Comedian Blake Wexler's album was almost ruined by cats (Tomorrow Daily 372)
On today's show we deep dive into scientists using HoloLens to traverse Mars, a really cool robot MVP for the Pittsburgh Steelers, and also the sort of terrifying augmented reality movie that we talked about earlier this week.
Also, stand up comic Blake Wexler stops by to talk about self creating
his first stand-up album.
It's going to be really exciting show.
Also I'm going to ask this guy what he thinks of both VR headsets thus far in the race for VR.
Are we in VR right now?
I shouldn't be here.
I need to be back to VR.
Yes, tomorrow daily.
Greetings citizens of the internet, welcome to Tomorrow Daily, the best geek talk show in the known universe, now actually a talk show.
I'm Ashley Esqueda.
And I'm Jeff Cannata.
Sorry I wasn't here all week.
No it's all good.
I said you were out on assignment.
You were doing-
Flying across the country and interviewing people-
And boy your arms are tired.
[LAUGH] No joke.
That's a long flight.
That's a really long flight.
But thank you for holding down the fort.
I'm excited to tear into these topics.
I'm super excited too.
I feel like they're all things you will have a very strong opinion about, so let's hit the headlines.
Alright, first story.
NASA, Mars, hololens.
Boom, there it is.
Three great tastes that taste great together.
Very true, very true.
So NASA is letting scientists at NASA JPL use hololens to walk on the surface of Mars, so to speak.
So they're able to check things out, they can walk around.
This is really cool, they made a specific type of software that will pull the downlinked images from Curiosity, our favorite Mars rover.
Sorry other Mars rovers, sorry Opportunity.
Opportunity just got so sad.
Yep, I'm sorry, that was a sick burn for Opportunity.
But that's okay, cuz it's a vacuous space and it can't live there, fire can't live there.
Okay, so This is really cool, so they are able to get to download images that Curiosity is taking.
The software can create a 3D field for them to walk around in and they can explore the surface as they were really there.
Incredible, I mean, VR
They are going to allow us to experience places that we can't go to yet, whether it's an apartment you wanna rent across town or a planet that no human being has set foot on yet.
This truly is, I think, one of the most exciting applications of this technology.
I think so, too.
I think HoloLens, you know, it has its It has its cons, it definitely has.
The field of vision is really narrow thus far.
It could get better.
But just the fact that scientists are able to do this as if they are next to curiosity and Assisting like in that way is really, really cool.
And I really love that they can do this quickly this is not something that will take weeks for them to create this image they can create it right away.
Get the downlinked images you know piece it all together with the software and then just jump right in there and start investigating.
And this is the beginning.
This is just the beginning.
Of where this is going.
I mean if you're talking about Google Street View now.
Very shortly we're gonna be able to have anywhere on the planet, you can just put a headset on-
And go there.
And look around and check it out.
I mean, I think though the way that is going to shrink the world quite tangibly and-
I mean, what does that do for tourism?
Well people really wanna go somewhere, if the virtual reality is good enough I said, you know, hey, I really wanna go visit the Louvre, while what if the virtual reality tour is so good that I feel like I just never really need to go there in real life.
Do I start paying for those experiences?
Like, I think so.
I think so.
Very soon, we're gonna have virtual reality.
Sports events that you'll be able to buy a virtual seat for.
They are already doing stuff like that.
I mean they're planning on, I think last Super Bowl you were able to.
Or maybe we talked about the potential of it, some point being able to buy tiered tickets from different points in the field.
This is only going to get better.
Tanisha wrote to us in our hashtag HeyTD, if I could go anywhere Hololens, I would go to the bottom of the
[INAUDIBLE] see and explore.
Also a great application one of the only places on earth that really is still a big mystery, even to a lot of scientists.
So I'm 100% with that
well one of the first VR experiences that you can get right now on Oculus and Vibe is the blue
Is that the whale?
It's the whale, and it's so neat.
You're standing on the deck of a sunken ship and you're looking around and you're swiping at the fish.
And they're all swimming away and then all of a sudden you turn around and there's just a giant blue whale.
And it just goes through.
It really is such a moment in VR.
It's really, really neat.
So from the highest highs of virtual reality, the uses in the scientific community, to something a little bit more Insidious, I would say.
We gotta talk about hyper-reality.
So, this, you guys had a lot to say about this.
This video, I'm so glad that we covered it, because I shared it and we got a ton of responses just on my Twitter alone, of people going, thank you for sharing this, this is crazy, but I could see it happening.
This is, did you get to watch all of it?
Of course, yeah, this is insane.
It really, it freaks me out a little bit.
I'm gonna [CROSSTALK]
I mean, I think there's something really exciting about it, but also terrifying.
Awful, it makes me feel really anxious to watch, because I know it could happen in a way that is maybe not as overwhelming as this, but very similar.
But I think that if you showed
The average movie that's in the theatres right now, to someone 30 years ago, it would seem overwhelming.
The way cuts happen so much quicker.
That's probably true
We just become different, culturally we advance and you're able to digest information in new ways and we evolve.
Maybe what looks cacophonous and terrifying to us now
Will be totally normal in a hundred years.
Will seem completely normal and that barrier between what is.
The real world and one is the virtual world.
And how information is weighed.
Come and melt together.
It's as a paradigm shift.
It's a little scary.
But it's also really exciting to think of this fusion of information and the real world.
Create a complete different experience where you can be.
It's sort of the same concept as the same like the smartphone.
So right now if you look at people using smartphone.
Somebody 40 years ago would have looked at someone using a smart phone and being like, that's so overwhelming.
It's too much.
You're doing so many things at one time, how do you even focus on anything?
And there have been discussions about multi-tasking And how that's really kind of killed our focus in society-
And all this other stuff.
But that aside, it seems interesting.
Just in the same way that we say in a hundred years, our great-grand children will be saying things like, I can't believe you manually drove.
Cars around like that's so weird, how did you do that, why would you do that?
I had less than 100 I think.
Yeah why would you do that?
Like that seems so bizarre like how quant you guys used to manually drive like these giant boxes of death around like metal death And in the same way, it could be that same way where its like I can't believe you guys used to live life where you couldn't see all of your information in a HUD right in front of your face all the time, how that's so strange.
I think that's very probable you know, you go back to downtown abbey time right?
And there waiting by the for the postman to bring the mail Two or three pieces of posts and they're excited about it.
You tell that person how many emails you actually get.
Do you know much email I get in a day?
Well, how much email you get.
It's like you get hundreds-
Hundreds of emails a day.
Thousands of emails.
And we've just sort of, that's normal.
That's completely normal.
I think this is a scary thing for all of us who are alive right now, but it may end up being much more commonplace and just seem normal.
I just don't want my future to look like a geo city's website.
That's all I'm saying.
That is the scary part.
That's all I'm saying, I just don't want it look like I'm living in 1990's animated
Those were the absolute worst.
I have to give a shout out really quickly, user feedback wise.
Light worker sent us this great video post on Twitter.
He recorded a little video of himself.
Which we love and encourage more people to do.
It was amazing, please do more of that.
He talks about, if you were a botanist, you could look at a tree and get information about the tree and what you could use it for, in terms of healing people, or things like that.
It was really fascinating
For some reason could not save it and then run it through our tricaster.
So I'm sorry Light Worker, we could not run your video but it was amazing and you made great points and we will retweet it from the Tomorrow Daily Twitter account.
Arnold wrote to us and said wow, I can just imagine the return of the pop-up ads.
I mean, your whole world is a pop-up ad at that point.
That's true, yeah, mm-hm.
It's just you're living inside a pop-up ad.
Derrick wrote in and said, speaking of botany, you know there's an herb that will place you in hyper-reality, but I digress.
I'm not familiar.
Me neither, and also, some of those herbs can kill you.
So don't do any of that.
And then Kieran wrote in and said the hyper reality could be
Super effective if it's used correctly and it's not monopolised by big companies.
I agree with that.
But what are the odds of that?
Hilarious, I know, so depressing.
But no, a really good point, and like I said you guys really wanted to talk about this, that was the most popular story.
I think you know
It's almost obvious, once you watch this video, it seems that "Of course, that's where we're headed", but I would have never thought of it before I saw it.
I would have never thought of it before I saw hololens.
Now I'm like, I always thought it would be virtual reality, and now everybody's future is going to be having, not the Google Glass type thing, but Everywhere.
But you, every time we've ever seen a Google glass or a Holland application, it's very on demand, and it's very, like a specific thing, and you get information about that one thing.
It's not a massive influx of information all the time, which of course, that helps.
We would be.
What kind of cell service are you gonna have to have to be able to downpull all that info at once?
Okay, last story and then we will take a break and come back with Blake Wexler, who's gonna talk about being a comedian and putting in a [INAUDIBLE] From the album.
Let's have our MVP.
Most Valuable Primate.
So, this is a robot, remote control robot, that they're using right now.
With the Pittsburgh Steelers which is an American pro football team.
It looks like a joke, but go ahead.
But here is the crazy thing, it can move as fast as a person.
On average as fast as a person can run.
It also decreases the amount of times players need to take tackles.
So it's less dangerous for them.
Right because in practice they would actually be hitting a human being.
And rather than having to hit a human being the got MVP.
And really they're just one of those clowns that you can knock over and then they come right back up.
It's got two levels, but it won't fall down.
It's a wibbly-wobbly.
That's exactly what it is, it's a giant, heavy wibbly-wobbly They make them about the same size and weight of an average player and then it's like that's how it works.
It's like they hit you a little, get a catch and everything.
I love that they're doing this.
How long until the consumer version and then we can all have one in our backyard?
Cuz I want one.
100% I want one of these.
I bet you could do it with a raspberry pie, and if you had some elbow grease you can just put some elbow grease into it.
You know the kickboxing stuff that you get at home?
That type of thing, I bet you could do it.
The saddest part is when the robot uprising happens and when it's all pad people who are attacking us.
Running into us and we're like 'Ow!', stop touching me.
It's for us, it's not embarrassing for us, it's embarrassing for the robots.
I love that they're doing this, because obviously full contact American football is pretty dangerous and we've seen people with CCE, we've seen concussions.
These are all really serious injuries and you don't want your players experiencing these things in practice.
That's the worst time ever to get injured, if at all.
So, why not minimize, one, long term injury from repeated impact, and two, minimize the chance of a serious injury, single serious injury.
Then, how long, I ask you Ashley, how long, until we replace the players with the robots?
I'm okay with that.
National Robot Football league, and NRFL?
Starting right now.
I think there was a video game to that effect, right?
I mean we could-
We could do it.
Just think, it would be great.
It will save people.
It might not be as fun to watch.
I don't know.
Have you ever seen robots play football?
That's a very good point.
You can't say for sure.
Maybe it's even better.
You can't say for sure.
It could be even better.
I just saying that, I mean BattleBots is on right now and I'm really enjoying that.
Give them a ball, a couple of goal posts and we're in.
Let them put, well like here's the thing, players in the National Football League can't have weapons.
But you could have robots with weapons.
Yeah, now we're talking.
This could be pretty great guys, I'm just saying.
I think it was the Simpsons where they did that, too.
I think the Simpsons has actually done this exact show, because they have done everything.
We have one more user feedback, and then we'll take a break.
Bet Jim Our good friend, Bedjam.
Wrote injuries ruined my football career so maybe having the MVP robot around when I was in high school could've cut down on those injuries.
I got personal, anecdotal experience right there.
But that is it for our headlines.
Really good discussion, thanks.
I'm so excited.
I finally got to talk about all of this.
And I'm like where's jeff?
I got to talk to Jeff.
No, I'm glad to be back.
We're going to take a quick break and then we're going to have Blake Wexler and he's going to talk about making comedy and all that good stuff.
And then we are going to talk, we are going to talk about VR and which headset is better right now.
So stick around it's Tomorrow Daily.
Our next guest is a comedian who is celebrating the release of his very first comedy album.
Which debuted at number six on iTunes.
It's called the Blake album Blake West, thanks for being here.
My god, thank you for having me.
Thank you so much.
Thank you so much.
I get that, there's no studio audience, I have to do it It's like I, maybe someday we'll get an audience of robot clappers, like I think that would be-
It's definitely metal on metal.
Doesn't even sound like applause, like somebody beating pots and pans together is the sound.
[CROSSTALK] Hitting the cymbals.
That's what we had, a bunch of monkeys with the cymbals.
Welcome to the show, clank clank!
Well that makes everyone feel comfortable, that sound, yeah.
I like that I suggest that, as opposed to just a sound bed of people clapping.
I'm like, [INAUDIBLE] there's a simpler answer, but no, I need a robot Studio audience.
That's exactly what we need there.
You are accustomed to audiences clapping.
That's the goal.
It is the goal, for sure.
And you've been doing stand up for a long time.
I started when I was real young.
I started when I was fifteen.
And yeah I did it through college and I'm still doing it.
What, at 15, what made you say I want to be on stage in front of people potentially heckling me?
I didn't know about the heckling [LAUGH]
They don't tell that to 15 year olds.
And you watch all those great comedy specials, and every joke is amazing and everybody's laughing.
And you're like George Carlin is just getting all these laughs.
I want to be a standup comedian too.
Meanwhile, he bombed all the time.
apartment I'm getting though is amazing.
But yeah, I just kept doing it and my mom drove me to shows when I first started.
They weren't good shows.
Like they were in terrible dive bars with a bunch of animals from Philadelphia at 1 o'clock in the morning.
But I guess I liked it.
An actual barn.
you were drinking at the petting zoo.
It was a dive barn.
I like that.
That could be the next hit bar category.
I like it.
The Dive Barn?
[LAUGH] We have to all invest in The Dive Barn.
Somebody out there is going to start that business.
The Dive Barn sounds pretty amazing.
You're welcome, John Taffer, wherever you are.
Where you can pet exotic animals while you're wasted.
They bring out a sloth and you can pet him.
Actual well drinks.
Actually doing, yeah, I like it.
Okay, thank you.
What are your, I mean not to dwell on your beginnings, but what does a 15-year old set feel like?
Yeah, what do you write about?
What would you start with?
It was really bizarre because, I mean, in subject matter you only have so much life experience.
It was SATs.
Like it was math class, but my delivery of my favorite comedian was Louis Black
and I had this weird angry delivery and it's like, Why is angry?
He's a white kid from the suburbs and he's 15 and he's talking about like tests.
They're like no one cares.
But it was very bizarre.
I think people weren't laughing for the right reasons.>> They were, okay.
They were like, why is this kid so angry?
Than not funny.
I think that's what it was.
> They were confused.
I think that a lot of people who start by emulating the people that they like and then sort of have that process of finding their own voice or not.
For sure, yeah.
It's interesting to see your brand of comedy sort of now is
I like that, sort of, your persona on stage is that you're, you're just sort of always by default, like kind of annoyed at people, like you're just like, aw look at these dumb things people are doing.
Yeah, it's funny, like I don't even think, like I'm a very happy person, but then like.
I'll try to talk about like annoying things and still eat like why or just like, it doesn't, I mean non of the things are like huge issues, you know.
I just saw a person who in a very specific way bothered me but doesn't affect anyone else, very relatable.
I like that you said the idea that of course snow ball effect where it's like this one tiny thing is annoying me and then you can just build it and it's really
Kind of interesting thing that collectively grabs everybody.
Like a sort of a-
Really good way to describe what you do.
Like in your jokes, like how you build them?
I like the sound of it.
Will you represent me?
You know what?
[CROSSTALK] I am accepting new clients, I am accepting new clients.
Sorry, if someone dropped out, I could.
I could, or you fire them.
Maybe you fired them.
Well, I decided to stop representing Jess because it's a conflict of interest.
It's my first time hearing this.
Conflict of interest or something.
[CROSSTALK] I don't know.
So tell us about making
There goes all my SAT jokes that I had.
So you took them.
At least somebody's getting use out of them.
I gotta get more out of
So tell us a little bit about creating your first comedy album.
Because this is something that I think a lot of people when they hear a comedy album they don't really realize how many years of work can go into crafting a set, like a specific hour of comedy.
Right yeah, I actually did do a chunk on the album of old jokes when I was a kid when I wrote.
Three-minute part of it.
But yeah, it is like years where you've just gotta be in the right place for it, I think.
When I started recording an album themed like, this is This is the pinnacle of life, like nothing can get better than.
And then it happens and it's hard to be like, now I'm like now I need to sell it as a special, you know what I mean?
It was such a cool accomplishment where the reason why I did it was almost to add, have like a benchmark for my career.
Where I did this, I did this, I have an album, you know what I mean?
And then if I make my money back.
You know, like you can always kind of break even and just have that.
It's like a sentimental thing.
And then anything else was a bonus.
But it ended up selling really well and it came out great.
So many things in this business don't go the way you want it to, but from getting the right audio guy to work with and then The comedy club selling out with the right people, like an audience that was there to see me.
And then just the way the cuts came together.
And any curve ball was kinda handled where I stayed with cats that weekend.
I mean, human beings who own cats.
The cats, the cats.
Yes, I stayed with a cat and they're always in contact.
Cats of cats.
What if that was my way of naming
I don't know if that's cool but that's odd.
Whatever, my roommates are two leads in fact, fine.
No big deal.
What cross section in your life do you being with them?
My best friend in Philly have cats, I'm allergic to them but not like you know, heart shut down allergic.
So I didn't think it was that big of a deal
And then when I listen to the first cut of the album you wouldn't be able to hear it as an audience member but because of the high quality audio equipment when I would take a deep breath there was a wheezing noise.
I called Alex Dingly who is the amazing sound mixer and said "If this stays in here we can't release it, this is a horrific noise for people
It sounds like laugh, laugh, laugh, funny, funny.
And then you would hear a long drawn out beep.
I think he's lying.
This is not good.
This is supposed to be funny, but we're worried.
Should we buy his album?
I feel really worried about him.
We have to pay for his medical bills.
We should give him some money.
Yeah, that's probably why he released it.
It was crazy, I don't know why.
Thank God we were able to get rid of that noise.
It's a thing you would never ever.
Well thanks, Pat.
I know, thank you so much.
Almost blew it for our old friend Blake here.
I almost destroyed my career.
Like his personal life vendetta against cats.
Right, the whole every cat I've ever
Experience cross [INAUDIBLE]
That's a parallel universe that's happening right now by the way.
Having ruined your career in some weird parallel-ey alternate universe they have completely destroyed your life.
They have a vendetta against me for sure.
And vice versa I mean you're really out to get them now.
Well now I am yeah yeah I mean I like to be the bigger you know species
It's better than not.
Not in this life of course.
Never, but in that other parallel universe, it's time for them to go.
It's so over, yeah, I'm quitting comedy.
[COUGH] Become a cat, or avenger.
A cat avenger, perfect, yeah, right.
Another one of those.
So did you feel the pressure now that you did that album
To put all that material away, and have to craft new material?
Yeah, I do, I mean the pressure is all put on myself.
I'm the one putting the pressure on me, cuz it's not like, I mean, people will come and see me, but I'm not famous enough where like.
I'm going back to this theatre where people paid $60 a ticket where they'll want their money back.
So I'm trying when I do sets now only maybe 10 or 15% old stuff and then the rest brand new so And its also kind of taken pressure off where its like you know I've been doing this for a while, I've been doing well enough for a while to have a career, but its also like now there is definitive proof that I'm good at this you know what I mean.
Its out there its official.
Yeah and its like a tangible thing where.
You have something you can sell.
And you can point people to it.
If you can't see me live, you can now buy this record.
It's like, I promise I'm good.
Okay, he's good.
It's an interesting thing.
It's also freed me up You know like less there's less anxiety trying out new, not just material but like ways of doing stand up and stuff, so its a cool, its been a great.
What do you mean by that?
Ways of doing stand up.
Or like if I wanna improvise more, or like talk about, like throw a character in the middle of a joke or something like that
You know I go off-
Like the cat-revenger
Yes the cat-revenger!
You can right that down That's fine.
You can have that.
Everyone that watches this has to sign an NDA, not to disclose this.
100% Well speaking of NDAs I'm curious.
We've asked this question of comedians before on this show, and writers.
How do you find
Workshopping things in a world of technology where people are able to snapchat your sets as you're workshopping things.
People are able to get that information out there before it's really baked.
How do you deal with that?
Or what's your response to that?
Does that annoy you?
Is that something that you've learned to work around?
How has that affected you as a comedian?
That's a great question.
I think it's like I mean, when people videotape me, there's two thoughts where I'm like, could you please stop doing that would be a thing.
But also if they put it online, if I'm not good enough to write a better joke after that, if that for some reason puts a roadblock on my career, then I need to be a better writer.
You know what I mean?
So it's like please don't do that, but also I have a responsibility
Responsibility to be good enough to keep writing and coming up with a new thing.
There's a cool thing where Hannibal Buress, great comedian, he tried out this new technology.
I have no idea how it works but it.
It doesn't kill your phone, but your phone won't work.
We have that guy on the show.
It's called yonder, and you put your phone in a little magnetic pouch and it locks when you're in the venue and you can't take your phone out until you leave.
I love that.
I think that's really cool
I'm all for that and also like to enjoy in art.
Sure, to be present.
Yeah, and it really does, just being present I think is so underrated.
Just enjoy what you're doing right now, it's okay.
A second screen experience for life.
I mean sometimes there's times for it.
When other times I just put it over there.
Like my friend Todd when he has people over, you put your phone in the bowl like when you walk in.
Like you leave it.
And then whoever's you get out of the bowl, you can maybe have that.
[LAUGH] I like that, yeah.
I have Jessica's phone now.
You get to use that Uber account.
Right, ooh, I like that.
That's basically it.
Not anything else.
You just get to use their Uber.
It's pretty good.
I like that a lot.
21st century tea party.
I do like the one where it's like you get together with your friends, everybody puts their phone on a stack on the table.
And then whoever touches their phone first pays for dinner.
I like that too.
That's a good rule.
Unless you have really broke friends, then that means that you just don't go to [CROSSTALK].
But they have a rotary phone in the middle?
[LAUGH] It's like, we know, it's [UNKNOWN].
But you get your friend to call somebody else's phone, and then it's ringing right there, and they have to get it, and then you win, because you didn't have to pay for [UNKNOWN].
Or, change one of the names in their phone of the.
Friend to like the name of their child calling them.
I like that.
Kind of evil but funny.
That is super evil I like that.
Do you sit down and write jokes or do you kind of craft them while you're on stage.
What's your process of Making comedy.
I'll do both, I like putting in the work of actually writing it out, but then kind of bullet point it, and then when I bring it on stage, just almost improvise the thing.
So like, I'll have both Where, if in the moment I come up with something funnier it's like okay, cool, and I'll record it on my iPhone, and then listen back and go like all right, I can plug in that thing that I though of on stage there, but I also like having the pre-written thing Not as a safety net but as you know like as a foundation of it, I guess
The a skeleton of your joke and then you see sort of what happens when you take out there>> Right and then I just throw genitals on it
You fell it out
As they say skeleton plus genitals equals
It's not tragedy plus time that's old
This is downtrodded topics.
This is the 21st century, we gotta spice it up a little bit.
Thank you so much.
My god, thank you.
Our time is already up.
The album is called The Blank Album.
It's super easy you guys.
You can find it on iTunes right, and other places?
Yeah, other places, yeah.
Find those other places [LAUGH]
A little challenge for you.
Find my album on the internet [LAUGH]
And if you can't find it, what is your website so that people can go there, because you're the same everywhere.
Yeah, it's Blake Wexler and then @BlakeWexler on
Snapchat, Instagram, Twitter.
Yeah, that's it.
So follow this man, but not in real life, cuz that's weird.
Follow him on the Internet, get his comedy album, enjoy it and laugh.
And thank you so much for coming on the show.
Thanks for having me.
This was so much fun.
We'll be right back with what I'm very excited about which is, I'm gonna grill you on which one's better, Vive or Oculus?
Yeah, so stick around.
It's Tomorrow Daily.
Welcome back to the show.
That was delightful.
That's the idea.
I really hope he does not become the cat revenger.
[LAUGH] Well, you know what?
Some cats, they got it coming.
That's all I'm saying.
Yeah, some cats just are terrible people.
Some cats are terrible.
They're just the worst.
So instead of Back It or Hack It this week I thought It would be kinda fun to talk about virtual reality, because-
My favorite topic.
You own both headsets, you own a Vive-
I am that guy.
You're that guy, you have the Vive and the Oculus.
You have them both set up, you use them pretty equally.
And up until this point we've really kind of only speculated what they would be like.
And so I think this would be a good conversation to have for anybody who's curious about what the VR experiences are right now.
Lets start off with, because producer Logas mentioned this too because he is a vive.
So, lets talk about really briefly, what is the experience like in your home with virtual reality for both of the head sets compared to lets say a press event where people are watching you play or you are in a room with other people watching you play?
Well yeah, I think being able to settle down and have a longer experience
And be comfortable in your own space, and not be self conscious.
Even though, sometimes my wife looks at me and giggles at the things I'm doing in virtual reality.
You can still be a little more comfortable in that space.
You really get a better sense of these over the long term.
And I think If you have the room, if you have the space for it, and it does require some space, I really do think Vive, right at this moment, is the superior experience.
And that is primarily because the promise of VR, I think, is what the Vive delivers, which is being in a place, feeling like you're in that place, and then being able to physically manipulate and move around that space.
So it's the controllers?
It's the controllers, it's the room's scale, it's the fact that you are standing when you play that.
I mean, they do support seated experiences on Vive.
But a lot of Oculus is mostly seated, stationary experiences.
Right now, until the touch controllers are released which they say is going to be in the fall.
But everything on Oculus is designed to be played with a controller, sitting down.
And that is a very fun experience.
There's a lot of really-
But it seems less immersive.
It's just not the promise of, the difference between playing the two headsets right now is that one of them I'm in a place and I'm physically doing stuff, looking and walking around, being there, and having my hands mapped to those controllers and being able to
So many of the great vibe games let you physically do things.
And in Oculus I'm in a place but I'm detached from that place because I can't physically manipulate it.
Because you know that you are moving with the controller.
There's a sense of presence with the vibe that you don't have with Oculus.
And being able to have more interaction with the environment in a way that seems completely intuitive because it's how human beings interact with the environment.
In a Vive game, most of them if there's an option that I can pick up I just pick it up.
In an Oculus game you play like most video games, you press X to pick things up or whatever it is.
But that doesn't feel the same as using a controller to walk up to something and literally grab it.
It's very different.
I think it's a superior
Feeling of virtual reality.
I was going to say, go ahead.
Well I was going to say, now that there are great experiences on Vibe.
Lucky's Tale, is incredible.
And the thing that's so neat about Lucky's Tale is with Vibe, when you're room scale, and you're a human being in a place,
There are so many cool like gigantic locations.
You've turned your room into this forest r this amazing outdoor play, whatever it is.
You feel my god there's a giant dinosaur or there's a whale from the blue or whatever it is.
The thing about Lucky's Tale that they do, that I didn't realize would be as amazing in V-R, is that they create little spaces.
So you are in a little diorama world with your head.
And you're looking around these adorable claymation creatures-
Tiny little people.
In their house and it's this big.
But you get to peer through their window.
And it's a little house that your inside like a dollhouse.
You're a terrible giant.
You're just observing and you get to control lucky, but that is an extraordinary feeling.
So you're a peeping giant.
You're a peeping giant.
A peeping giant.
And that is cool, Chronos is the same.
With Chronos you feel like you get to actually be inside.
You know, a Legend of Zelda type world.
The difference being Vanishing Realms, as I've talked about on the show before; you're actually there, feeling it.
Holding a torch, or grabbing stuff out of your utility belt.
Do you think it was a mistake for Oculus to launch without the touch controls?
Only because the vibe exists.
I think it was actually a sound strategy of introducing VR in a seated experience that's actually more akin to what they're used to.
If Vive wasn't already doing that one thing that's like; my God, wow, because having a two tiered release strategy and going, "okay seating first, and then touch controlled controllers later" to try to up the ante The smart way of doing that, but one company already jumped ahead and is like, no, this is the cool thing.
No, you must make stuff with controllers-
And I think that's one thing that always interests me, and I'm dying to see how this kind of plays out with occulus which is
Oxylus has created a fragmented environment in which developers can choose tp develop for a controller or the touch controller.
And so the traditional controller or touch and for me that's going to be a problem in the long run, I think they should have said nope we're just gonna delay it and its gonna come with touch and its
Gonna be the same price as the vibe, or competitive with the vibe.
And that's how much it's gonna cost, and every developer, you guys need to make games that are compatible with touch.
Because I think you are right, and I think that is the key.
I think this idea of presence with your arms and hands make it immersive, make it this thing that, like you said, the promise of VR has been Existing in a space as supposed to.
Just having a headset on a be like.
Well I am sitting down in another room.
But I look like I am walking doesn't have enough controller.
Yeah now that makes sense.
The headsets themselves.
I think the Oculus headset is a little bit more comfortable, lighter.
I love the built in earphones.
They don't bother your ears, they don't like smash your ears down or whatever?
No, you can bend them out and back, it's really, really well designed I think.
The sound quality isn't gonna be as top notch as if you bought dedicated headsets.
Your own headset, right, yeah.
Which to [UNKNOWN]
Forces you to do.
It comes with ear buds, but you don't wanna use those.
But it also makes it less cumbersome and less awkward.
When I put the Vibe headset on, I then have to put the headphones on over it.
It's the whole thing, it's the whole thing.
And with the Oculus, I just pull it back, put it on, and we're set to go.
And I think that's a big part in making it not feel like a lot of mess you have to get through.
Yeah, that makes sense.
Well, thank you.
I gotta say.
You were so helpful, super helpful.
I love the experience of VR.
I proselytize about it to everybody.
I try to get people to come over and experience it because
I really do think it's the future.
I don't think it's a gimmick.
I think it, even the seated experience, even like you stay on Chronos, are like.
You must experience it.
That's the key.
The key is, you must experience it, so if you get a chance to, make sure you do, because either of those headsets, you'll get it, if you haven't experienced VR or if somebody is curious about it, using the headset makes all the difference.
And with E3 right around the corner, hopefully there'll be lots more VR goodness, and we know PS VR is gonna have a big presence there, so.
So, we'll have lots more to talk about going forward.
Cuz we went a little long, let's do a very quick Into It, and then we'll check out Phonetographer of the Day.
So, since we're already talking about VR, I'll go first.
Reggie Watts, one of our favorite comedians,
Is actually doing a standup set tonight.
In virtual reality.
Yeah, he's doing [CROSSTALK] virtual reality, AltspaceVR is doing this, you get the AltspaceVR app.
So there he is and he's going to do a whole set in virtual reality.
Tonight, I believe, at 8 o'clock, you can go over to Reggie's web site and check out his Twitter.
And all that stuff.
He's got his probation there.
And you can do it on cardboard, too.
They're gonna let you use other, and watch in 2D as well.
If you don't have any of those things, you can still check it out.
I like how they can put them literally anywhere, and they still put them in front of a red curtain.
Anywhere in the universe.
Literally, they could have put him in the vacuum of space.
So they chose well, just put a curtain behind him, just like at the improv.
Or a brick wall.
That would've been another good choice.
But yeah, I think that's really cool and if you wanna check it out it's tonight.
But hopefully AltSpace will have it on their app afterwards.
Yeah, my Intuit is a little self serving.
I just wanted to mention another web series that I'm and part of and I'm proud of it.
I think its very funny, it's called Marriage Is and it's written by my friend Christian Spicer who is a stand up comic as well.
And these are a series, we did four episodes so far.
And they are all short.
A couple of them are a little adult.
Well, I guess they are all a little adult.
Marriage is kid of and adult thing.
Because adults do in fact get married.
So I get it.
Well, there is some language in one of them.
One is a little off color.
But this is a Sort of just little snippets of life, what it's like to be married, and I think they're very funny and very fun I was really proud to be a part of it.
So, you can check these out they're on YouTube.
Christian Spicer is the person who wrote and produced them.
So you can find them on his YouTube page which is www.youtube.com/christianspicer.
And there's four episodes marriage in.
I'm waiting in all those videos, by the way for you to turn into Goku.
Now after stabbing senior and table flip I'm like, When's he going to turn into Goku guys?
When he going to turn into Turn into Goku.
That was funny.
Yeah, so check that out.
Make sure you check that out.
Yeah, please do.
Shameless self promotion here on Tomorrow Daily.
I gotta get the word out somehow.
No shame in our game, and with that being said, let's check out our Phonetographer for the day.
We love you.
This is an amazing photo.
It's a great picture.
By the way, all week this week, people could not accuse us of having an iPhone or Apple bias because all week this week they have all been Samsung phones, and they have been such good pictures, and I will not stand for this kind of accusation on Tomorrow Daily.
I will not.
I said good day.
I said good day!
All right, let's check out the picture.
Here it is.
Look at the birds.
This is clearly a fake, you can't even fake this, you can't even fake this in Photoshop.
Asif writes in and says, hey Ashley and Jeff please find attached a picture I took during sunset of the Toronto skyline.
Everything fell into place, the birds, the light, and if you look closely A newly wed couple taking some wedding photos at the bottom right corner of the picture.
Which, to be honest, I realized later I made the picture even better.
Taken with my Galaxy Note 3, it would be an honor if you use my picture on the show.
You have my permission of course.
My name is Asif, thank you, love the show.
And if you look really closely in the bottom left, you can find someone winning the lottery, there's a chocolate fountain in the background, there's dragons.
That entire city
Everything is perfect.
That entire city is in fact made of chocolate.
Toronto is just made of delicious dessert, the entire city is made of dessert.
All good things in one picture magically.
Yeah, I mean what a great photo.
Such a good use of panorama.
That's why we love this segment because people astound us with their photography.
They really do.
We need a new theme because we won't be here Monday because of the holiday.
It's Memorial Day.
What should our new theme be?
We'll be back the last day of the month so we should think of a new theme.
I think, but I wanna give people time over the weekend.
To announce it, but it's June.
So I was thinking, I was like, well, we hear about June Gloom, like we could just make it gloomy.
Like gloomy could be the [UNKNOWN]
Cuz we went from spring, we could have something with gloomy-
I think we should do antidisestablishmentarianism.
Just as good as supercalifragilisticexpialidocious.
Gloom is good.
I feel like a little bad.
Maybe if we do selfies.
Selfies are good.
It's beach season.
I'm gonna be at the beach.
I don't know.
We could do selfies.
What about costumes?
Also Comic Con is in a month.
No, July is Comic Con.
July is Comic Con.
So let's go with, I don't know.
What do you think?
I don't know.
You make the call.
I think you guys should just take pictures of yourselves, because I think it might be selfies.
But we retain final decision-
Get creative with it.
I don't want just one of your face, guys.
Selfies that, you could pretend Genghis took a selfie.
Like I do that all the time.
Yeah, I love it.
So maybe it's, maybe it's, listen.
I have the right to change it, that's all I'm saying.
I might change it on Tuesday.
I might do the old switcheroo.
But yeah, so let's just say selfie.
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That was it for this week's show, I'm so glad you're back.
I was feeling a little sad there.
I dare say, I was gonna, my god, you have no [INAUDIBLE] feeling big.
I can do this alone with Logan, but I really like when Jeff's here.
I like being here.
Me, us too.
We do, we do too.
So, alright guys, we're out for the weekend.
Have a great weekend.
We'll be back on Tuesday, and [INAUDIBLE] until then.
Be a good human.
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