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Worst heat wave in 50 years in Rio de Janeiro kills 32

Feb 15, 2010 11:39PM PST

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Israel basks in longest winter heat wave in almost 40 years
Feb 15, 2010 11:42PM PST
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temperatures of more than 50 degrees in South Africa
Feb 15, 2010 11:45PM PST
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Ostrich Breeding Farms
Feb 16, 2010 6:49AM PST

High temperatures in a desert is not that surprising. There are pictures in second link which remind me of Death Valley the year it was unseasonably wet and bloomed.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oudtshoorn

The town is home to the world's largest Ostrich population with a number of specialized ostrich breeding farms. With 80,336 inhabitants it is the largest town in the Little Karoo region. 1859 also signalled the start of a long and serious drought which severely depressed the national economy - by 1865 there was serious poverty. When the drought was finally broken by floods in 1869 the depression lifted.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Karoo
The Karoo is a semi-desert region of South Africa. It has two main sub-regions - the Great Karoo in the north and the Little Karoo in the south.

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High temperatures in a desert is not that surprising
Feb 16, 2010 9:45AM PST

Snow in the winter is not that surprising.

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I think it surprised...
Feb 16, 2010 11:33AM PST

I think it surprised the people living in the area where I own a farm. Before, the record for snow fall total was 38 inches. As of the 15th of this month, it was 52.6 inches. And of course, the month isn't over yet.

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But it's still winter
Feb 16, 2010 12:39PM PST

when it snows in the summer in the area where you own a farm...

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don't bury your head...
Feb 16, 2010 6:53PM PST

...in the sand over this. There is the usual, then there is the unusual. Cold in winter and Heat in Summer is the usual. Record snowfall is the unusual, no matter what time of year it comes. Record heat would be unusual, no matter what time of year it comes. In at leat the Africa location you mentioned, I don't find it unusual there. I haven't checked for Brazil, but I do know the Amazon there is not a cool summer retreat.

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don't bury your head
Feb 16, 2010 8:48PM PST

...in the snow over this.

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no ostrich here
Feb 16, 2010 8:59PM PST

and if they were, I doubt they'd do the same in snow.

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Global Warmers are rushing there now
Feb 16, 2010 1:33AM PST

That's the data they want, the rest they will lose.

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And GW deniers are avoiding it like the plague....
Feb 16, 2010 10:43PM PST

...since it's not the data THEY want. Seems that snow in Chicago in January is proof enough to them that GW is a myth.

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Can you back that statement up?
Feb 16, 2010 11:05PM PST

Weather is local. It is NOT climate. But when someone (Al Gore, say) predicts warm winters and the opposite occurs, it must be pointed out.

Hot weather in the summer is NOT proof of Global Warming. There have been man y unusually hot or unusually cold spells all over the world in the past.

The AGW theory is collapsing not because of cold winters, but because the "scientists " have been show to have fabricated their data.

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Yeah, but it's also fun when...
Feb 16, 2010 11:37PM PST

...God dumps 3 feet of snow into Washington, shutting it down for a few days.

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(NT) Isn't it hard to have "fun/laugh" while shoveling snow?
Feb 17, 2010 3:35AM PST
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Well in Washington...
Feb 17, 2010 4:00AM PST

Well, in Washington the same can be said about shoveling some else that is shoveled a lot, in all parts of the year (grin).

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Wrong, Ed
Feb 17, 2010 3:17AM PST

Al Gore and others predicted more EXTREME weather due to GW. Snow in winter is not proof that GW is bogus.

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Never said it was....
Feb 17, 2010 5:27AM PST

But most of his predictions have proved to be wrong. Are you not aware of the huge scandal surrounding AGW data?

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You never said it was "bogus"
Feb 17, 2010 5:34AM PST

You just said

"The AGW theory is collapsing not because of cold winters, but because the "scientists " have been show to have fabricated their data."

It was based on lies?

You're killing us Ed.

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you have yet to show...
Feb 17, 2010 5:44AM PST

...how what happens in the southern hemisphere has a direct bearing on weather in the northern hemisphere. Even many of the Global Warming group have been suggesting there is no correlation between the two hemispheres in regard to the Global Warming Hypothesis. There are actually planets with atmospheres in our own solar system where one hemisphere shows a wide divergence in temperatures from the other.

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A thought
Feb 17, 2010 5:47AM PST
Snow in winter is not proof that GW is bogus

Since you didn't say that/believe/agree (or perhaps you just didn't say that) and you believe/agree


I'm wondering in why you don't respond to James and others that think it is.

I try not to give it a second thought.
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hmm, if snow cover
Feb 17, 2010 5:56AM PST

in the US doesn't qualify to show the fallacy of global warming, then why not too long ago you were going on about lack of ice in the Arctic like it was some proof of global warming? Like having it both ways to suit you? Or just another course in flawed logic?

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to borrow Dango's expression.
Feb 17, 2010 5:57AM PST

thread untracked. I'll not contribute to keeping it at the top of the forum anymore.

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Like having it both ways to suit you?
Feb 17, 2010 5:57AM PST

If it works for you it works for me