Car Tech Live 252: Is your car poisoning you?A new report details the most toxic cars, Toyota teases a car greener than the Prius, while Ferrari just wants to go faster.
Is your car -- -- new. We but it teases the car -- greener than the prettiest. And Ferrari just wants to go faster. This is car tech lives for -- 23 2012 I am Wayne Cunningham in the studio with Antuan Goodwin. And -- -- at the board Brian Cooley is not with us today better things -- do I guess and talk about cars. But what better thing is there to -- and talk about cars cars red cars through crashed at. -- -- And -- back at. Well yeah okay. A long list it is no longer a long list. Of what's this about toxic cars -- it toxic -- -- there's been a new report just -- -- by the yeah. The faculty -- dot org -- at the site where it came out on -- it to. But see any documented actually -- the -- -- -- documented. All the them. Toxic materials in cars you know you know -- out -- That day and I guess that's that what they're slightly what they're dealing with years is that. Amount of bad step in your car and so did you know -- there's one chart here where they're actually looking at them. Over -- talk about which cars scored the -- At Mitsubishi -- sport actually did apparently has that the worst materials in its -- and and they're talking about things like via a front seat has -- -- mine and lead. And -- mining and Mercury. And they they -- enough parts. Per million parts for something in many parts from Nina is a -- in PPM. Arm rest has fairly similar. -- of of those materials and -- Mercury -- -- in -- chip not as chromium. During -- has chromium. Although at south by I guess can be bad for -- Does that mean -- it. It's just like being emitted what do you leave your car parked in the sun is like the dashboard like. Silently -- meeting this and a chemical reaction or are they just saying don't eat it. -- I think the stuff slowly emits over -- everything you know they mention Napa. You know the all the yet until -- -- goes for like the fire retardant materials and things like that at them. Adamant -- -- polyvinyl chloride PBC dominated flame retardant those are on there. And those are all -- another -- tennis supposed to stay in the the seats in the plastics in a lab but in the materials. But -- a -- -- -- down and little slowly sort of I mean you're sitting amongst well. Right so there there will be out gassing -- -- -- -- call button and then you will breathe in some of that stuff I mean image and then the new car smell. And I what I generally heard is that you know if you can spell its in your system. -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- It's just like. Will there's particulate matter in the loudly tell people eating of the -- at lake -- that's particulate matter which means that it smaller unit with her about them. But yet -- -- so and try to figure -- and it how much of this. Does it take -- -- really be dangerous -- is -- just -- -- it is the most dangerous -- still statistically insignificant when I'm trying to -- -- -- That is a good question that's what they don't really cover here. You know I don't think if you jump and I've I've driven the Mitsubishi Outlander sport and I'm alive. I guess we can it can send a maybe get -- should adopt a second to realize some analysts say that that -- -- -- where I guess the current scored the best though the least toxic materials -- side was the Honda Civic. And you've driven lot of Honda -- is -- They -- different every Honda Civic they -- are evident predicting that there are loath and that because. I really wanna. The really -- have an issue. But I guess what am -- looking up here like for example. On the federal government -- 600 parts per million of lead in household paints -- so that's what the government considers to be safe. We're looking at the front seat of this -- lenders -- -- in 54 parts per million. So it's not it's actually less dangerous than leaning against the wall sitting in -- seat. In I think all of these things will come in under. You know under federal regulations and that's why we -- regulations -- on the besides the materials so he. These are all considered safe by the government and there's no are not even an -- bitsy outlander sport which has -- You know the the most on toxic materials -- is over that the that. So. So he could be perfectly safe -- or. At any animated chart that we have here asserted that covers things -- like a one through five scale Leo from are actually it's both -- Audio from point -- six which is the Honda Civic. All the way to the three point seventeen which is -- Mitsubishi Outlander sport a Chrysler L of the press or 200. Came and even with the Mitsubishi -- sport. The previous. -- is the second least toxic at least 2011 Prius acidic is greener than the Prius and apparently yeah you're -- -- -- Internet via a would have sent. Some some amount some very small amount point 55 -- is point 46 -- and getting an a miniscule stuff there. Out of other notable cars on here a we have the avail the -- -- 52 point 89. That's that's totally different generation and -- in. -- -- -- -- In the united even five -- it -- he doesn't have it's -- -- -- especially the event actually just been reading list on the Internet and it. Used -- machine on the dashboard. Data there's some interesting. Sort of thing going on here and -- I'm I'm not really alarmist. And I can also can have a a -- speed of entry was everything we touch is gonna give you cancer can move. Absolutely I don't -- -- -- that this freak out. I -- into that audience by 2000 -- audience by only appoint someone for. You know the what is it like under one and is -- seniors under one means that -- -- And above one means that you need to think about. Your help and and and is still. Is the biggest bottom line is if you're pregnant -- by -- -- -- Yet maybe you know -- -- an infant -- scanners in that and enough that -- really -- that again take this with someone -- you can get alarmist about that I. Don't think it's too SP concerned about them to come around in them a little panicky -- Points out that those cars opened before we get any new carnal outlook the supplement chart -- -- it stands at CP and actually. Minimize their time inside it I can see now -- it's like -- cartons and -- silicon on the saris in a garlic a -- EU to take the financial yet. Oh yeah I know it's much faster nicer car than the -- that other one button instant death affect Arctic this year in the -- take the Bentley okay. And where it's worth of resorting elect and that's -- -- during -- news writer and Bentley that we. -- Toyota is actually bringing a new small hybrid. Due to Geneva auto show and that's actually in a couple weeks we're gonna be there was so we'll see it live then. Right now they've only released a little bit of he's seen on it -- there's a sketch and then you've got some more interest that the new and or. It's only the first they came out with -- this sort of over -- -- sketch. -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- This is there are a FTB eight -- stands for future Toyota. I was all of their concepts have that prefix the BIB. Segment in the of course hybrid. So this is a vehicle that scanner being. About the size of a Yaris. -- they're saying actually -- it's gonna be a little bit bigger. The next day actually -- get a closer look at them some really up close. -- teaser pictures of like the headlights. And of squiggly Levy till late third thing hybrid badge of they're saying that it's. It's gonna be less that it was gonna weigh less than its -- and I go which is actually even too small for our market and it's gonna be under 17100. Pounds. At that that's actually lighter than first in Mazda Miata by about 400 pound. A so super lights. It's about the same says the -- like I said with more space on the inside they're saying that it's more aerodynamic -- slick. In the upcoming. Scion FRS -- at that idea think they fit the GT six because of comes from the that is between UK eight design. Or at least their -- there the press release came from maternity UK. But that the most interesting thing about this is that they're saying. That. They're building this concept today using a common place economically viable -- materials and techniques so it's not like. There you know. Doing -- increased the you know like I guess that. If the Fed probably will be built using the same sort of fusing metal to. Tsetse composites that they were using India -- the -- -- it's it's designed to be. Able to bill -- actually built cheaply I'm so -- I think this is interesting because it is. It's a goofy looking concept I'm sure it's going to be. But. It's interesting because it kind of also. Because they're they're trying to figure out ways to make economically viable produced its. We're gonna see that trickle down it's the next generation Toyota vehicles regarding we're gonna start seeing. There -- there at their next generations of hybrids and even a next generation of regular internal combustion vehicles. Just getting lighter overall and it seems like that's the easiest way to have to make a car. More efficient -- of the system. -- concept and it will be it will be comfortable we see it. Because I was adjusted that -- you -- it's -- B segment car and that's about the same size of the played a Prius C which is coming out soon right. I was so yeah I would seem to be estranged and like a competitor of that but if that's concept then it's just more than -- the future direction of the Prius the. -- to think about it like how we saw the I would -- the FTH. Something. Whichever what did that the the FT concept that end up becoming -- -- making well. -- seven years ago tally so it's I think that it's kind of more about. I think what they're trying to showcases the lightweight construction and basically. You know a really neat sort of way to get people looking at it but then also due to its gonna hammering that PR message of going like we're trying to figure out how to make things light and cheap. Think it's -- kind of goes along with you know there investing. Money into. Developing cheaper carbon fiber and ways to build a carbon fiber some of the auto auto and other auto makers are doing that but it. So I guess until the cost of -- forever comes down to a point. That. You can put it on like an economy -- and I think they're I think they're probably just gonna start using. Plastics for a lot more things -- -- classic. Yeah I episode he said hybrid but they didn't specify anything about the power train the next hit. Downsized full hybrid archery and says it will probably be the one that in the greasy -- -- Yaris hybrid one point 41 point six with. The standard way to electric gas energy system connected to it maybe going to I mean they haven't -- a lithium ion batteries yet -- -- standard -- -- coming into the us. If they're trying to keep -- on the would be good waiting yeah that's true then that -- -- And that it seems to be the trend among auto makers in trying to get more efficient cars like this it is. Decreasing the weight and there's so much to be gained and -- with that. Semi automatically fix everything that's wrong -- -- car I becomes. A lighter on its toes it breaks it slows down better -- accelerates better it's more efficient. You you kind of immediately. -- every dynamic of of the vehicles. On the road demeanor I'd basically sitting -- of pounds. -- sort we're likely to probably see more lighter cars he is in the near future and other liking them up. -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- field of automotive infotainment electronics said -- something we we obviously put a lot of attention on here rated CNET car tech. Were were seen some reports that there's a lot of projection for growth in this area. One not a static for a long that are awhile back -- some institute last year said that. Moeller said that automotive is actually the third fastest growing mobile platform. For electronics. -- we're getting some new studies that just came out today. I HS which I used to help I supply I HS is a market research firm they -- -- -- and now automotive electronics. They did a study that shows. I mean this doesn't sound spectacularly. Fast growing that they said that that they -- steady growth in automotive electronics and mrs. Going into the you know factory installed dash port systems this kind of thing. And these numbers mean that you know if you're in this business is a good place to -- I mean it eventually. There there's just so protections. Although that it's a 2016. By then -- B drive themselves so you're gonna need something to keep you busy. And strata of in the world your oyster at that point sports like what kind of -- and off into the dashboard. -- they're talking about two -- said temperature increase in electronics. In money and in this field notes from. Four point seven to six point 4% it's written ranging from so they they -- seen. Average may be five better than 5% growth by 2016. From now. So -- that that's a nice steady growth in their talk about it you know currently it's about says. A -- to 33 point five billion this year and B 41 -- -- -- pretty one point two billion. Market. By 2016. Says a lot but the money that field -- -- real installed the new electronics in -- -- cars and certainly the chipmakers are trying to cash in on this. And I've talked to the people and and video lot. Adding Intel off Freescale they're all about chips to sell into this market to and then there's all that stop -- you actually see and touch like touch screens and all flat to. Com and along with this is interest in two. Similarly -- contributing to this automotive and payment statistic. -- back -- camera sales r.s are expected to double. I'm in nap from 20112. -- -- -- -- -- 14. Are now and am actually there. And reported -- it producing. What is it about 2015 they're going to be basically pumping out about eight. 8880. Thousand units by then so that's. And then you know once you start getting you know. Path pat me past that he's continued to grow and I think I can have. A bit of an understanding of why why is the case and the problem is. But you can't -- out of the back cars anymore and I mean just if you look at the wave design goes I talked to it's funny if whenever -- mention to people casually. -- in a bar that like our view cars like one of the question that always comes up. And after talking to Cuba to older friends is why can't you see out of cars anymore -- -- it's just like. You know why the cards have these really high slow -- that. The the the -- window -- have reason. The roof line two drops of that the rear quarter windows and the C panel all the disappeared from cars and -- You gave me you're getting to a point where when you hit their car like but that's where the artists that we -- now which is basically all greenhouse. It's his whole -- I can see around and did amazing. And surprising that parent connection and at high windows. And it's just you inward due to the windows are getting even more more more densely I just think it's because. The as the the manufacturing process it's you know a little bit more sophisticated every year auto makers can actually do these things that it's used -- kind of see. You know chop -- that were custom -- -- you know that. When when when you didn't have the option to leave in and a back up camera options. Assaulted a safety -- -- -- -- in the belt line games. I'm putting stronger reinforcements side reinforcement indoors and regional structure us stronger to breeze aside -- it. Unpacked and in the great testers at any car these days any new Clark try. Try opening the window and putting your your elbow over the windows not possible to be considered -- light up like this. They're back in the day at -- people with their -- arms -- -- now that the it's really weird pick up aluminum cans and let other road as you travel yeah -- had. But I mean I think -- maybe if the conspiracy theorist -- -- but I think. That there's a little bit of hey you know we've got an 11100 dollar backup camera option. And you can't really see out of the back of our car has -- at that feature to give ST 11100 bucks I think they're gonna building in a little bit of -- -- but still. -- by the tech and systems and view cameras part of the test drive is actually back into a space like a floor or it's just not as much of a design imperative because you can use the technology handicap -- -- designing. When you group went before in a rear view camera or read our cruise control or you know that the sonar -- detection. Was even an option when you designed to -- hat -- you had to be able to see out of it because there's no way. But now it's just like L takes an in post we'll just -- back up camera -- will be good to go it doesn't matter you can't see anything in this area we can fix that tech. Elegant fix it and post into it and designers can say we don't need a huge back window and and that that -- -- -- we had been recently that -- -- very small rear window and and a the thing that had a backup camera it's funny. When lots of times -- -- contrivance how many around and a lot of people don't get in the newest cars in Uganda as their parking in the city and they see that the back camera image come up on the Saturday -- like. That's cool you know on -- that and I'm used to it -- a lot of that it is that is complaining you're like yeah but -- Its trajectory lines don't -- The death of this article we have on the back camera sales doubling may be mentioned that end this and we've known as the about when he fourteen -- cars. Are going to have to have. Backup cameras at the federal mandate. And that's now comes from the fact that while people backed over their kids in the driveway. Yeah they always -- the options you edit the then the teacher retention sort of thing yet you know to safety and I've never doing you were -- and -- -- skid out but they also that it estimates and NASA after elections -- a -- An -- in the -- aftermarket camera -- you can also -- port your existing vehicles. You know anything that's -- when he port in the doesn't have -- cameras and actually add the -- -- dimension that few companies here but one that kind of a -- it was that. When he boy you EO YOE. Which apparently is going to offer a. HD. Camera yet. So that means is -- that it's widescreen and rammed in entry in the U and 1080 lines of resolution into. Any backup camera screen valued export. So you can see the the look of fear in the kids this -- and in place and yeah I think what's interesting the things that you want to backup camera car. Mean you -- good night vision because sometimes the the reverse -- on your car aren't very muted. So that the best -- cameras will offer related night vision guides who want -- to be not easily steal mobile. And sometimes it's a simple just using the right -- when -- you know Canadian attaching it to your your license plea agreements with how most aftermarket cameras. Our. And then. If at all possible into and start to see more of this is is in addition to the back -- camera. Which already usually has a really wide angle. That allows you to kind of even see a little bit into the blind spot for the car when -- back in house it when your. Turning into a spot. But if you can get something that has like proximity detection. Usually that involves drilling for old involved with putting -- down there. I think Alpine have a -- but does that -- an extra layer of protection. Distillate you know how far away from something new market sometimes when you get -- really wide fish right difficult to judge distance. Interesting thing about most -- -- cameras with the distance if if a bit -- -- it. So what looks like in inch. Away from the bottom of the screen is you know about six inches. The next in chip covers about two feet the next -- up sometimes covers even more -- that difficult to -- distance. -- as you approach viewed things a lot more quickly than you would if you were just looking directly out when. That's why it's cadavers to some it's distance lines -- element overlaid on those things. I was adamant this you know mandated on all cars and some cars -- don't -- really need backup cameras and certainly trucks and big sedans and think that your. I am I you know my -- it's it's a small you know Ambien -- -- three. In a -- camera that is all ridiculous kind of. -- because I'm not a -- -- behind me Tuesday night I was sitting in a car. Parked on the -- of the growth weeding you go into Le of Barley they've abandoned their -- playing tonight at nearly 845 some -- in the car. Dozens of the radio is dude pulls up in a Miata. Mazda Miata first generation. Chinese car in the world. And he still -- plenty of space in the spot still does the -- -- -- -- -- -- he couldn't gauge that was spaces -- and its current slate. It doesn't really matter what kind of car you're in the colors can -- someone who's just not comfortable with like gauging distance in the -- and help those people. That's true that's true I mean what happened and -- -- I usually underestimate how much space side absolutely backing up unlike -- are still a suspect they're gonna get -- after apparently get on the -- -- like five feet between me in the what's behind -- statements on. Have moving on Q. On this is the story picked up that this there's this -- yeah right most powerful -- ever tell us about it. So a -- 599 -- eyes Kindle bit long in the tooth due for placement. And so -- actually key validate either video and showcasing. Of the car that's gonna replace it. And there actually be taken the wraps off of this car on the twenty ninth the rumors are stating that its cars can be called the Ferrari F 620 GT. It's gonna have you know a V twelve engine up front under the hood rear wheel drive -- the same configuration of as the for a 599. But what's interesting about this -- is that -- claiming that it is the most powerful Ferrari ever. Right now you're -- up production cars. I I think that title belongs to -- Ferrari FF shooting Parikh. Which is putting out like 608. And six -- somewhat horsepower. -- you could count the Ferrari 599 GTO which puts out 661. Horsepower. I'm pretty sure they're not counting the 599 XX was present 720 horsepower in -- -- of extremely limited. -- variants that -- strictly track on that -- not a road going car we're guessing no. About 660. Horsepower from the B twelve that they're gonna be hampering -- sometime soon I'm pretty sure looking at the profile that is just. It's gonna be heavily based on the the Ferrari FF maybe with more power I'd definitely. With -- that Ferrari like. Four FR. Whatever they're there all wheel drive systems called and that's as simple as. -- the the frame transmission off of that interestingly are -- -- efforts to gear boxes I want the back of the engine has what seminary even -- -- front. The tenth two speeds. And it only engages the front gearbox menial Friday that he just drop that off. -- shooting break into acute attic of more horsepower yeah I think we're pretty close to oral expect the CI in this next Ferrari. -- -- -- profile I mean it's a pretty heavily mask are in the video and then the of the screen to be grabbed here I am but it doesn't put it GT car yet. That in which you'd expect -- -- -- replacement that's adjusting the party is doing more full well when so many cars and activities are. You know losing -- -- trying to get fuel efficiency and it's very doesn't really care much about. It's Ferrari so I mean I mean it's only here and that strip and I mean it also has to live in the same world as the event adore. I don't know if it complete if it directly competes against him indoors -- ultra mid engined car. But I mean as far as just look at -- vehicle. You know between those two Italian companies that are -- Pretty different in their philosophies. I think if it's interesting to see. Ferrari. Kind of throwing its its patented -- horse power rates there. Yes I -- the -- in my office on November 20 ninth yet. Leap day. So -- and this week we'll all be about looking out for that one instrument wanna get to as much information on news -- as they make that available and hopefully we'll see that current Geneva to. Seems like gas -- there that there. It wraps off on this week denying it should be it should be ready for her next week it's there should be -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- Mania and hard to get in -- sometimes outlast their we have is that Porsche. Which has been manatees -- -- working around and letting us know somewhat about a small. -- are smaller SUV there were announcements smaller than the key again and -- -- bat least release some stitches and select that we know they're working on a date so this week -- Can -- name -- they they have said okay here's the name for our our new car it's called. The Mac -- -- or the Mac and or anonymous on what -- Getting any better and may see in my dad I mean that's the first popular going to be like that -- announced. I'm sure the the also to variations and the payment is likely get and you have an awkward name that the tie in. -- and came and -- -- -- our sterner. The government will be deeply it would indeed W group -- -- -- port is is a tough one -- this car was originally. Sort of mean. Cajun. They're called the cage in which I cuddle time. Of the -- is very unfortunate name it it and let you know a key and -- and team and at all ganymede cents at the deal. That -- and I said that added that the BB a better name of the Pan American. Imagine an America. -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- He would be better name if they -- -- consistent. And -- it's -- his -- is that it is sort of and system -- In the in the press release but this currently insisted that. Every every one of their cars as it has a name that rep presents the -- very well represents its attributes. So -- -- mentioned and but they don't have any really consistency in those -- so does the -- -- It didn't have meaning do you attribute a number Marietta that came up an image totally ignore that in the and depressed -- -- they mentioned. Of the Baxter describes common national boxer engine and -- roadster. The key and stands for sharpness. The Cayman is snappy and at trial. And data -- more than renters -- capable also winning the -- pan Americana long distance -- So that -- from -- -- from books. Yeah and the they're all over the -- to their naming of -- into the data. I really care would badges. With the -- says. -- -- -- thing is is about is what this car is now. I don't really have a good idea of how big we expect if card -- is in my mind. Looking at picture I'm thinking something the size of the vote but is that just from Einstein is would be interesting but it means a bigger than matter. Well actually it's already confirmed their culture platform that Audi Q five and so that is a -- a smaller. SUV RE and if I think it'll probably likely have the -- 3.2 liter V6 and it are beacons. -- sort of gotten solving our portion and beauty and out -- -- sharing a lot of their their power trains at least at a certain -- So I wouldn't expect any really -- -- three point eight boxer engine in this car. In the -- a look at this the more it looks like less like a flattened. A key and in more like. East trees. And America on really be wheels -- someone just decided I want a -- America don't look at and that's -- -- did. Of course with -- -- sketches you know that the designers put on the biggest wheels possible like we're gonna apps thirties on this -- Acknowledged it actually does make a -- that is designed around 38 -- at a I'd rather than they -- like it on the personally being used -- ever in a production. The world's largest -- And it seems like. Elected do you that some students just take advantage of that. Out also got an -- in the -- means tighter in them. Some of the language and -- Indonesian Indonesian they say set. That's where this card gets its. Attributes from its its like a tiger. T and T had the better quality at the push is attempting oriented blacks during violent. And poignantly itself -- -- Just -- Anybody -- -- the only difference of course ever are currently in Atlantis. Out but moving on that it intends that enough about the Porsche -- come up so go on the road in the Range -- -- This car is it's -- -- four cylinder engine. A two liter direct injection turbocharged engines and -- and -- land forever. It's good that because -- Iranians -- -- city and when he I would. And I've seen definitely in the mid range of their appointed -- miles per gallon with a piece about highway driving so don't get better mileage and range -- of its. Before and it's probably the best. Drummer it's testing it for the road also. Sort of like little ride -- very car like me in that small engine. Discard -- really -- airing any ball through a breach and do you have. The button right here for here sort of like traction control systems like snow or her and even. And you know sandy terrain enemy we really -- seen as -- I would think -- system that and -- for example -- for regular -- human. And this collaborative business you know luxury vehicle that we have really an obvious here meridian. It's. It's definitely above average. -- -- the best I've ever heard but it's it's it's really -- it's pretty fine detail. -- have -- navigation system here with that one of these interfaces Land Rover and jaguar which kind of -- company now they tended to go to cities that. He's very graphic heavy interface is I think this is -- -- -- complicated and a little bit slow. It's like you hit a button for like menu for example they didn't have to think for a V continued to watch and nice little half -- second animation. Of the menus rendering it does mean you don't want that when you're driving around you just -- the thing you're thinking address back on earth. I'll bet there's a lot there also a lot of -- -- around here which. I could probably a slightly better graphic design -- -- don't think it's the best usability. And like in jaguars we've got this crazy little shift knob which rises up out of the Saturn console. -- it's the dial it is and actually -- here because in all cars are pretty much electronically -- -- Nelson. I ignored that -- cattle sisters of -- speed and a automatic transmission and one thing to say that interest -- about this card is that too. The engine mentions a two liter direct injection Turbo. It is that produces two and forty horsepower and something around 270. Pound feet of torque. Those figures are exactly the same -- -- peak of his pension. Time. So I think it's the same engine do you thank you yet we haven't proven yet but it is a good chance that. I land -- -- in there and -- from the start from four. We actually. -- have confirmed that now that -- it is the ego was bruised and import it's actually not quite the same as the one in need -- edge eco boost the edge produces two and seven the repository the that it evokes a engine only does T 51 pound feet. -- does have it -- forty horsepower -- -- -- which matches. And I I about -- read elsewhere that this is sort of a slightly different version of the engine that's in the -- focus STU. So. At the same technology to direct injection and Turbo chargers that know basically the same into different slightly different union on it now. And -- -- why they would. -- lose some of the -- on it and I'm quite sure where that would happen. And -- can come from anywhere. It -- if they're measuring. The power fly we ill meaning it can be different flywheel and -- the meet up with their different transmission. I could be -- as a minor difference in the -- of the intake. Any number of things can cause you to lose. You know a little bit -- -- -- the -- that evoke has been just it's amazing like every week I get -- at a regular press release from divers and while we won ten more awards for the evoked. It's gonna try its North American truck of the year it's the I think it is the North American truck here -- It's the audio track of the -- all over the world and that's winning the sort of -- award and. I don't get it. I mean well for starters. It's a good looking car like access for ever meet the person who designed this will. Guide -- mean -- It -- start immediately -- also recently -- lot of like neat touches and it just it feels like it was designed by one person. As opposed to lot of cars that are just like -- Those just take the light from this car and and then and or you know our other car has blue ring shaped -- -- got to figure out a way to make that happen. It's it just looks like it -- singular purpose things like at the fender vents which -- normally hate. But if you look at the in the lineup so perfectly with the headlights that almost looks like -- -- -- -- through that sort of layered fender it just. -- -- cohesive design it just looks like it's. You know. Machine from when -- That without arguing the I think it is good looking car as well -- hormone all of our readers agreed that. Idea. -- -- like the look of the -- but I guess. From the rest of -- its patents coming in -- so special let's linger. Actually yeah it is it is that I am the official name I think -- -- is that 2000 well Land Rover Range Rover Yugo. In whatever -- as -- and that's exactly -- Yet it's McIntyre and it's a nice it is a nice engine but as we've seen it's it's a Ford engine. -- but it has gotten high tech and just not sure does this is better than say an Audi Q five or something that as an example. Better meaning that definitely not only like okay if retirement cabin -- -- Insists that this system. The system in the -- is is relatively new as as the means near an accurate system Terry but. It just already filled dated when it came out and and so it does it still it just feels a little -- -- -- -- a lot of just. Watching. You -- use. Lewd. It is if -- not just when you're doing it on a laptop you would that if it's flash it in my -- dangerous in the car. Right you can actually turn off those animations which is did and then there really is no reason to put animations in a card you know Kevin -- inner SP does. Yet when you're looking at it you're just looking at -- the but you need to push -- you're looking back of the road and you're looking back data to see what's in -- on now. You don't wanna see those animations happen or if they're happening they're not happen in -- look at that mission that the -- -- it was it was fairly basic. -- haven't except that it's good but it's not cutting edge. And that's why I think unity in our estimation -- technology you know protect it was like yeah that's okay but it's not some blown me away -- and you know. Not a connected car or anything like that. Right but I mean would I rather be seen in Audi Q I have more -- hearings -- -- -- -- out rather be seen in the -- and I just I mean it's. It all comes back to the styling and I hate to keep lake being that guy who's just in addition of the -- is a classic case of a form winning out over function for me. Because the -- -- that. The all wheel drive system the -- -- and it may or may not have a bit of a nonissue. When you're talking about the target market for -- -- in this vehicle. -- -- -- people want to be seen in a car when you're talking about what the premium vehicle. Premium soft Ruder I mean it's already kind of the vehicle -- exists for its added because it exists I'd definitely server purpose -- In so. You come down to the point -- -- discussing its islands just the the the of the you know it's. Feminine and masculine at the same time I feel like you you wouldn't feel you know less mainly driving this around -- at the same time like. You know a woman wouldn't -- -- she was riding around in very. She inflections and Jeep Wrangler -- it's way easier to get into and out of than any other -- program that I've ever driven edits which is stylist idiom -- macho right -- -- It's I guess it's kind of like you know -- suits are kind of -- designed around. Function if you look at. Certain styles of suit you'll see that there are based -- like writing year and so you know the original intention is that. You know you'd write a horse in this sort of outfit it was designed to be practical but then over years it becomes stylish and it has the same thing here where you can kind of see -- you see though the -- of the Land Rover and range for over styling cues so it but there's a echoing back to the sort of like yeah -- go anywhere in you know attractive Sahara Desert in whatever in this vehicle but. With Al sort of the the overtures. I think it borrows a lot from -- -- two which is interest in China where that jaguar and -- -- collusion definitely in the in -- but it was lifted. Until it out of -- jaguar out of it at that drive selector for example a good example but the also I think. The rear windows in this kind of remind me somewhat of the -- -- -- -- jet where I XJ. With a big sort of sunglasses out her window this also has that. That like to split sunglasses kind of thing -- looking in the back and that really narrow. Rear window -- -- Discard we have that the five door there's also coupe version. Now I don't know if you can actually get that in the US the cube version. But it would be primarily less functional because getting -- back seats you have to crawl over. The -- it's more of a -- and I believe it's already kind of looking like Mini Cooper thing for -- for a look at it you take off T doors. I mean yes it starts getting into Mini Countryman what's probably that debt net -- which looks you know -- -- a cap on top of that. Their because they have that the black colors -- -- the body -- roof. -- deftly as sort of a Mini Cooper look to it. One thing I've found to you from the -- and you didn't really -- experts of the revenue -- -- as much is that. A public lunged to -- when you're trying to drive to trying to keep a smooth steady pace. And menus give a little gas suddenly it's like it wants still light will be foreigners like what I wanted -- front -- -- -- -- -- in right rhetoric has that the land fit at. It you don't have enough -- At that -- that that maybe something I've seen a lot of videos online of people -- rivers and going up. Much but you know my meteor rocky services and it seems to do all right -- But it doesn't have that adapted to it doesn't have suspension and lift you can actually get a magnetic ride suspension for which shall make -- corner -- -- -- really well if -- Last around on roads -- But that doesn't really help you in situations where you're you're off road and you need more ground clearance. Say that will be of -- on the moon which is that I believe you should actually be. On the moon pan -- expecting to see -- plate. You know in in somebody's lake. The science fiction movie where the Ehrlich were on Mars -- revenue around that -- Al in the desert. Would like a red filter in the or interpret and and I believe it. I think we need a yet a third opinion -- from a family man in the room. Emits as far as. Putting your payment on -- -- a car you'd you'd prefer to do it in. The back is to move in the car seats on now. Speaks to kids take it and then -- the FC. And you know name and then -- -- Union City, California is thinking about making it. Changing it so that even if you're at the weight like -- -- -- -- eight years old here under a certain way you have to be -- That that's going to be serious dent says the advertising -- for -- girls gonna be really difficult for Bryant on revenues. Continued freedom. Thank you need. That -- and. Out of million acres seeds down in the front seat it was definitely -- -- -- -- -- -- By the hour rule 2012 ranger revoked the video and review or all online at CNET cars cars dot cnet.com -- check it out there. Let's take a look at what's in the CNET garage. So we just reviewed the Honda CRV. 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