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It's Wednesday April 27 ten -- avenue listening he -- in CNET cellphone podcast. I am senior associate editor Nicole Lee -- doing here in -- you. By and I can't gin and I -- -- deputies to Stephen. And we are joined by Jessica don't -- not in studio but in you -- the part about. I can't even now Jessica Cooper -- and product I -- And taking her studio and saying hi to her man and are you Bonnie tree stand in her apartment soon. Iowa it's a casino link in an agent and I put a bit -- a doctorate. Of varying meet cubicle I have to say it. And -- -- -- something have a decent spring cleaning. Can you do something to that USC. Basketball things -- It's like cover that up her -- I really remember seem that anywhere. And some Mexican maybe it hasn't and -- president. NASA and angry you feelings and maybe that's that's our honor and I by the united politely -- -- and the fact. Yes the bunnies on vacation today and hopefully she's having a great time at a time. Just get you missing our studio I -- -- it at them as an -- that's how halo lava -- the corner. The -- in today's cup holders. I might -- that maybe extend your game and at that. And so -- every morning before story wanna hear about your journey mr. Oh my god at -- -- I don't. So basically I get this free ticket through southwest which means bad because it's part of the old -- -- means I can only fly during the worst possible times. I have this terrible delay about as prolonged because. I was going through Chicago midway. And I guess the -- -- really short and earned and the plane overran the runway and then after that they believe everybody was fine. They use these mobile staircases -- to get everyone around but of course I didn't hear about those that just notice that. Every flight with -- -- and trying arrived at five. And I ended up leaving hours and hours after it's just any woman -- in my head didn't pillar in -- until orient now. Our own if I suddenly can't Allen Lichter in the podcast you'll know I don't -- how did you get into the city. I captain and a point and you can't stand it it's only in the morning announced yet. Yeah yeah the runways are very short there actually has the second southwest went over time program there. But you should just -- I was basically surrounded by this fortress of technology. I had you know mobile hot a laptop in a -- -- Several phones around mean. QWERTY everywhere is imminent as oversize chairs and actually in protecting myself from the island -- I register their in the way -- Yeah I get through mid random enough to stop and and can mean hang out for awhile -- -- a few of the fifth if you said by the window on your way back to midway and -- about -- window and just looked down at how close you -- over the houses as you view and -- As you -- has only one square mile by one square miles so. And it's yes the original airport and sir if you look at on -- -- Google Maps to see it's like a big axe the replacement yet you go right over these people's house you can see down in the Guardsmen. You you look like you're gonna -- this you know -- -- and and you just menu at the friendliness of its its pretty crazy airport. -- -- -- glad you got. You can't just sent out finally got -- yes it's definitely get being that your right safe and sound. -- Well. Save enough to Nesbitt a -- to -- the latest. -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- Economy after just leaks these past few weeks so the first phone to talk about is the HTC Droid incredible to. That will launch -- Thursday. Yes out of we've been hearing about this for awhile. And again of their very quickly dismissed them here it is and its announcements coming on Thursday. A so it is a four inch LCD display one gigahertz -- -- process and fry your own which. You know the -- in Japan. Time yeah about that -- should be has three G mobile hot spied. -- its ports defined by for a device to aid maintenance to camera one point three front facing camera. And it is. 2199. With a two year contract and launching tomorrow. So funny is welcome back from vacation present in the planning agency -- incredible two to -- -- -- about today in her office. -- -- -- Let us somebody enemy packets are in her right I -- -- to commitment how am I her little -- earlier and equipment business almost a charge. Looks like -- -- he -- economy you know I don't think it's huge difference and design -- from the old company has updated feature Jason looks PD. Cool and apparently a big fan of their original Incredibles -- I think I think he was a great phones so -- latest -- -- -- and down next phone I think could be very exciting especially to sprint customers is that the nexus asked -- -- Hasn't been announced and you'll be going for Sprint's into a compatible with -- four G network of clients. It will be engraving on me -- -- a 200 dollar when the -- sort of price tag. Looks by the same specs right. Yeah yeah that's the thing we can it is of course the first. CD main nexus device consumers must for everyone and then when -- was on the Nexus One -- the counselor -- is the first four G nexus two -- Time. You can't compare and that's an incredible Theo and -- those things like much better deal. Yes sinister grin. As you progress under Brad and I got four G well. Those in the -- and now. By now. Now it is a defense energy reaches and other -- -- incredible to Vera. It is a global is -- -- -- -- device. Oh. And and institute so. To this one has you know they disable features like science -- make a pixel. About a rear camera and and a front facing VG candidates and end of course he has an exe and the original and -- and -- -- -- Which doesn't know wants you right now but it inability -- in the future absolutely at a -- it definitely means. Especially as more manufacturers adopt an FC. This dismember this is a stark Android experience though. Advocates and different different different nations and it is. Coming down vote on the eight and it is going to be an -- well. -- just be the sneak in subsequent that the -- yes could be that. Those speaking of this and that is is another thing that will also be around 199 and this -- the -- you. Easy one -- cases. The jokes. Passages that this one that when it tried. Be a few months and -- -- line. Have given I had a flavor enhancement of NEA's said they did you want commandos. It's Canada I I have I have ethnic and edit them in it but at its. It's the first ever -- Casio. And has a touch screen phone and everything comedy has Android two point -- And it also boasts interest in any sort of robust security features -- what they cast you press he says. -- supply corporate email and some other features include Wi-Fi a five megapixel camera on the back at. Now the night stand -- DPS. And the ability to act as a mobile hot spot missed -- he implant devices. -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- Rugged devices military spec you know it's -- it's an idea of hazards like -- durable construction. Water food binge and it -- mission -- that. And so that's kind of interest EB one. I think it free and both have looked at rugged phones before and most of time that are really small faces in there really basic in the big selling point is the rubberized body and -- -- -- -- Resistance and restraints and in an urgent and everything like that -- amazed fifty something offer -- that has the brain in addition to the brawn. Bright in the it it does have all of those Android features and also -- -- it's pretty tough opponent but he said there aren't that many Smartphones that can see their -- durable. So this is definitely for the it was a comes with a bunch of like -- door. Kind of apps like booking counter at the -- and. That timing. Is going to be outdoors and you're gonna wants to take advantage of Google Maps and turn by turn navigation you're gonna want backed companies are gonna want the big screen to Spain where you -- and it it does have -- the Verizon could include blue where situations that you have to use Bing. You know and as that view vcast apps and it. This you aren't in there is -- -- -- that's a little bit denying that in if you need some A unit an Android and it looks very. Promising I think we'll have that in from the next weeks. Began to. Try it out. And but it can sit ST points you not to point three however. If you do you -- 2.3 gingerbread phones. We did get a few tweets from -- mobile scene of that -- the T-Mobile G two acts. Might soon get V Condit and -- pre meeting to -- update. Again no specific days and we always less specific needs of queries but these are VCs say it's coming soon. Be here any day now. In that you why isn't it you today that completely about where you -- Coming soon an air -- at -- has about as much specificity as Ford G movement who wrote what apparently -- Iran mean that could be a date to -- you know -- you don't already know what that is. But however and we believe -- -- said -- -- testing it with in Japan mean that mixes them to meet it with at least test it. Prior to launch if it testing it I think -- meant I think he. -- Nicole actually -- -- -- asking if that ministers to talk. Push to talk he from what I understand in the specs didn't say that but you know I would ex it would have missed out because it is C. The rugged phone and most of cash used credit for those do you have to talk back. I don't know I -- to test adds to that. No actually that's -- point eight -- And Scott Webster -- in the -- -- little compost -- about -- -- updates for all with a different. BJ and -- food manufacturers. Quite around that yeah. -- -- Motorola Samsung LG HTC hands. Just give as little expect expectations about when we might see. Some dates you know unfortunately we don't -- a specific as far as he's insane and -- -- here's a calendar but. -- going to devices still need to be updated. -- and it should play as -- is to have that suffer a great page on its forums -- -- have -- -- -- inadequately -- Wouldn't exactly now what's going on -- -- and of course have had a spotty history moto -- phones like the -- What the -- the -- of the -- aside brandish their start time. -- yet there is some phones they're just not live definitely can not when. Gently -- -- -- -- you're gonna have then and handwriting. Almost but not -- And so we might see. -- hope we'll see the myTouch four G fairly soon. -- -- evo four G that undervote. Both -- supposed to have a -- ended June hand and that will write a guess of their no quote and -- quote no major setbacks. Droid incredible. Also think of an agreement for gingerbread but we stone and it's coming but in two weeks sexually. Two weeks and today and may tenth to eleventh is -- I am so mean to see some announcements while -- a thin. It is. If you may see some announcements there but of course there will be on the street here in San Francisco -- world. When you used on line. Yet you know I think if you did you want a phone to get the latest -- the note the dates and -- -- in the same week. Unity do you need to get one of those phones with the stock Android it's used right in -- -- also this -- something out -- Google's flag yet found. It does seem like. That seems like that's what they're gonna -- you know. -- -- will get the for the first crack it any patent math. Yes so that's going on here -- -- can't you read this article about digging through eighteenth he's in recent it's. And FCC -- management -- the lights 381 pages long. So. And -- actually read and 308 and I don't know if you were drifting ice. Said -- actually I mean I I've read pretty quickly I didn't read each paragraph Rivera -- the first few graphs that -- the and I and then I went back nine. -- just went to the interest sections beats page and look to the major arguments but there's a pretty amusing document because it's 300 my pages and this is a redacted documents that means that -- the -- Usually hear that the word and use single problem. Here's another amusing and 380 when he does in the same -- well there are some pretty funny things -- here. It and this article I have to say -- is -- amazingly. You have to -- is like meet -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- Just as we -- wireless is you know and missing AT&T has helped lead America's mobile broadband revolution. And to wear it once and really create itself from tele technology we now itself. You know where the authorities here -- -- the going to -- they're in trouble we're -- capacity constraints. And actually accurate and -- looking at that exact thing today is AT&T'S argument is that. We don't have the capacity for LTE -- -- what work were under attack we we don't have what we need to roll -- service and -- give us support the calls we mean. Because those evil data -- -- using open data with their Smartphones by the T-Mobile give us that. So Maggie Reardon has execs when residents true -- -- -- and I'm and then it goes incidents pages and pages and pages and white T-Mobile stinks -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- bring quiet I don't know why are now if they're terrible so you get by the rotting -- you do you get the end of this thing you know like. Really so why do you want the thing even if they haven't. All the spectrum and we're not like cell. Let's see. T mobile's absence from the marketplace will not have a significant competitive impact. -- T-Mobile and AT&T are not close competitors. The extent T-Mobile is now strive for relevance in this increasingly competitive market. AT&T does not believe that this team has particularly compelling compelling portfolio of Smartphones -- my jaw dropped and -- I doubt there's a lot of cats in here and they can only one. AT&T T-Mobile. -- AT&T tracks T mobile's activities it is not -- team mobile is a close competitor Matalin -- image -- content. Goes right so that's why you bought them yet and -- and so there's so many other GSM competitors in the US yet. And to an extent -- more competitor. -- what extent yes Verizon is AT&T is closer competitor but -- gonna make it seem like Cincinnati bow. Has had is a bigger competitor at and T-Mobile. Oh come on -- cellular south and I'm not deny that you know -- on the -- -- how well it. Once national carrier and one other regional there's a Houston data he'd -- heaped praise on -- and ceremonies. They say that well we're under attack because sprint has those -- -- data plans as we you have unlimited data plans which you took him away so it's like -- Let us not forget AT&T had -- that -- it gallons. And be -- -- really believe reduce them to to make to -- gigabytes. And they say that sprint has always great but it's discrete phones they -- words of justice he has at their arrogance -- are at CES and C two but of course AT&T -- it -- The H tricks the best CES award -- -- I took a little personally -- but -- they're gonna say democracy mergers patriotic. Has opening. I've -- residents for -- -- just Telecom under US ownership. Riot okay we -- watching Oklahoma America you know. This is I mean. You just go on and on and on the -- -- Really and then a couple of fact that they throw out your AT&T is basically -- -- -- they -- and talking -- about how. -- What's -- -- this African American and Hispanic communities have excelled in their adoption of mobile broadband services in both groups take advantage -- a much wider racks are wider array of phones. And their white counterparts AT&T'S LT initiative will USB key part of keeping -- -- -- -- groups and the leading to prevent pollution. Hunt a sort of where you pulling -- -- -- an Angel. They go and -- this business about how comparing data usage and phone usage rates between different different from different ethnic groups. And an eight. Kind of say that the merger will help people. Certain people get better data I don't it's charging them or you're just you just get to -- into this thing like. Where who will moderate who sat around -- wrote that. I mean. I think you could have just said the -- all of this in autumn under patent means servicemen. Basically this is just sort of political propaganda they probably went and hired and the -- speechwriter rain out over speechwriter from the land is -- -- a government way to get lobbyists and there's well I can't they have AT&T and I'm gonna be look at the system a couple of races. Next couple weeks I was -- -- amount of -- -- and in Washington -- and always a happy. -- -- -- -- So anyway it's just for -- -- take a look -- pulled out answers a question if you want you can dig through you can go to the PDF and you can dig through the whole thing I mean as sort of you know. After awhile but -- in its interest -- -- But spectrum -- check back with initiatives and accurate exploit. In it it's definitely very fascinating article again and again inside -- Of how these things -- it I mean it's. And until you insert C readers in the hole right a thread comment thread about are going back and forth about -- And -- that you don't we checked the post on -- comments to it and testing. Submitting -- budget of slightly happier news here Google Voice for sprint this finally live but overall people right. -- -- -- -- Google and sprint haven't officially made this integration -- -- this is when that was announced -- ETA in Orlando last month. But Google has gone ahead and rolled it out for -- -- about half of its beta users so you be able to see that notification fan and then. In their in the future in the coming weeks it's gonna be rolled out from our people so we have a hard time getting confirmation and that finally dead from Google. And -- pretended like it was no big deal even at sprint this sort of way we're not gonna announce anything and we don't comment on speculation or rumors. I'll buy it and -- that congratulations if you have sprint and you -- start seeing and if you're not a Google Voice user. The starting prompts that if you are also -- -- -- -- about it over and users -- number as -- Google Voice number if you have. Yet. That it's a pretty good feature in -- Is helpful for sprint needs all the help they can get Italy and this at this time altogether and communities -- -- I think it's pretty awesome. -- -- -- So this severity and -- -- shows and -- -- -- -- Andrea article here. Am I -- last week and it was in light the -- Wiki today which -- Allison Lee Rudy McCollum. A really great Android. And -- is thinking that you -- So many -- proposal was every other week it's -- not everyone of them kind of stands out. And it allows it don't mean I just compile a few features that style look and the general look -- I'm in -- indecent Android. The first that I thought its atom design. Every. -- right now he seems like kind of look the same -- have the same slab like design and everything. I think in London that this small differences counts that the display needs to be. At the very least the capacity of touch screen into the glass display needs to be done. An overall I think for example if -- compare the he will -- G two XP one -- that they did the Samsung galaxy phones for example the -- -- feels more solid it feels more premium in the hand. And I do the something galaxy phones they just -- it more plastic for some reason they did -- absolutely. -- So I think you know -- great display of crisis and it's this is pretty and artist as development. This hike graphics -- video linking these days so that's it was very welcome. And the next thing that Palestinian -- was -- a very simple in -- -- and we understand why. It HTC Motorola they wanna make it in faces a different from the from the competitors I understand that -- but it. The clutter it up with too many different little gadgets images -- it's not really what I want from an Android found kind of want to make clean interface. On the specialty you know that the benefit of that especially is that usually get a stock Android experience as stock Android phones -- -- -- it generally get up. -- It is I think an important -- and as well you eat it you don't want a joint -- -- mission -- the -- -- the get in -- for the effort. And then I think get their -- in part -- assistant DeSoto. And get the Android phones and out it just kept -- high tech -- in need to be d'alene isn't really is although that does help. -- someday make a dual core processor Adobe saw a lot in recent phones are really good although lead is each dvd -- -- processor intensive schemes. That the standards are always -- GPS Bluetooth Wi-Fi. I think these days if particle when I can really outstanding. And you need to get that mobile Wi-Fi hotspots apart. -- -- You do at least want to get or G and I know you don't need for a TVs days -- it for a phone to view the beef fugitive I think you really do need that -- -- supply. You know any. I'm not entirely convinced that a higher megapixel is that much better. I get it megapixel is not necessity battered and I am at the -- -- I don't think anyway. But at no it doesn't have to do so much with not about the so now I'm gonna throw at the -- to the sensor in the lens and I think -- those if the money the money was. With allocate it to as the sensor in the man's march to its. And less to has beaten the high of megapixels -- -- that would make more sense this while. -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- As that and the last few points I'm very basic. Good battery life. Decent price is very basic and that a few comments at -- -- very interesting as well. One of the the most. Interesting comments request payment updates at the mention -- news outlets his article just getting that out the no not months down the road but hopefully -- in the first man. You know I don't. I don't think that's really fair because you're talking about the recipe for successful Android phone when -- now available well. You're not necessarily in a cell phone as we discussed in the past and who's taking responsibility for update that the thing that comes later. So although that's ninth I don't think that's gonna get -- by the owner and I mean if anything image image science that last little while other times they think you know. What are your choices if you go for that premium and high you know the high end hardware. Then you're picking my hardware and maybe by price and -- not necessarily getting a choice of what that operating systems. In and that's very -- -- Although -- idea say for example that if you would -- you would begin mediating Motorola H expresses. The -- -- noted that nexus S for example and even H it technically has more specs and hit the dual processors all these other features -- -- that topped up in on that. The more little cooler in -- think it's just that much of a barrier for me personally and I probably wouldn't get it over the nexus that's. -- -- but then that's that's including personal choice of chorus but you know sometimes that -- blurs the offices not. So basically. It -- pretty much described a high end phone -- all the premium phones but I have to say when I reviewed says Samsung galaxy prevail. But as the months more entry level -- -- than some of these but I would argue that it mostly fits -- With all of your criteria you know it looks good it looks and feels more premium and it really is I think it kind of resembles the G -- -- actually. And so it it's got all of those touches by the processor isn't as fast the battery life project red. It's fatter and fatter it's just. In Arabic terrorist acts are and is dead in and the photos regardless of the megapixels the photos aren't as clear or as impressive that they could be. However -- and you never know the hot spot is disabled. However with the price seeing and everything like that with its mobile really can have -- -- Everything like that you know all of those other considerations they still think that is -- successfully entry found for the category for the Democrat voted for the category for the carrier especially name. The Kerry got its hands down their message. Absolutely. So you wanna tell us what you want to be successful in Britain should check out this blog posts and he was content. And then next we have our reviews but before we get to them -- and interpret. And their back. And so let's move on to review its. And of the first phone we have here is the -- -- eat. He this speed is at a phone made out of meat from -- which is a sort of they add a -- Some of and that at and Amaya Amy based company's -- obesity saw the phone at seek yanked by Jessica you side mostly. And yet you can hear me -- me. Okay -- I did yet. -- -- -- -- -- -- Yes Sony -- speed adequately it is a it is basically a messaging phone button at the event of a few very important -- Which is very interesting it's international's well. And is a front facing VGA camera. To -- very odd for a clinical messaging phone does have Skype mobile and opera mini four browser Wi-Fi an FM radio and even of all things an e-book reader. Packed with -- -- of all things right so this isn't ostensibly aim messaging featured because. -- it is I have no Android there are islands or anything -- its -- proprietary OS and you know. By the looks of -- kind of cheap flimsy construction -- a phone. Does -- fuel mitigated and really. And that optical not to from getting used -- it looks okay I think it's I think that's not right. Coke well I I tried -- with both AT&T and Google because yet the -- sim cards. Call cloudy with a -- -- about may be a little bit sharper with AT&T but not by much. You know the -- a low carbohydrate but it's only a 150. Dollar. And that's on -- -- But all of these crazy and is until some cartoon her -- -- dual sim card he can use -- difference in accident and its its quad band. I I think it's only meet the eighteen PPT -- not the T-Mobile three -- and but you can use three G on it now if it's like you want. So an interesting phone. And Jessica. You look at maybe not such a great -- This is the lieutenant is basically. The recipe for how to make a really terrible injury. So how you -- it is you give it a small resistant touch screen. Give it slow process there and that. Makes you way to beat -- you before -- you can accomplish any tasks. Download the super -- to exam give it a really cheap build quality. And -- call quality absolutely terrible and other -- And so I I would say -- is still and market if you absolutely have to have an unlocked GSM phone. It is 170 dollars and that's not bad considering that a lot of other unlocked I forgot to mention its entry to -- -- So a lot of other Android -- in our our -- me a lot of other Smartphones. Especially the more higher and land unlocked Indy 50600. Dollars so this is Otellini in -- -- -- another and this is twenty dollars more -- thirty dollars more. Then this high end feature phone. For a smart -- that -- -- -- -- view. More features but I just have to say that. The user experience was really. Uncomfortable I guess -- -- -- economy me wanna -- the -- -- immediately and pick up something else. Maybe that just means that I'm spoiled to be around so many nice -- However I think that if you are in the US and you have choices something like. In at the Samsung jam that was another fairly inexpensive and it's thirty dollars on contract spent at a much better device. Now we're saying that they're using the same factory is as Samsung Motorola HTC in all of the heavy hitters. Their products are. Obviously inferior so. And so it's easily hints -- -- an -- three U resistant touch screen. A redundancy and it's resistant -- it -- that it's just really bizarre -- -- -- -- in app because it's so small all the keyboards are really cramps. I have better like using my fingernails and actually -- it there's just no accuracy and in -- about why bother. That's the two -- review why -- at the -- on him. It -- annex -- to go look at the National Geographic Explorer. -- yes that. Starred review will be up later today but there's clarity -- video and -- slide show. And basically this is an interesting its -- and have it with means. Eaten yet but this sort of -- phone s.'s Samsung beat when he 100 extreme public and Texas hold up a little from. Have there again yesterday and though -- give -- the world but it didn't live a little bit -- -- -- a little bit more. -- -- bag number I I had a minor should be actually there yeah aren't gonna see here we can see different. -- so this product -- as well. And -- -- authority on the market as a -- globally it's known as something else and it kind of thing co opted by this grant -- abroad that has inserted. A sim card to help travelers out and has branded it with it and the National Geographic name. But the phone comes with two phone numbers one for you -- -- pretty US so that people can reach you on an anytime making collier US number and it'll be free of charge for them. On and they can collier UK number depending on where you are not really meant for use in the US it -- the prepaid. Phone so that ideas that you go -- you travel but let's say if you're in -- it anywhere in North America your family can still reach you. For free by calling. And then that cost comes out of your prepaid allocation. So it is really pricey which -- kind of -- bomber. And buy it and and that I think would deter a lot of people you know especially if you've got other solutions if you've got a GSM and already Ares V party got a smart and -- -- -- and abusing. -- -- And that might -- -- permanent sentences. Maybe you know closer to you. A dollar permanent it dollar fifteen per minute for making calls out and the precious goes -- if you're calling area and if somebody called you on the US number. That's gonna cost you automatically when he five cents -- minute whereas using another calling service 25 cents a minute. Mining -- EU. Called Q&A mobile phone rather than landline. So it is really praise either stayed on it that's really pretty scene kind of hard for me to set up here in the US because it's really not intended for US travel. So I am gonna be taking it with me any European -- summer -- they'll be able to test that in the field. So that will be really interesting but I gave. -- is so many organs kind of ties -- to my travels story. I view was they believe it here because I'm seeing them -- -- -- come over from grief. And I wasn't able to call my friend on her cell -- I pulled out this and I was able to actually connect up with herself and you know calling out. So that's about -- ninth and I ain't got a door open for me aren't mourning him and -- I was telling. Her in her -- this this morning you know others found and it really saved me. And I hold it up and one of the -- was like I have that phone. Link I don't know if you did you know you have those aren't thinking about the sim cards that should like yeah and she goes and her bag and you pulled out an identical found her work and gave her -- chemical engineer said that those wet her office gave her as a rugged phone increase. And because they and drop and all the time -- grade in there are no problems like daddy every of the flash relations like -- sure that -- little flash. About. And there it's it's I mean the rugged phone -- kind of a neat idea -- the travel but it is pretty costly and while I think there is used -- I think it's sort of more it's more amendments really. But it it is ready means solution and merely regular reader in -- Yet and if it if I live there in the pleasant thought I give her photographer in music I like it in -- it's just. When of those things but and there we have it I'll have more details and a review that will come up later today as if you're interested in and announced for the phone then come and check back on it later. And I very again. Be too much train -- -- -- today we have a little -- and is he gets you. After the show he -- But if you want to leave as an email making Bethany do that -- -- and addresses down at cnet.com can also call -- At 1866. Or -- zero TT 638. For all our show notes and past episodes Stephanie goatee -- in dot cnet.com. And for all other CNET podcast seeking unity. Podcast dot cnet.com. That's it for the sheriff is attacking end I ever in Indiana thanks Jessica.