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Yup Another Windows 7 Question.. sorry : /

Jul 7, 2009 10:11AM PDT

Ok Folks I just have a simple question for the super geeks out there. Would it be beneficial to replace my 32bit XP w/ Windows 7? To be honest the only reason I think it might be is because of the fact W7 is 64 bit the way I understand it and I'm thinking that would give my system a little bit more power?

Here's all my stats:
Dell XPS 700

Processor: Intel(R) Core(TM)2 CPU 6600 @ 2.40GHz (2 CPUs), ~2.4GHz

Memory: 4096MB RAM
Hard Drive: 244 GB

Video Card: NVIDIA GeForce 7900 GTX

Sound Card: Speakers (Creative SB X-Fi)

Operating System: Windows XP S3 32bit

If you need more info please let me know and thanks in advance to anyone who gives me a hand.

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A little, yes...
Jul 7, 2009 10:30AM PDT

Windows 7 x64 would enable you to use all of your RAM, whereas Windows x86 limits you to around 3.5GB after addressing the memory of other hardware. Do not expect much, if any, performance increases in Windows or running applications over Windows XP, though.

Regardless, note that Windows 7 RC is still available, so you may consider downloading a free copy and taking it for a spin (dual-boot with Windows XP) to see if you like the features that have been added the past 7 years.

See the forum sticky for details.

Hope this helps,
John

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(dual-boot with Windows XP)
Jul 7, 2009 10:40AM PDT

Thanks for the info bud. I am wondering about Dual-booting though. If I buy the upgrade addition of windows 7 and install that on top of my Windows XP and then on another partition drive install the original Xp again w/ out the upgrade. Will I run into an issue of one install per OS? Basically will I be able to use that original Xp disk twice in a sense? I know this is a different proposal then what you had mention, but long term this sounds interesting.

And just confirm for me, windows 7 is 64bt only correct?

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Clarification...
Jul 7, 2009 12:05PM PDT

-> If you purchase the upgrade edition of Windows 7, you may not use your copy of Windows XP unless/until you remove Windows 7 until. Both cannot be installed at the same time, on any computer. If you purchase a retail or OEM copy, though, you can install both Windows XP and Windows 7 once each.

-> Windows 7 comes in both 32-bit and 64-bit flavors, with both DVDs included in each retail package. Your choice which one to use.

Hope this helps,
John

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Will I Be able to use the upgrade addtion to go from....
Jul 7, 2009 12:14PM PDT

Will I Be able to use the upgrade addtion to go from Windows 32bit to Windows 7 64bit or would I need a full version to move from 32 to 64 bit?

My last question is how can I find out if my processor can use the XP mode in windows 7 professional?

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Upgrading...
Jul 7, 2009 2:41PM PDT

-> Yes, you can use the Upgrade edition, but Windows XP users must perform a clean install using the upgrade DVD.

-> The Intel E6600 is capable of supporting XPMode. For reference, most recent AMD processors are fully capable, but you'll want to consult this posting to identify which Intel processors have the capability.

Hope this helps,
John

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Upgrading
Jul 8, 2009 12:36AM PDT

Ok I do have another question. I do see that the upgrade software for windows 7 comes packed with 32bit & 64bit. I'm currently running XP 32bit, I have an upgrade to Vista 32bit disk and I'm wondering is there anyway I can buy just the upgrade to windows 7 and go to 64bit Or do I have to buy the Full version?

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Upgrade is fine...
Jul 8, 2009 1:54AM PDT

Just keep in mind that you cannot upgrade/convert from a 32-bit operating system to a 64-bit operating system, or vice versa. Thus, you can purchase the upgrade copy at a reduced price, but must use it to perform a clean install, regardless of whether you're using Windows XP or Windows Vista.

John

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upgrading
Jul 8, 2009 2:12AM PDT

So are you saying I could buy the upgrade version of Windows 7, reformat/clean the disk and then install W7 64bit?

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Microsoft Says...
Jul 8, 2009 2:25AM PDT

I sent an email to customer service at Microsoft and this is what they told me about upgrading from Xp 32bit to W7 64bit. They claim I have to buy a Full Version of Windows 7 to switch from 32bit to 64bit. I've been reading a lot of the forums and it didn't look like I needed the full verison, does anyone know for sure. Maybe they are just trying to get me to spend more money?

MICROSOFT:
"Dear Ben,

Thank you for contacting Microsoft Store. I appreciate the opportunity to be able to provide you some information on upgrading your operating system.

If you are currently running a 32-bit version of Windows, you can only perform an upgrade to another 32-bit version of Windows. Similarly, if you are running a 64-bit version of Windows, you can only perform an upgrade to another 64-bit version of Windows.

If you want to move from a 32-bit version of Windows to a 64-bit version of Windows, you'll need to back up your files then perform a clean installation, as well as purchase a full version of the operating system.

If you wish to read more about the 32-bit and 64-bit upgrade options, you can check out the link provided below:

http://windowshelp.microsoft.com/Windows/en-US/Help/41531554-d5ef-4f2c-8fb9-149bdc5c8a701033.mspx



If you have any further questions or wish to place an order, you may do so online at www.microsoftstore.com, or reach us by phone Monday - Friday 8am - 1am EST, and Saturday and Sunday 12pm and 8pm EST by calling 1-877-MY-MSSTORE (1-877-696-7786).

Thank you for using the Microsoft Store,

Noel B.
The Microsoft Store Customer Support Team"

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That is incorrect...
Jul 8, 2009 3:19AM PDT

I hate to disagree with Microsoft support, but Windows XP 32-bit users are/will be able to purchase the upgrade copy of Windows 7 and use it to perform a clean installation, regardless of being 32-bit or 64-bit. In fact, retail packaging will include both 32-bit and 64-bit DVDs that use the same product key, just like Windows Vista Ultimate, and it is not possible to directly upgrade from Windows XP to Windows 7, regardless of being 32-bit/64-bit. This has been confirmed by multiple sources and I have been told nothing different by the Windows 7 dev team.

John

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sweet
Jul 8, 2009 4:29AM PDT

Well that is great news, I think I'm going to buy the Windows 7 Professional Upgrade while it is on sale.

I do have another question though lol, I know I'm full of them. I assume Windows 7 Professional will have everything windows 7 Home upgrade would and more right?

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upgrading
Jul 8, 2009 4:33AM PDT

OH and going from XP Media Center addition to W7 Professional addition wouldn't matter either I'd assume?

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Yes to both...
Jul 8, 2009 6:11AM PDT

The forum sticky notes that Windows 7 Professional has everything Windows 7 Home Premium does, and then some, and you can upgrade from any edition of Windows XP to Windows 7 Professional.

Hope this helps,
John

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Download a free tool here from Intel.
Jul 22, 2009 10:49AM PDT
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Thanks
Jul 8, 2009 7:01AM PDT

Thanks John For all your help Happy

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I'm back hehe
Jul 22, 2009 3:54AM PDT

Oks So I was reading through some of the other posts and found this:

"6.) License/Media: A retail copy of Windows 7 generally includes only an x86 DVD unless you purchase Windows 7 Ultimate, which includes both. However, Microsoft will ship you a DVD containing either edition for the cost of shipping and handling. Further, note that a retail Windows 7 license works for both x86 and x64 editions, provided you?re only using the product key to activate one installation at any given time. This does not apply to pre-installed OEM copies of Windows 7 from HP, Dell, Sony, etc, which are governed by a different set of licensing restrictions. Edge: 32-bit"

So my question is how does this work for me. I have 32-bit windows xp disk that came w/ my Dell XPS and I ordered Windows 7 Professional upgrade disk & download from microsoft. Will I still be able to reformat and install Windows 7 Professinal 64-bit?

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Yes, but...
Jul 22, 2009 6:34AM PDT

Since you cannot cross the 32-bit/64-bit divide, or directly upgrade from Windows XP to Windows 7, it will require a 'custom' (clean) installation, forcing you to reinstall all applications, restore all files from backup, et cetera. Windows Easy Transfer, however, can simply the process of transferring many of your current settings, reducing the workload a bit.

Hope this helps,
John

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Its almost here :)
Oct 18, 2009 6:50AM PDT

So heres another stupid question hehe. When I go to do the install for Windows 7 will it prompt and ask me 32bit or 64bit or will I have to do something special to ensure I'm installing the correct one.

Just a reminder I'll be doing a reformat from Windows XP.

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Retail versions of win 7
Jan 3, 2010 10:08AM PST

come with 2 disks, one for 32 and one for 64bit. The product key applies to either one or the other at any one time not both together.
HTH

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upgrading from XP
Jan 5, 2010 5:41AM PST
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dont do it yet
Jan 3, 2010 4:17AM PST

i would hold out until sp1. this is the same old microsoft song and dance, releasing things before they are ready. 7 has some problems reportedly. freezing up etc. think too, that the 64 bit has more problems than the 32bit one.
if you insist on doing it, my recomendation would be to do a custom install rather than a in place upgrade.
windows 95 deza vu.