XP SP3. . .

where the pack info does not tell EVERYTHING the pack does and the files within and that goes back a long time before XP.

Even should such a thing happen you can always unpack the service pack without installing it to see the files yourself.

SP2 isn't broken. Vista is and XP SP-3 makes me nervous. IE7 will never be on my PCs.

At least as much of a good thing as IE can be given it's rampant security issues and horribly horribly broken rendering engine. You do not want to know the amount of effort web developers have to go to to make a page look "right" in IE, when every other browser works just fine using standard (X)HTML code.

Of course IE7 is worlds closer to being standards compliant than IE6 ever was, which is really good for everyone. Web developers can spend less time futzing with things to make a page work with IE (or maintaining two different stylesheets, one specifically for IE stupidity) and spend more time on the actual page layout and content. Users don't have to worry about what browser they're using, since the page will look pretty much the same no matter what. Meaning you're not tied to a particular browser, or even a particular operating system. If you wanted to get a Mac and use Safari, or Linux with Firefox, the site would work.

You need to stop fearing change. Change is part of life, as is adapting to those changes. It's one of the defining qualities of being human. The capacity for, and ability to adapt to, change. If everything stayed exactly the same, life would be boring. You can't stop things from changing, it's inevitable, but you can decide how you're going to view change. You can try to resist it, and it will be a rather unpleasant experience, or you can embrace it and marvel at new wonders, learn new things, gain new experiences... Life is change, deal with it, and stop your whining.

Another lesson from you.

"And thats the end of class today folks".

people who actually want change...we just want it to be better than what the vendor or software author decides is best for us.

I don't fear change...I just want OPTIONS to put things the way I want them to be. If I don't want an Internet Explorer bar that can't be moved by THEIR choice, let me dump it or make it moveable. If I don't want their branded and locked in Google Search, make it easy to dump it and choose my own.

You really take yourself to a level of importance with your views that you try to cram down our throats much too often. If I liked Macs or Linux with Firefox or Safari, I would already be using them. I've tried them over the years (change isn't something I fear), and no thank you. Change is part of life...however, even in the real world of change, most of us have options we can look at before we make those changes. When options are left to people and programs out of our control, that isn't change....that's decision making taken away from us, put into their hands alone, and I'm not interested in making decisions for myself based on half truths.

Did Linux ever state on their websites years ago that in order to use the program that was free that you had to jump through hoops to not only get the program itself, but every single add-on that made most things work? Nooooooo.....and users of Linux were all geeks to the max who kept that information almost a sacred secret about how to go about setting up a system for it and getting what you needed. I went down that road years ago in the CallForHelp forum here before it was changed to Computer Help....no geeky Linux user would give you (me) any information about what dev files (or whatever) were required to be downloaded. They gave you a link and said 'figure it out'. The heck with that advice.

Granted, things have changed alot since then, but I'm perfectly happy with my Windows and IE6. If MS ever decided to do away with QuickLaunch, I would shut down my computer and walk away. QL, since IE4 when it came out, has been my life's soul-mate. Never saw any other toolbar that could match it...on ANY operating system. I roll with the flow on most everything that Windows has made changes to...some I detest (such as the Luna desktop since it's the most complicated piece of trash I've ever encountered so I stay with Classic), some I love. Some are just a PITA that I usually can find a work around for, such as the CMD.EXE file (I keep a shortcut to it in QL so I don't have to use RUN to get there).

The point is....I love OPTIONS. When there are NO options for ME to make choices with, that change isn't an option for me.

TONI

I wont ever put SP3 on nor will I upgrade to Vista, in the far foreseeable future. I simply have no need. I'd still be on Windows 2000 if Windows Live Messenger and my Virtualisation apps worked on it. Which with this machine, they dont.