2020 Polestar 1: What's the point? | Everyone's a Critic
And there you go.
So today we are in the, I don't think it has a model here, but it's the new Polestar 1.
Not the Volvo Polestar 1.
Not the Polestar P1, but the Polestar 1.
It's a really confusing naming scheme, but it's simple.
First car from Polestar.
[LAUGH] This is so much fun [LAUGH].
And so what you've just witnessed was the acceleration of its hybrid powertrain.
Because the first Volvo vehicle is gonna be a plug in hybrid.
And now Volvo Polestar 2 dude.
Damn it even I'm doing it now.
The first vehicle that we're in right now plug in hybrid.
Very powerful hybrid gasoline turbocharged supercharged engine up front, two electric motors out back.
758 pound feet of torque.
And now you're getting a taste of those big old beefy [UNKNOWN] breaks with a rotors bigger than me out of wheels.
Funny when you see that you're like wow, there's a lot of master stop here.
Yeah well it's a with all the battery.
Reason the hybrid power train.
It's a 5100
which is what we're doing today, everyone's a critic.
We're gonna be taking some of your feedback from our previous first drive in this vehicle.
When our editor in chief Tim Stevens drove a very early pre production version, and we're also gonna be taking the automaker to task about some of the flowery language Which they use in their press releases, and I can't wait to hear what the press, what the manufacturers say, because Volvo, like they're just note will, sorry, whole star.
How that's going to be so hard, dude.
Like you're, if Lexis had this much trouble in the first year, I don't think so because the LS didn't look anything like Toyota's lineup
looks like gumballs though
a hell of a lot.
Like an S. 60 Polestar designed.
All right, okay.
So what are the manufacturers saying?
So here we go.
An electric performance hybrid engineered without compromises and designed down to the micron.
To the micron.
Do you know how small a micron is?
I know how small a micron is?
A human hair is 50 microns across.
There is no way this is designed down to the To the [UNKNOWN]
Did they explain that?
No, that's just designed down to the [UNKNOWN] Which is interesting because on our first drive video, a whole lot of our readers pointed out the massive panel gaps on the pre production version.
Yeah, but that's a pre production Pre-production vehicle.
That happens on pre-production.
The one we're in today is closer to production.
And so the panel caps look a lot nicer.
The whole fit and finish of the vehicle looks a lot better.
I mean, you were saying earlier that it's a lot like an XC40 interior.
But I feel like the materials are a little bit Higher quality.
This actually feels a lot like the XC90 Inscription that has the crystal shifter.
Yes, yeah, yeah.
We've got something like that here.
Just general fit and finish, nice Nappa leather, carbon fiber here on the dashboard, which hints at the fact that the entire body of this vehicle is made with carbon fiber.
Is carbon fiber, baby!
Except the floor, which is steel.
But even that has an extra carbon fiber brace.
It's to stiffen up that chassis.
So here we go.
Okay, what else do we got?
Do we have anything from readers?
Tell you what we got, my phone.
Here we go.
Here's what we got, we'll just power through.
[CROSSTALK] manufacture we don't have a lot of it.
And we wanna dig right in to what you guys are saying also.
Polestar 1 is where world-class engineering and high-grade components meet uncompromised design.
Beautiful lines with powerful sculpted exterior surfaces are combined with state of the art technology underneath each and every part.
Every detail is there for a reason.
I mean, I'm not going to deny the sculpted part.
I mean, there's some pre like pretty intense creases out here on the body, especially on the side rear quarter panel and on the hood.
Like those creases a mean it mean business.
Flowery language but at the same time, I can get down with it, it's a great looking car.
A fantastic looking car.
They pulled off some very interesting tricks with the creases, thanks to the carbon fiber construction.
So they don't have to stamp the panels, they can actually do a little something different with them there.
And there is an interesting technology underneath.
We'll get into a second whether this is the technology that people want, but it's there and it's very interesting.
The use of carbon fiber has hugely influenced the overall form of Polestar one.
I'm unflappable, enabling a distinctive low roofline and creating a unique silhouette, which is kind of what we just talked on.
great looking car.
I just feel though like I do feel a little claustrophobic.
I mean, Well, I'm glad.
Yeah, I know.
But I think I'm five nine.
I'm not I cut my hair can't get much higher before it starts session.
And the roof of this car.
I don't know.
I feel like it's a good-sized vehicle.
Feels pretty good to me.
And I would say also that with the proportion.
One thing that I really like about the exterior of this vehicle is the sort of wheel-to-body ratio.
Yeah, it looks nice.
Definitely looks a whole lot
Like the concept that came before it, and also, it's got very like muscle car proportions.
Last bit from the manufacturer before we get into what you guys said, and that's gonna be both the interior and exterior design can be customized according to your preferences choose between six exclusive colors All available in metallic or Matte versions carefully selected to match the design of the vehicle, add a unique touch to your personal vehicle.
Add a unique touch to your personal choice of upholstery is not that unflappable turns out.
Rims and brightwork.
Make sure you get the Polestar 1 the way you want it.
I mean like kinda sort of, they're making it seem like as if it's bespoken.
Clearly not bespoken.
You got two interior choices, three wheel finishes.
And six colors, right?
Six Six colors or with with matte finish is technically it's 12 colors.
And then you got a choice between Matt or glossy black trim on the outside from that super bespoke.
There aren't even any options again on this vehicle when you pay your $155,000 Pollstar one, your only choice at that point or what color do you want it to be and you want to pay an extra five grand?
For your Mac finish.
And then 1500 bucks for destination charges, of course.
Not super customizable, but.
They're pushing the envelope there.
Pushing the envelope there.
Okay, what do people say what do I Say I'm interested.
Here's, [LAUGH] we got a lot of, it looks like a Volvo Mustang.
And that comes from Quinton on our YouTube video.
And that is what springs to mind when you see this car in profile.
It's got very old Mustang looks, the way the tail sorta scoops up.
Yeah, it scoops up.
And there's big haunches in the back for those 21 inch wheels, yeah.
Real muscle car-y.
Here we go.
We got one from Jameel Ja.
Great looking car but 15, I mean what, 5,100 pounds, yowzers.
There are pick-up trucks and full sized SUVs that weigh less than that, lol.
Yeah, but this thing has so much power though that that overcomes a lot of the weight.
And plus you gotta have batteries.
You gotta have batteries.
And that's the weight.
Center of mass has a lot to do with how cars feel.
But let me ask you like, Tim, when he drove this car earlier this year that you can't really feel the weight in the corners.
I didn't really feel like this was a heavy car when I was driving it.
How do you feel?
I don't feel like it's a really heavy car.
I mean, because I have plenty of like mid range torque because those electric motors.
Kickin, so I don't feel any of that I don't feel like it's going to get out of sorts with it because all of that mass is down low.
And then when I just tap on the brakes, these brakes are amazing and they really bite it and they slow it down really quickly.>> Well, let's see here.
This is an interesting one.
What is the point of this car that comes from the one anton?
Not me, Anton.
Well the point of this car is that it's the first car from pull start and it's a super turbo plug-in hybrid with like over 700 pound-feet of torque.
Well I think that sort of speaks to what a lot of people There's a sticker shock with this vehicle.
When you see $155,000.
And you see 700 pound feet, and then you see 5000 pounds.
Your mind starts going, is it supposed to be a performance cars?
Is it supposed to be a luxury car, is this a Maybach or is this an AMG.
[UNKNOWN] Like what is the vehicle trying to do?
And I think there is a little bit of confusion and pollsters messaging there, especially for this first one, I think that when they get into the P two the P three further on is they just start making volume electric cars.
The price gets a little bit lower because those aren't going to be full carbon fibre vehicles the what pulsars trying to do will start to make a lot of sense but this one.
It's a weird one.
And Polestar as a brand is going to be, Aah!
big branch in middle of the road.
I remembered that on the way up, and I was like you need to remember where that is.
Polestar wants to do all plug-in hybrids or fully electrics, right?
We're not going to see just internal combustion engines?
It's an electrified brand and so far they've announced this [UNKNOWN] and one fully electric model, which is the two It's volume sort of Tesla Model three fighter compact SUV looking thing.
So I believe going forward we might see a mix of plugins and fully electric.
But nothing is going to be just an internal combustion and.
No that's not the point of this brand so I guess that's
That's kind of the point.
Here we go, here's one from,
I cannot pronounce, Impionotespaul, so basically an i8?
[LAUGH] The i8, well is it?
But the IH looks wrote checks that its performance could not cash.
I really enjoyed having the aid and as soon as you like got it up to speed and in the corners It was a frickin blast and I love the way it looks but he didn't have the torque off the line at all this does.
This thing is way more fun when
When you put your foot right into it in line three 1.4 liters.
Yeah, it was a is a series hybrid, sort of like a volt.
So, I think that's one of my favorite things about hybrid vehicles is that there are so many ways to make.
Mix Gas and Electric, you got a Honda there with their sort of like he CVT system but then also they've got the NSF with a power train it's very similar to this one but flip backwards.
They've got their, there's like Toyota doing he all wheel drive there's BMW doing like range extended EV Pure battery electric.
It's the wild west when you say that something is a hybrid, what the hell's happening in the hood.
Yeah, what does it mean.
And I just find that so interesting.
But this power train is more or like the NSX [INAUDIBLE].
Yeah, I mean the i8 is great, I think it was a good design study, I think
It was a good thing to see if BMW drivers would go for a performance hybrid.
I just don't think that the performance part of it went far enough at all.
So here's one from a Hugo Fernandes talking about the way I saw a XC90
XC90 TG pull out of a junction, I have no doubts in the performance of this car.
That thing flew like a rat after eating a ghost pepper.
I just liked, rat after eating a ghost pepper.
[LAUGH] That's great!
That's the only reason [UNKNOWN] comments in here.
Yeah, and another reason why I really like these super turbo.
The super turbo power, well, and with the hybrid as well is that if you are someone that lives up in altitude, you don't face any penalties by any reduction in power.
At 12,000 feet, at sea level, you're gonna get the same amount of power under your right foot, which is really nice for those.
People who are living in colder weather climates.
Yeah, the first induction definitely solves a lot of problems.
And the interesting way they have this one sort of working as a supercharger off the line and then the turbocharger- when it kicks in, along with the sort of extra grunt of the electric motor up front, doing a assist to electric motors at the rear doing their thing, really good performance goals, no gap from the past.
And everything is Power.
No, no, no, and everything has been really seamless.
There's an eight speed automatic transmission on the front axle.
And I've not noticed a shift all day.
Even when I was hammering it.
No, no, no, not at all.
Here's one from Martin
Hubinette says for [SOUND] sake.
Someone, anyone, please just mount a Long inline engine in the front of a car, run that power to the rear wheels and then use the remaining engine bay space for two electric engines for the front wheels.
Slap batteries in the rear for weight distribution.
Torque vectoring, regenerative braking and all wheel drive.
How is no one thought of this?
It's the perfect 40 setup.
I don't your heart's in the right place and that sounds like it would be freaking awesome because you'd be able to basically perform like it basically perform like the unisex.
Yeah, that would be nice.
But the thing is unisex.
Has its engine at mid-ship's rear.
Because in your setup, there's a drive shaft that runs down the middle of the vehicle.
And you also have to cram two electric motors in the engine bay with a gasoline motor which already takes up the whole engine bay in this car.
Yeah, a lot of room.
You could have a really, really tiny engine.
Like a little one-liter, three cylinder [SOUND].
Sounds like what you want is the NSX's powertrain.
Train and I think everyone will agree that shift engine is better than front engine.
Again awesome, awesome comment.
I definitely like where your heart's at, where your brain's at there.
But it's already been done just without the [UNKNOWN].
Just go and get the NSX.
NSX needs a lot of flak.
No, you know what, honestly, I haven't had chance to drive the NSX.
I know that's not fair, I don't think I was in town.
But it's one of those cars where you get caught up in the numbers and you miss the point of the car.
So what would you rather have I know you've only spent a few hours in this car, would you rather go this or NSX?
Is it a good engine?
Well if I"m spending that much money on a car, it should like the future.
Should look like the few.
Yeah, I mean you know the unisex is also it bends more in the performance, direction it's, you know it has a very similar setup to this vehicle, but by flipping the [UNKNOWN].
By being low.
Yeah, and I would definitely feel more comfortable taking an NSF onto the track.
Or an auto cost than I would with this.
The vehicle is really good.
I think this would be a better daily driver.
Especially with that plug in hybrid power train.
With the ability to use full me put you back on that gasoline engine.
Power mode especially with the ability to.
The ability to have basicaaly two cars in one here, a very quite but sporty vehicle, but still also a bit of a monster when you want it.
It definitely makes a better daily driver.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Okay, we've got a stright-a-way here, so I'm gonna take it because it's gonna
Gonna be fun.
I'm gonna attempt to read a question while you do that,>> Okay, when you are ready
we got a couple of,
Wait, is that a cop?
you gotta tell me if you're a cop.
Okay, ready 3 2 1 [LAUGH] Well my foot is to the floor and that's that's too bad.
that's really fast, Not bad.
No.Sounds really good for forbing?>> Yeah, I mean not a lot of noise gets into the cabin but again, they're not going for this that performance car feel and you can just hear it just enough in the engine to be like, freaking awesome but not enough that you're like sorry Nick,
But still, on the subject of the power train, we got a couple of responses two readers that asked the same- Actually a lot of readers but here are two that stand out.
I'm disappointed that it is not fully electricby Devil Gaara 8. And but why is it a bhybrid?
Just make it fully electric, by Rick James
Like Super Freak Rick James?
That Rick James.
I didn't know he was really interested in doing it.
Specifically him, not some random person on the internet who used Rick James as their YouTube.
Well no, we've already talked about that.
That's what's gonna happen with the pulse star two.
I think with this vehicle, you've got a contingency of people who Who's got excited about a car that looks like this but is full electric.
And that's what the Polestar 2 is gonna be, right?
[CROSSTALK] But Polestar 2 is gonna be like kinda cutsie, compact car.
[CROSSTALK] It's not gonna be this.
It's not gonna be the E trying
[UNKNOWN], which is-
Also there's a lot of people in this country that don't live near infrastructure where they can have a fully electrical vehicle whereas this-
Different strokes for different folks, I agree 100% with you there.
There's different types of [UNKNOWN] that work for different people.
We just gotta a charger at the house, I'm super stocked Yeah, so I'm just going to take this home and plug it in to me level two charger.
You're not taking this one home.
So, along the lines of like disappointment in this not being an electric, not fully electric vehicle, we asked
Asked from the road show account on our YouTube video.
Which would you rather have?
This hybrid pole star one, or the upcoming electric pole star 2?
Let's see what the readers say.
It was split three ways between a third of the people wanting the pole star one, a third of the people wanting the pole star two, And a third of them.
Wanting like a charger hellcat?
A third of them wanted neither.
The most often cited vehicle was a high performance Tesla, because I think a lot of people again.
There's probably a contingency of people who have a bunch of money they want to spend on a performance vehicle, but they feel like a plug in hybrid's a half step.
Here we go, The External is clean and classic with nice light attributes.
The powertrain is as sad as an engine should, wait-
The powertrain is sad-
As the engine should be unique, extra-special for this price category.
They probably regret going with the hybrid, as their timing for BEV was just a bit off.
They should make a 2.5 second BEV in the next version to justify the price.
That comes from.
What is the zero to sixty on this, do you know?
I don't know?
Do you want to find out?
No, we already just did that.
I mean we are on a public road so we shouldn't do that.
I don't know the number off the top of my head, but we do have a full first drive and a second drive on theroadshow.com, and then we've also got an in depth ride from editor in chief Tim Stevens where you can find out a little bit Bit more info This is more of a feedback show.
Hassan Ger says ugly boring and slow process agree with all of this?
Who in their right mind would choose this crap over an M8 or an LC500?
Totally different cars.
Yeah, well, the LC is sort of, they're both GTs.
They're both expensive.
Ft coupe so they're not exactly totally different cars.
But I think that also sort of falls in that neither one of those is as exclusive as this.
There is somebody who wants to get this first, fully carbon fiber Pollstar vehicle added to their collection and fit in the garage.
So sad What would it be like to be able to have a car collection?
I'll never find out on Roadshow salary.
The best I could hope for is a small Miata collection.
Or the Jeep.
Let's see here.
We got one from Dusan Skebic who is waiting for the Etron GT.
You and me both buddy.
But I think the interesting thing about the Etron GT is I think much like with the Etron SUV that just dropped earlier this year.
People are going to wait on that GT when it comes out Next door are gonna nitpick it.
Because it's only gonna have 250 miles of electric range and Tesla fans are gonna come out of the woodwork to remind you of that everyday.
But it looks amazing.
This car looks amazing.
I am also Really excited about driving and you trying a GT.
My god, it's so much fun.
We got a whole lot of readers, basically everyone else, who came out of the woodwork, who came to our video from seeing this vehicle in the Need for Speed Heat trailer.
You know what the Need for Speed Heat is?
It's a video game.
So this car features as one of the hallmark cars in the Need for Speed e-video.
That's super cool.
Have you played it?
Well, it's not out yet.
But half of you saw the car in that video, in that trailer, came to our site and wanted to see what it was all about.
And then A quarter of those are a little bit disappointing.
[LAUGH] But it's a polarizing vehicle this Polestar.
That's how you're going to remember what the brand is, it's polarizing Polestar.
I'm just going to keep calling it a Volvo and hope that they don't notice.
On our first drive on the website we got one from Marcogman.
He says looks great but not enough for the money.
You're buying a Volvo experiment and one that is woefully underperforming, where the market should be currently 100 miles electric with great front wheel drive performance?
Regardless of carbon fiber plastics and all that brings, this should have been the state of the Volvo line about a year ago and for a lot less.
They are basically selling their expense to move to the future.
Unfortunately, you buy the present Maybe the recent past when compared to what we will have this year from others.
And what is Tesla already brought?
That's a pretty.
It's a pretty good [LAUGH]
It's well thought out when you took the time to leave it and I mean, I can understand that sentiment.
Yeah and it's definitely one that a lot of our readers share the that.
State of the art is EV now.
People get excited about EVs.
I am excited about the upcoming Toyota Mirai.
Yeah, it looks so good.
Because I'm still a hydrogen dude.
I think people in their head when they, Hear hybrid, they still think Prius.
They still think->> They still think boring, sitting in the fast lane at 55 miles an hour with no get up and go [CROSSTALK] and that's not what we've got these days.
People's notions about the architecture of this vehicle, what with the gasoline engine only being connected to the front wheels.
The first thing they think is it's front wheel drive car.
But it's actually mostly rear wheel drive, in the front wheel drive only kick in when they're needed or under performance mode it's actually more of a 50/50 split.
This isn't a front wheel drive car.
I mean, in theory if all of your electrics went out.
Then sure, it would be a front wheel drive car but-
It'd be front wheel drive car, but this car would never operate under those conditions.
You have a lot problems if, [LAUGH] all your electrics go out on your Polestar.
But definitely a messaging issue this vehicle, with the Polestar brand.
And you've gotta think that somebody on their team is scrambling right now like, we put out this high performance hybrid, and everyone's talking EVs, EVs, EVS.
[LAUGH] And as a first step for their brand, I mean it's a gorgeous car.
So they're gonna win that.
It's a great performing car.
They're gonna win that.
But when people start doing that sort of like bench racing, when they're like Sunday morning, Monday morning, [CROSSTALK] quarterbacking, the car doesn't look great.
And since it's also super exclusive, they're only selling about 1,500, they may only be 50 to a 100 in the United States.
Most people would never get to drive them to wipe that notion away.
And so, as a first step for their brand, this is not a great one, even though it's a great vehicle I don't think it's great step for their brand.
But hindsight 2020, right?
All right, well we're almost back to our HQ here [UNKNOWN] Today so what else you got anything else?
Let's see here we got one from Andrew sartin says 11 would come and start with let's be honest about adaptive suspension okay, it's okay for rental cars reviewers who give the car back right away and the will to do but a $400 corner plus installation is it.
Expensive pain in the ****.
Going through IPD isn't going to save you any money.
And I think this in reference to the fact that these are these Olins dampers, we've got an east corner manually adjustable but they're good old fashioned dampers not an adaptive suspension.
So in order to get any.
Any kind of different suspension I'd have to go in with a couple of tools.
No you just pop the hood and you turn that bad boy with [INAUDIBLE].
I think a lot of people were complaining that this car, this expensive doesn't have like a fancy adapter I set out right.
And, what Andrew here is saying is that it's not really worth the money.
He also says that even Honda's new adaptive struts are $400 each in the parts category.
And that's a pointlessly bad value for car like the Accord.
I think if you're spending $150,000 you probably got money for struts on this.
I also don't think this car will ever be driven enough that you're wearing those struts out.
No, no, no.
But I agree with every
When you get into a car that has adaptive suspension?
Don't you just always put it on sport?
I usually go normal or comfort because I live in Oakland, California.
I live in Oakland, world's worst second only to Detroit, Michigan.
Were worst worlds in the world.
Worst world in the world?
Worst world in the world.
At that point, it simply.
This is a different one from these last two.
At that point this' simply a collector's car.
Somebody who can say that they have one of the only 50 Polestars ever built.
Yeah, that [INAUDIBLE]
Honestly, $150,000 I can get a high performance vehicle with the assurance of a legacy brand name.
If you're a new carmaker and you wanna establish your brand, you sell average cars that perform at above average.
a-la-Kia Put that in there for a shout out to somebody who clearly appreciates the kia stinger as much as we do.
Yeah i guess he usually
Yeah the kia stinger i think i don't think it did as much for the Kia brand
as they were hoping
as old as well
which is too bad, it's so much fun
but again that is what doesn't matter
we're not talking about.
About the Kia Stinger, we were talking about the Polestar.
Tell me about the Kia Stinger.
We've got time.
Well, the only thing I didn't like about the Kia Stinger is that there was you had to put it into sport mode to get anything out of it.
It was the first thing I did was start the car, click, click over to sport mode.
Well, that's the point of sport mode, isn't it?
Yeah, but comfort mode was just such a drag.
It was like you-
But it was not even
It was a [UNKNOWN] more comfortably but then like a throttle was super Muted and the shifts were lazy and i was just like this is terible
[UNKNOWN] you would like the B-M-W empire which is entirely too firm even in comfort mode think that's the point to drive the car to the field different between the modes wasn't even the point
It was too comfy it was too large
All right, last one.
Funny thing, I owned an S60 Polestar, this is from pmind, P-M-I-N-D, I pronounced that wrong.
Funny thing, I owned an S60 Polestar for about three months.
And just like this car, the power delivery was impressive but the transmission was abysmal.
Just like this car?
Not driven this car.
It was really, truly terrible.
I has assumed it was just because Polestar had to work with the existing S60 platform, but here we are again.
No, we already talked about [UNKNOWN].
The transmission of the vehicle-
I don't know if, maybe other people have had other experiences, but-
Where's, I do have a manual mode here.
Is this a flip over, or just a [UNKNOWN]?
You got [UNKNOWN] shifters that you can use for them, but-
I mean, they don't.
You don't effect the electric motors at all with that.
But the polyshifters, it shifts it pretty quickly.
It's like the equivalent of hopping in a Tesla and saying it doesn't change gears fast.
That's not really the point of gears.
The other thing is that PMI, whatever.
The only thing this person brings up.
You stay right there.
That there is that idea again, that there's a lot of platform sharing with your regular 50 thousand
[UNKNOWN] Dollar normal.
Yeah, I think that can be [UNKNOWN] a little bit less special for people who are you know.
And [UNKNOWN] but [UNKNOWN] and I rose that concern with them.
It was pointed out to me that only 50% of the parts in this vehicle are shared with any other mobile.
The other 50% are bespoke Pollstar bits.
A lot of that is gonna be mean you know the entire chassis and white.
Is basically unique except for the floor, which is shortened.
But yeah, it's a very different vehicle, but I think that's also sort of the nature of.
True of the way cars are built now.
Every manufacturer's moved to a modular platform.
Yeah, isn't the Volkswagen Atlas is the same platform as the Golf or something crazy like that?
They are both on the same platform.
The same platform and it's like two entirely separate vehicles.
One's a big 'ol three-row SUV and the other is-
And then that little hatchback.
Tiny little heads back and just the nature of the beast is that you know, you can you can develop a lot faster.
You can be a lot more like cost effective.
Yeah, that's the thing here.
But when you're when you're dealing with you're not doing Reinventing the wheel with every other vehicle.
Deal different and I would wager that even the Pollstar to the fully electric one that's coming out is going to share something either absolute MTA or the CMA platform from Volvo, because those platforms were built with electrification in mind.
So I mean, the best you can really hope for is that when these platforms are designed that they are designed.
With someone who has poor thinking.
So that's been.
Everyone's good at it.
That's it, everyone's comments.
[UNKNOWN] for you right here so we can read them at
Respond to them in the vehicle that we've been talking about.
So as I've mentioned a couple of times before, we've got a full first drive over on theroadshow.com.
We've got a full second drive over on theroadshow.com.
So you can get my opinion Opnion and editor in chief Tim Stevens opinion about this vehicle right over there.
We've got a walk around too.
We've got a complete walk around where we look at the exterior of this vehicle and some of the design.
And this is a new format for us, we're trying some new things.
So, why don't you let us know in the comments below whether you like it or not.
What would you like us to do differently?
And we'll take that into advisement.
Until nex time.
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