on the grandfather iPhone plan that the monitoring my data and I'm not coming anywhere near two gigs a month and I'm spending sixty bucks a year for the privilege of not using it. If you're continually having a bad experience trying to use your phone regardless of if -- on a -- on a -- or -- that's gonna -- the difference yeah. That is you can email -- -- at cnet.com like Mike did Mike says hey the Intel chip that can be upgraded by paying an extra fifty dollars is nothing new. Way back in the seventies I worked on NCR computers back then. They had two models they had two models that were really the same I think it was a century fifty in century 100. But -- is fuzzy. To upgrade for the fifty to the 100 the field service guy came out and moved to wire on the back plane to increase the clock speed. Of course the price -- a lot more than fifty dollars we got a fair number of emails on the Intel -- deal now -- and a lot of voice mails alone. Is to that was the one here's another one from -- assumed that yesterday talked about the issue -- -- credible Intel chips that's please consider the following. By offering upgrades Intel is able to produce one type of -- and sell it to two different types of consumers. Thanks to economics of scale this means that the price of the chips fall on average. Since Intel -- the products in the competitive market these cost savings should also have an impact on the prices Intel charges for the specific components so both high and and the budget restricted user. Actually profit from lower prices. Of their components and computers on top of that the cheap consumer as an option to upgrade. His her computer when the performance does need without the cost of migrating data to -- system I don't see why this business model is successful with soft. With software by entering a licensed code and not hardware. I for my part will be very happy to unlock the core I seven mode might -- dual core duo that's -- in the fancy that's an interesting poison. You know. They are similar but I don't know why this distinction to -- on friendship I think when when you're buying hardware there's just this assumption that you own everything -- it at that point and to unlock an invisible feature that was kind of hidden from you even though you own the hardware just kind of feels wrong what what what I understand the sailing. It's great -- what this says that they've got their manufacturing process down to where it wasn't like before where there were some flaws and that -- how the it differentiated between. The mid range the high end products. They just -- -- certain parts off on the on the tips that weren't you know fully whoever -- now it's gotten us and so good that they have to artificially differentiate and that's fine because they say that just means a new -- -- -- -- breaking your CPU. You that is -- it probably wouldn't take a whole lot for somebody to have to hop in there and at a pretty -- stuff we'll see we'll -- we'll see some motherboard -- come out that are maybe you know there are licensed to were sketchy you have some you -- some unofficial third party bios updates and then that'll be more fun there is an important already. A robust tradition. And community of people over clock -- CPUs sometimes. Is supported by the manufacturer. You know with -- -- -- selling of an unlocked part sometimes not. -- in many keys with the new you know that the core I. I don't remember than the number of but the new one -- -- over clock themselves essentially. But the turn off the turn off some of the cores and over clocked the ones that are still on in a did you some really fancy stuff it's more like dynamic processing exactly. And -- to pay well. Alright thanks for the emails thanks for the calls that's it for today two more days of Jason. That's right the two more days of Jason and countdown to set this ball. I know I'm I -- stamps that and I'm close enough to the end of this week to start. -- area and you finally moved to the -- chair. I know I've never center for buzz out -- this is that deliberate well thank you and I can actually see you because you I don't. Not a scene you gotta be I always -- the volunteers. Go to below that cnet.com or full playback and all the show notes and links and so what that sent us an email buzz at cnet.com from the voicemail 80616. To six. And thank -- for a -- Jessica a ticket the number the sort of -- the -- -- them on. Time to get smart. -- --