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Ep. 1267: Where we fang with briendsA new single-serving Tumblr page makes New Yorkers hate their apartments, a San Franciscan put his van on Airbnb, a new font lets dyslexia sufferers read, and Bang With Friends saddles up for life on the run.
-What's up, everybody? It's Thursday, May 9th, 2013. You've tuned in to The 404 Show on CNET TV. I'm Jeff Bakalar. -I'm Justin Yu. -I'm Ariel NuÃ±ez. -Welcome to the program, everybody. It's a nice little new update we're able to do. If you're one of the people that wanna catch us live, you can do that now on multiple platforms not just cnettv.com, not just cnet.com/the404. Now, through the magic of the internet, we're on UStream.tv and we're on this little site called YouTube. -I've heard of it. -You've heard of that. -Yeah. -So, there's many ways to catch the live show. -Can we get an overhead shot of us watching ourselves Podcasting on YouTube? -Yeah, here we go. -It's just like-- -Wow, this is-- -inception here. -This is cool. -This is hurting my brain. -So, welcome to all 37 new watchers. -Yeah. -What's up, guys? -And, yeah, we're just gonna apologize in advance. -Yeah. -Because that's how it works. So, welcome to the program. We've got a lot of talk about today. A lot of exciting stories that we couldn't fit in yesterday, -Uh-hmm. -because there was like a fire drill or something. What was it? -What? -I'm making that up. -And then we'll get to some voicemails if there's time. You could leave on yourself, 866-404-CNET. -Uh-hmm. -But first thing we're gonna do is jump into some of the stories of the day coming from our own Justin Yu. Take it away Justin. What do you got? -So, I wanna talk about really shitting apartments in New York. -Yeah. -Because everyone knows that residence of New York city, especially, but also the other birds as well pay way too much really small, ugly apartments. Me myself being one of them. So, there's actually a Tumblr and I can't believe that this didn't exist prior to this one being registered but there's a Tumblr called theworstroom.tumblr.com. -This is like brand new. It got only the [unk]. -Brand new, it's like a single [unk] at Tumblr, -Yeah. -and will be doing it for a few days. But what it basically does is really simple. Just go on Craigslist in New York and find some of the worst smallest, but also the most expensive apartments, -Right. -that he can find and then he posts pictures of them along with their prices on the internet. -Some of them are really upsetting, -Yeah. -to the point where you like this is in New York? -Yeah. -This is in this country? Super sad. So, let's scroll through a few of these. Some of them are really upsetting. -So, look. If you wanna live in Bed-Stuy, one of the-- I like Bed-Stuy, it's a nice part of Brooklyn. -It's all right. -But this apartment, not so nice, $725 gets you this tiny little kitchen. -That doesn't look-- -It looks more like a bathroom. -Yeah. -I thought that was bathroom. -Yeah. It looks like a janitor's closet, really. -Well, it could be that the stove is in the bathroom. -Right. -That's what I was thinking. -Right. And it doesn't look like the stove will open up all the way. -Uh-hmm. -For a fear, it might hit the sink. -At least there is a stove. There's a lot of apartment listings in Manhattan that you only get a burner. So, that's actually boom. -They just give you a candle and a spoon. -Yeah. -And that's how you have to cook your soup. -You know, the funniest thing about all these postings is the way that marketers and people try to spin really negative things to try to make it good. -Yeah. -Like the broker that I got my apartment from and I pay way too much for an apartment. I'm in the East Village. -Yeah. -But I have a tiny dorm room style refrigerator/freezer. You know, like it's not a giant one. It's one of these things that probably won't even reach the table in this Podcast studio. And it's funny 'cause when the brokers showed me the apartment, he was like, yeah, it's a dorm style, refrigerator/freezer, but you know what, that's just means you're gonna eat fresh. There's a lot of great restaurant and local takeouts around the neighborhood. Just take advantage of your local surroundings. -It's like how-- -And I was like, dude, you don't have to spin this for me. I can see that it's a tiny ref-- -Yeah. -that I can't even put ice cube trays in there. Just be real right now. -I would be like, has anyone really agreed with you? And we're like, yeah, that's a great idea. -Eat fresh. -Eat fresh, spend more money. -Go to Subway. -Oh, my God. -Yeah. It is terrible. -The best part about a lot of these photographs is that they're taken really poorly as well. -Right. -And the awful quality of the image is almost completely, you know, relate to-- absolutely how terrible these rooms are. -Like this one. -Like this one. Taken with behind what? Like a fogged mirror or something? -Yeah. -I don't understand. -Nice. -This is so funny. I don't know. Maybe it's smoke. Maybe the apartment is on fire right now. -And maybe there's just a constant fog in this place. -Yeah. This is in Lefferts Garden in Brooklyn. This guy is looking for two roommates to occupy a bunk bed. -Yeah, sign me up. Sign me up. -Jeez. -The top bunk bed is $500 a month. The bottom bunk is $600 a month. -Serious? -I prefer to be on the top, actually, but-- -Who doesn't? -I guess it's-- you gotta climb a ladder that takes up $100 extra dollars. -Okay [unk] on top. -So bad. -Some of these are really-- and then there's one that's like-- have you seen this one? The one from May 8th, the East Village Manhattan One. I think it's one below, the one you're-- yeah, it's like a nicely tiled floor. -Oh, yeah. -You're never gonna see the outdoors because you're 7 layers below the surface of the earth. -Right. Beautiful natural lighting here. -But you know, $1600 in this 300-square-foot room could be yours. -Yeah. Someone's gonna pay for that marble on the floor. -Yeah, it ain't gonna pay for itself. -This is so bleak. -I love seeing this. So, how did you hear about this? I heard about this from our buddy Ben Dreyfuss. -I heard about it from our coworker's show. -Yeah. -Actually. -The sad reality. It's not this bad though. These are just-- the worst part about this, though, is that it really gives you insight as to how [unk] expensive New York City apartments are. -Yeah. -What how little you'll get for a lot of money and that's the most upsetting thing. -It's because it's about the apartment that you're really paying for. A lot of these places are in pretty good parts of Manhattan. Like for example, one of my older roommates after I lived and then he moved into this place in the West Village. He paid $2300 for a studio apartment but he's about a tall as me, about 6'1", right? But when you walked into the bathroom, you couldn't open the door more than halfway before it hit the toilet. -No. -So, you had to shimmy into it and then step over the toilet to get to that shower. -No. -But that's not even the worst part about this. -It gets worse? -When you-- when he was sitting on the toilet, -Yeah. -in order to be comfortable, because his knees touched the wall in front of him. -He's a large man. He's a tall man. -Sort of but also the wall was really close to the toilet, can you imagine that? His knees actually touched the wall. -Oh, man. -So, in order to be comfortable while he was pooping, he had to lift a window that was in front of him on the wall. -No, no. -And then lean out of the window and look down at people in the courtyard below him in order to poop. -That's BS. -That's not a joke. I wish I had a photo of it. -Yeah. -And when it rained he got wet. -His head got wet. His body remained dry but then he just jumped into the shower afterwards. -Hey, New York. -That's not a joke. Isn't that crazy? -New York city. -That's insane. -Yeah, over at 2 grand for that apartment. -If you can make it here, you probably better off making it somewhere else. -Yeah. -It's the slogan of the city. -Man, I've been going through this process lately, looking for a place 'cause I'm trying to move. -Yeah. -And it's such a pain 'cause there's so many horrible listings like compromising more and more every time, you know. -Yeah, you're like, oh, I don't really need a front door. -Yeah. -Because I could live without that. -I could probably do 3,000. -Yeah. -All right. No toilet, that's cool. -That's fine. -The shower works. -Sucks. -You know, like, it will be a double-duty shower. -Look at this one? The floor in this Williamsburg Apartment for $1200 actually has moss growing on it. -Yeah but that's chic. Okay. People like that. -That's artsy. -They'll freaking eat that up. -Yeah, yeah. -I'm so crunchy here in my stupid-- -Wait, so, 1200 for that. -Yeah. -Shabby chic. -Yeah it's shabby chic. It's [unk]. -wow, terrible. -Let's move on to another housing related story. So, New York obviously got its fair share about apartments but if you wanna go and visit San Francisco but you don't have a lot of money to pay for a hotel room, there's actually a van on Airbnb. A guy is renting out his Chevy van for $92 a month and here it is. -A night. -Actually a night. -I'm sorry, yeah, $92 a night. It's a 1990 Chevy Conversion van with only 45,000 miles. -Yeah 'cause you don't want your hotel room to have too much mileage on. -Right. -Yeah. -Can we see inside this thing or no? He's not showing that. -Yeah. Let me see if I can bring up the ad here. -It's like, sorry, photos of the love dungeon aren't available on the internet. -Yeah. You say the word dungeon but it really does look kind of like either [unk] paradise or like a vehicle for surveillance. -This is the van police are constantly looking for. -Yeah. -Right. -The white van. -This is the van you see on the news where the victim was last scene hiding at. -Right. -Uh-hmm. -Okay? So, no, thank you, sir. -There is a cozy queen-sized bed in the back. -Of course. -I bet there is. I bet there is. Along with an untimely death-- -Yeah. -in there as well that you can snuggle right up to. -Uh-hmm. -No, thanks. -You actually can't even drive it anywhere. So, the mileage is a moot point. -What do you mean? There's no engine in the car? -Well, you can drive it but I guess its CNET-- -It's his car. So, wherever he wants to go he has-- -The reporter on CNET that wrote the story actually talked to an Arabian B's spokesperson. That spokesperson said that Arabian B's policy states that you can't have lodging that moves. -Okay. -So, if it's a boat, then it's gotta be docked. If it's a car, it's gotta be parked, it's gotta be stationary. -Right. -So, you can't even drive this place around. -Yeah. I mean that's understandable. -Where do you think the best place would be to park this vehicle in San Francisco? -Over like some look out, you know. -Yeah. -Yeah, that'd be nice. -Yeah. -Just at the top between peaks or something. -Yeah, for sure. -Yeah there. Yeah, that'd be nice. -If you drive yourself over it too. -I mean, only 45,000 miles. You can't go wrong with that. -Yeah. -The 1990 Chevy Conversion. -You should start renting out your Buick POS. -You know what man, you could get a good night sleep in the backseat in that thing. I'm telling you man. I drive a couch. -Yeah. -Okay. I drive a couch. -It's very comfortable. -It is. -You've been in there, right? -No, I have like kicked the side of it, yeah. -All right, yeah. You left the [unk] your friend, right. -You invited me to do that. -I know. I'm messing around. I wanna be with this luxury flier. Okay. Let's go to-- I wanna talk about this font. I thought this font was so interesting that you brought up yesterday about Dyslexia. -All right. Yeah. You're a font guy. -I used to be a like front nerd, right? So, there's a font and this comes from scientific American. There's a font that helps dyslexic people read better. -Right. -It's a font that was designed in the Netherlands. -Uh-hmm. -And it's basically a 30-year old font that has proved to decrease the number of errors made by dyslexics while reading. -No. He is 30 years old but he just created the font. -Oh, I'm sorry. Right, right, yeah. Obviously, yes. That makes a lot more sense. The font works by tweaking the appearance of certain letters of the alphabet that dyslexic people commonly misconstrue such as the old D&B problem. -Right. -That I every now and then have a problem with as well. Does that mean I'm dyslexic? -Could be. Yeah, it's interesting. I guess like the you know, through reading this article I learned that scientists sort of thought that it might be a visual issue before. Like you know, it might be an ocular problem, but actually it's not. It's something that goes on in your brain, yeah. -Yeah, you tweak letters that look like other ones like Ps and Bs, you flip them. -Yeah. -Ds and Bs rotate and things like that. -But do you do it where I-- I do it in vocabulary sometimes. -Like what? -I'll say like instead of coin toss, I'll say toin coss. -Oh, no. That's your stupidity. -That's not stupidity. -That medical condition. -I'll say boller rade instead of roller blade sometimes yeah. -All right. -Do I need to go to my doctor? -Talking too fast. -Yeah. -Yeah, went too many hockey things. -I think my mouth is moving faster than my brain there. -Yeah. What's wrong with you? -I think that's the problem with that. I don't know how that works. -You've never done that? -Never in my entire life [unk] and learn how to speak. -Never in your life had accidentally said something like that. -I may have. I know. -Yeah it happens, come on. -Yeah, right. -You know, sometimes just say toin coss and you're like end the toin coss and you're like, crap. -No, we do that when we read for our promo a lot. We do a like a promo for CBS. -Yeah A lot of we'll make that word. -Sure. -So, this is cool. So, basically, what he did here and we can actually look at picture. He elongated and stretched out the parts of the letters that are commonly confused. So, for example, he basically increased the boldness of the bottom of letters so that people known not to flip them upside down, like P and D. -Yeah. -So, he increased the leg on the bottom of the P, increased the neck on a B. -And it's working. -And it's working, yeah, and then he enlarges the openings of letters that are commonly confused like A and C, to make them wider on the inside. [unk] things like that and then lengthen the tail of Ds and Ls and Js and it is actually working. So, he's hoping to get it published in more places so that you could download it online. -That's cool. What's the name of the font? -It's called Dyslexie. Yeah. -That's mean. -Yeah. -Doesn't that sound-- that's mean, right? -It kinda sound like you may have found this somewhere. -Yeah. Oh, you're one of those Dyslexies? -Yeah. -You need this font. -Good luck reading this. -Yeah. -All right. Rock in roll. -Yeah. It's cool too because I'm actually trying to find the link right now but there's somewhere on here that allows you to install the Chrome extension that then makes everything you read online into the Dyslexie font. -Uh-hmm. -So, that's really cool. -Yeah, 'cause I was gonna say how do you get it so that it's everywhere? -Uh-hmm. -You know. From Dyslexic, which I might be now-- -I think you'd be. -I would want a way to filter out normal fonts and only view the world through Dyslexie. -Yeah, why not? Read everything. -Yeah. So, we'll learn how to do that. -Yeah. We'll follow that story. -All right. Here's an article that we're gonna talk about because it's on CNET and you would think it wouldn't be. I remember we're talking about Ben Hoffman that app called Bang with Friends? -Uh-hmm. -Yes. So, it's now on iPhone and it's on Android as well. -Oh, yeah. -Yeah, I thought this was gonna go away after two weeks. -It's not. -Like it was a joke app and then it would disappear but it turns out it's getting pretty popular. Reportedly the founders who have since remained anonymous, we still don't know who created Bang with Friends. They're pretty close to ceiling up $1 million funding deal for their startup. It's crazy. There's over 200,000 users right now. You wanna explain to people, Ariel, how this app works? -Why me? -Because I know you use it. -I don't use it but it's basically an app that syncs with you Facebook profile and it lets you choose each of your friends that you'll be Down to Bang. And then if they have the app and they select you, and you select them, and there's a match, it alerts both of you. But if there's no match, you're not alerted. -Okay. -And then you can proceed to bang. -So, is that-- -Pretend your fiancee isn't listening to this show right now. Have you actually used it? -I loaded it but I was too scared to try anything there. -You didn't click anyway? -I couldn't click it. -Okay. -Because I was like, what if it actually work, you know. -I feel like you're also skipping a few steps. -Yeah. -It's not like step one, step two, step three, bang. -Yeah. It's just like, you guys are ready. -I feel like there's like 18 in the middle there. -Right. You still gotta meet up in person afterwards. -Yeah. It's so awkward. -Oh and I wanna hear from somebody, man. I wanna hear from somebody that's used this and had a successful bang. -Like a successful bang. -Yeah. -Yeah, banged out. -Yeah. -So, the app actually has a few new features, of course, because not everyone wants to bang on their bed at home. Some people wanna bang in public. -Yeah. -So, the first feature is to undo a bang. Apparently, a lot of people were complaining because as they were selecting, they clicked the wrong person and you're not able to retract that afterwards. -That's bad. -I could imagine it would create a couple of awkward situations. -Yeah, I didn't mean to, dad. -Yeah. -Oh. -Would not bang. No offense. So, yeah, in case you accidentally clicked on someone, you can now undo a bang. The second feature is kind of interesting too and it's sort of the application's-- it's sort of their next step in trying to reach out to people that don't necessarily wanna bang but just wanna be friends. So, now you can do an Up to Hang. You can either select the Down to Bang or Up to Hang, and it's kind of like a friends first, pretty ugly but you're still got a good personality so we can hang out. -Just not gonna-- -Yeah, we're just-- yeah, we're just not gonna do the nasty. -Yeah. -Not this time. -Yeah. -You know, maybe if it goes well, then the next time. -Yeah. -We might get upgraded to Down. -Right. -But right now we're Up. -Exactly. -Which is weird because if you're already Facebook friends with somebody and you have to then request another friendship through Bang with Friends, I don't know. That doesn't make sense. -Like sending updates. I think this is making it way too easy for people, man. -Yeah. -No one is trying to finesse anymore. No one's having to like court someone. -Right. -You know what I mean? It's like, okay, instantly bang. -What happen to the [unk] start of the pickup line? -Exactly. -Yeah. -Exactly. We had to work four hours man. Not fair. -When I was-- is that gonna be the whole thing like talking to your kids? -Yeah. -When I was your age, I had to put in the time-- -Yeah. -I had to take someone out to dinner. -Exactly. -Really? -I had to use my hard earned cash, okay? -You guys will do all that. -I know. What happen to-- -You just got-- you're banging out-- -What happen to-- you wanna come back to my place and listen to some records? -Yeah. -That was always a good one, by the way. -That's the best. -Yeah, that was really good. -The romance is gone. -Yeah. -Romance is gone. -Yeah. -Romance is gone. -Really. -It's, you know, it's okay. So, where has all that energy? They would have been focused on the romanticizing. Where's that gonna go to? -Okay. Cupid I think. -Yeah. -You gotta convince people to do you online. At least you gotta write a letter. -Schnides in the chatroom says, "Man, I'd use this if I was in college. I guess." -I would too, man, if I was in college. -Yeah. You know why you would do, you would just try it out, like-- -It just can't be real, you guys. -Because you're a guy and guys will use every single tool in existence if it means that they'll take up one step closer to getting laid. -Yeah. -Well, think about how lopsided the gender representation is on something like this. -Yeah. -Yes. -Right? -Sure. -That was self-respecting woman who would partake in this. We can't-- that can't be happening. -Right. -I wouldn't think so. -Oh, no. -You don't know, you don't know. -Maybe. -I guess we'll find out. I wanna hear someone who has this successful bang experience. I wanna freaking here about it. -Yeah. I wanna hear that too. -Right now, it's like zero. -Yeah. I haven't heard anybody. -Right. I don't know. I don't know. All right. What else we got? I wanna-- you don't wanna talk about the movie script thing? -No, that one didn't end up being so great. -No. Okay. -Let's talk about a new trend in tech. This is the only serious text story that we have today. So, we might as well get through it right now. So, this is emerging trend in a tech marketing products, right? And that trend is basically providing free WiFi in exchange for your attention in looking at advertisements. And so, the first time that I heard about this was this South Korean agency, they put up a series of billboards to promote a movie. And what they did was they put a mini WiFi router within the housing of that advertisement in the billboard. -Okay. -Yeah. -Right? And if you stood next to the billboard, you would then be able to get access to their WiFi connection but before you could browse freely, you had to watch a trailer and check out some of the advertisements for the movie. So, that's really cool, you know, you're allowed to browse whatever you want afterwards. -And wy it says like the key when the trailer is over or something like that. -Right, yeah. Then it gives you a key after they accessed the router. So, now, Microsoft is the next one to jump onto this bandwagon. They have a new print ad in next month's special edition of Forbes Magazine. -Uh-hmm. -So, if you're still buying magazines, you can check out this ad. It's basically what you see here, a 4-page back-to-back-- it's 4 back-to-back pages with a super thin router and a battery house between it. Right? -And once activated, the users that are reading this can then get 15 days of free internet via T-Mobile. -Oh, wow. -And they can use that internet on up to 5 different devices but the caveat here is of course, you have to tear it around the magazine with the ad inside it with you. And so that's kind of a win-win situation, right? Forbes gets free marketing and advertisements by people holding the magazine, they get 15 free days of internet. -It's kinda smart. -Really smart. -That is very smart. -Yeah. Some people were questioning, oh, well, what's the battery life? You get about three hours of the this magazine, from battery sandwich between pages. -So weird. -But then there's also USB port-- -You can charge a backup? -inside. So, you could charge a backup as long as you have access to a computer. Plug your magazine into a computer. Isn't that weird? -Yeah, it's crazy. -Plug your magazine into a computer. That's what we're dealing with. -That's really cool, man. -Yeah. It's awesome. -Where did you get that? Where did you find that? -springwise.com. -That's awesome. -It's kinda cool, like an entrepreneurial website. -For sure, man. -This is what I was thinking, though, is that it's kind of this weird cyclical thing, right? Like you're kinda using a magazine and reading the ad to then go online and potentially read the same ad or read the same article that you were looking at in the magazine. -Right, yeah. -That doesn't make sense. Like if you had a computer already, why would you use internet? -It's weird. It's sort of paradox. -Yeah. -Yeah, I don't know. I don't know. I can't-- I don't have an answer for that. -It's hard to wrap your brain around this. -My head hurts just thinking about it, as what that is. -Yeah. -I don't know. All right. We're gonna get to some voicemails in just a second. First, I wanna talk about an e-mail we got from our buddy Bobby. My good friend Bobby out in Marietta, Ohio. You got this little image here him, buddy. -Uh-hmm. -So, Bobby is an artist and he has a company and if you didn't-- oh, I'll show you after we read this thing here. I know you guys are probably over this by now but I took a shot of where I watched the 404. I watched it with my iPad setup on the press, while I'm hand printing some posters for an upcoming sound garden show. -What? -Yeah. -So, check out this photo here. It's pretty red. You can see, so Bobby, he's an analog artist. He uses an old school 19th century press-- -Uh-huh. -That's awesome. -to make his-- oh, I have some of his stuff in my apartment as well. He's amazingly talented with his wife Sarah, they own a company called justAjar. So, go to justajar.com, you can buy some of their stuff. It's not high tech as most of the equipment from the shop. It's from the 19th century. -That's awesome. -So, it's like, where do you get that stuff? Does you have to like-- how did they get that stuff that's so old? That's what I need to know? Made me think about your beef with Apple holding back technology so people will buy the new product the following year. Back in the day, things were manufactured to last as long as possible. -Uh-hmm. -Oh, and one more thing. I heard you talking crap about how Philly sucks. I believe the last time you were there, though, you were visiting me and I showed you around. -Uh-oh. -Man, you're an insult. -But I didn't hear you join, well he's not-- he's not-- I've known Bobby for-- -That's awesome. I love it. -That's good. -I've known Bobby for 20-year, over 20 years. -You burnt. -No, he's just sticking around with me. He, you know, he went to school there, he went to art school there. So, he doesn't live there. He's not from Philly. He doesn't like Philly either. He's a devil's fan, he hates Philly, screw that. -Yes. -But he has a good time, I was cordial. -So, where did he take you? -He took me around to where it wasn't awful, you know, he took me to very few places. -Short trip. -It was really short. -Our new viewers, you better watch out. -Yeah, I know. -And Philly is a great city. Philly is just the epitome of class but not city represents. Anyway, Bobby, I love you buddy. Thanks for sending in the e-mail and that's pretty kick ass again. His site is really cool, justAjar.com. -Uh-hmm. -Go check it out. All right. We got some voicemails. Let's hit these up and then we'll finish things up on this Thursday. Calls from the Public Time. -Time to show the love. -Call me. -866-404-CNET. -The 404. -All right. Calls from the Public Time. Let's listen to a few things, what people gotta say we have been talking about earlier this week. Really weird, almost sort of alternate reality. Dave Chappelle's Spin-Off show called Buddies. Didn't know anything about it until Justin unearthed that-- -Uh-hmm. -he got it from some website and we had a guy calling and say, hey, man, I remember buddies. But this guy has even more insight, did even more research and I cannot believe what he found out. -Hi. This is Milwaukee from [unk] and I'm still catching up on episodes that have been-- -Here's the right one. -Hey, fellows. I'm [unk]. I was calling about the Chappelle's Show, Buddies Show there with Jim Breuer. -Yeah. -Don't ask me why I did this but I read Jim Breuer autobiography. -For a second, what do you that's called? -I don't know. -Whatever, man. What do you think that's called? Leap out, man. -Yeah. -I don't know what that's called, an autobiography. -And apparently, he was on the cover, a TV guy with Chappelle for that show and they again confirmed it like the last minute, like TV guy had a fall preview. -Uh-huh. -They were on the cover together like they were gonna be the next big thing and then bring it uphold before the show ever hit the air. And in that book he also said that the Buddies thing was on-- the Buddies Show was around before Home Improvement. They were on Home Improvement to promote it and spin it off. So, I don't know where the article came from but that's what I read, but maybe Jim Breuer is a stinky liar. -Uh-huh. -But he's a good boy and that makes him awesome. Peace. -Yeah, he's a good boy. -Wait, so he's saying that-- -He's saying-- I'm sorry. -Buddies preceded Home Improvement, -Yeah. -but they were using the show as an advertisement for it. -Right. Which is believable. -Yeah, it's blown my mind. -Because think about it, like how do you get a spin off from being on a show for 30 seconds? -Yeah. -Right? -Right. -That doesn't make any sense. -Yeah. -So, that means it was-- no, that doesn't make sense. -Someone's lying here because Home Improvement was on in 1991. So, this thing-- -Right. That someone-- when would that episode didn't air in '91? -No. -That episode had aired much later. -Yeah. But Home Improvement came first. -Right. -It's gotta have come first. -Right, right. So, it doesn't-- but it sounds like the show-- he's saying the show-- -The [unk] came before their print. -preceded that episode where they're on, -Right, right. -which would make a lot more sense. -Uh-hmm. -So, basically, it wasn't really a spin off. -It wasn't a spin off. -It was more of a like introducing a new show. -Right. It was a way to like plant them in on two-time. -Oh, that's pretty smart. -Yeah, to get everyone excited about it. They wanted-- this is before viral was a thing. They wanna do that. -You know, if they do that sitcom now, I think everyone would watch it. -Oh my, God. It'd be the best-- -With Dave Chappelle and Jim Breuer. -Oh, are you kidding? -I would watch that everyday. -It'd be the best and get Guillermo Diaz, I know why you're addict to have Scarface and you might as well just call it, I don't know. Let's do it. -Yeah, should be. -Have Stephen right on there too. I would love that. -Yeah. -All right. Thanks for the call, man. Really interesting stuff. We're also talking earlier in the week about Xbox getting banned on Xbox. Apparently, this is a common thing and a few of our listeners have been banned on Xbox. Here's a guy that says something in his bio made it happen. -Hey, guys. This is [unk]. I was calling about Jeff talking and Justin talking about getting banned from Xbox Live the other day. Just so you never have been, well, I've been banned three times. Once I wanna-- -Good hat trick, good for you, dude. -Congrats. -What you gotta do, got to be friends with a buy that was using standby back in the Halo 2 Online games, -Uh-hmm. -and I got banned for that. It was a two-week ban and then I-- -That was like a way to cheat, or cheat on Halo I guess. -Was banned twice and various times but something in my profile, my bio, they wouldn't tell me what it was and when I was banned, I couldn't access the Xbox platforms. So, I couldn't even find out what it was until I had actually got reinstated. So, that's kinda crappy the way they do it for you. But anyway, I was wondering, Jeff, if you knew what was gonna happen when the new Xbox comes out? Is your existing Xbox Live account gonna work? Just curious. Love the show, guys. Thanks. -I mean, we don't know but I can almost 100% guarantee you that will be the case that'd be absolutely insane to not do that. -Uh-hmm. -Dude, but going back with your profile. I mean, if it was in your bio, what do you have in your bio, man? -Yeah. -Like, I think it would be pretty self-explanatory what's getting you banned, you know. -He left that part out. -Yeah. -He's not telling us story. -That's what I wanna know, man. Call back. Why were you getting banned? Like I don't know why I got banned, I just said, you know, something awful. -Right. Like what could have been? -Yeah. -Yeah, a bunch of things running through my head. -Right. I just don't get it. -I wanna see it. -Like, you know. -Yeah. -Dude, so, maybe go back and think about what was in your profile and maybe tell us what it is. -Uh-hmm. -And we'll go ahead and guess and see what it was that got you banned. We will just make an educated guess, you know, I don't know. -Yeah. -But I'm curious. -Something [unk] need one guess. -Yeah. -That's it. -It's gotta be like a lyric or something like that. -Maybe. -Or a declarative statement or some sort. -Yeah or something. If you have hate in your profile, it's probably the one following you. -But we're messing around, though, but-- -Yeah. -dude, you know, speaking of ridiculous things in your Xbox things and all that. This is the guy who got banned or his username. So, well, here the username and then I guess we can all decided whether or not this was a bannable username. -Yeah. -Let's listen to this. -Hi, 404. This is [unk] from Israel. I was listening to yesterday's show talking about getting banned from Xbox Live. And I actually got temporary ban from Xbox Live for about a couple of years ago, I don't remember. But it was for my gamer tech which was xnegrodamus. So apparently, some people found that offensive and I guess they didn't like Chappelle's Show. All right. -So, that comes back to Chappelle. -Yeah. -It's what this all is. -Censored. -Yeah. Negrodamus, that's what he asked, Negrodamus is what his thing was. -Yeah, yeah. -And he got banned. I don't think that's a bannable name, do you? -I don't think so either. -I guess it depends on his race. I guess if he is black, then it's probably okay. If not, probably not okay. -Well, we don't know that. -Yeah. So, it's hard to tell. But-- -But neither did an Xbox, no way. -Yeah, there's no way to tell online either. -I guess, like he said, they just weren't an Xbox-- they weren't a Dave Chappelle fan. -Right. -Yeah. -That's pretty funny. Oh, man. There's-- I've seen some terrible names. The worst and you guys don't know about this, when you play Call of Duty, -Uh-hmm. -you can design your own in game icon. Right? So, they gave you this like set of clipart and you can just sort of manipulate and do stuff and make it so like you have your own icon. And of course, people are very creative, -Yeah. -and they create everything under the sun. And I know you can get like sort of banned through that as well but that's different, that's separate from your Xbox identity. -Uh-hmm. -So, yeah. -So, will it continue that, where it'd be seen now? -Well, I mean, like, what do you-- literally, like I said, everything under the sun. -Okay. -Think it. Think something awful -Yeah. -And some [unk]. -Okay. -Like you can do any sort of anything. Now you get it. -Oh, yeah. Oh, that's bad. -Yeah. -Yeah. -So, like, you-- if you're gonna think and you can make it, 'cause they give you-- they give you a well rounded enough set of tools to do it. -Awesome. -So, you could just make whatever you can think. -So, it's like emoticons, kinda where-- -Exactly. -Okay. -But they're not even that specific. -Uh-hmm. -They're not even just like smiley faces. They're just like shapes and you can zoom in and out as much as you want and then they have you letters and then they just give you like, oh, it's just-- -Yeah, Jewel and Charms 'cause I've seen so many swastikas on there. -Oh, my God. That's like-- well that's-- 'cause that's so freaking easy to do. -Yeah. -Man, if you're doing swastika, you are so freaking uncreative. -Yeah. -Get a new symbol of hate, will you please? -Yes. -Swastika is just so 2008. Come on. Finally, we're gonna talk about Ariel in a little bit and his music and this dude who wants to just straight up give you money. -Oh. I'll take it. -Hey there, guys. This is Boston from [unk], a long-time fan of the show. So, Ariel makes music, right? So, Ariel, if I wanted to give you money for your music, where would I go? Thanks, guys. Love the show. -Wow. That's an interesting question. I've never been asked that before. -Yeah. -The first thing you can do is just send us, how much are these? Forty bucks each? -Yeah, $45 with shipping. -Forty-five dollars and we'll send you his release from last year, which is called Out of You. -Out of You. Yeah. -Uh-hmm. -This is pretty-- this is the hotness right here. -Yeah. -But there's real ways that people can pay for your music, right? -Yeah, so that's up on like everywhere. It's on the Amazon, iTunes, -Yeah. -and any digital music platform. You could pay for it there but, I mean, but you could download it for free. -No, no, no, no, no. -No, dude. Don't-- -Come on, man. -I'm not even about like-- like right now, I'm not yet-- I mean, I'm not-- okay, I'm not gonna turn away money but-- -But if you wanna donate to the cause that you can continue making more free musics-- -Right. -So, you just buy it online. -Yeah. -Buy it online. -That's how you really help. -Yeah. -And then I'll use that money to press my next CD or something, you know what I mean. -Right. -So, I appreciate it. Thank you. -How many of these did you make? -We did I think-- it was like 1200 or something like that. -Damn, it's awesome. -A lot. Yeah. -It's really nice. -They came out last year. -It's nice. -Thank you. Yeah, my-- one of my friends took the cover picture. Yeah, we had like a lomo camera. -Right. -And then we just walked around Chinatown in San Francisco and just went crazy. This cool picture is on the inside too. -That's cool. -Yeah. And we're gonna give some away on the show. -Yeah. -So, stay tuned. -So, if you watch live, yeah, we'll make it part of like The 404 prize pack. How cool is that? -Yeah. It's awesome. -So, what are we waiting for? -Yeah. -I don't know. All of a sudden Ariel is like, dude, I got 4,000-- -Yeah. I can get one everyday. -I'm horrible at promoting my own music. -Yeah. -I'm like after I make it, like there's only two songs on there that I'm like, wow, I was amazing on this. -Yeah. -But the rest, I feel like I can do better now. You know what I mean? -All right. Well-- -But I mean, that's just any kind of artist-- -Not that-- yeah, not that you can do better but you grow as an artist. -Exactly. -Then you can, you know, not that it's not good. -Exactly. -I mean, man, you really don't wanna promote yourself at all. -Yeah. I mean this is-- it's my-- I mean, don't get me wrong. I love the album. -Yeah. -I'll still listen to it but you know, as an artist, I wanna do more. -Someone get this guy-- freaking amateur. -Yeah [unk] publicist. I know. We need publicist. -I know. -And we could do that for you. You know what we should start doing is giving them a way at the end of every month. -That's what I'm saying. -For people that win the show title competition, that's the least we can do. -Yeah. -The least we do. -So-- -And I guess today we'll take submissions from all venues. -Yeah. -Yeah, all right. More on that when we're off the air here. That's gonna do it for us, guys. 866-404-CNET, give us a call. Let us know what you think of the show or you can reach out through e-mail, firstname.lastname@example.org. We'll be back here tomorrow finishing up the week. Some programming notes about next week that I think we need to let everyone know a few days in advance. There's no show Monday. -Yes. -There's no show a week from tomorrow. All right. So, just have that going. We're gonna have Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday of next week and Justin's not gonna be here. -Yeah. I'm gonna be gone all week. So, you're probably gonna get some people to fill in for me I'm assuming. -Oh, will I ever? -All right. -You have very tiny shoes to fill. So-- -I'll be tuning in. -Literally, I think you're-- -Yeah. -No, but you'll be tuning in from afar. So, we appreciate that, man. -I will bet there. -Every little bit. -[unk] spirit. -Absolutely. So, that does it for us today. Thanks for tuning in live here on-demand. We'll see you tomorrow. I'm Jeff Bakalar. -I'm Justin Yu. -I'm Ariel NuÃ±ez. -This has been The 404 Show. High tech, low brow. Have an awesome Thursday. We'll see you tomorrow. Later.