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Wolfowitz to Resign From World Bank

May 17, 2007 2:49PM PDT

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Hopefully Bush will appoint someone even more committed
May 17, 2007 8:00PM PDT

to reform. Plain and simple, this was a hatchet job to remove someone who was going to cost many World Bank employees their cushy way of life.

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Wolf in the henhouse?
May 17, 2007 9:49PM PDT
this was a hatchet job to remove someone who was going to cost many World Bank employees their cushy way of life

HOW?

By giving all the cushy jobs to his friends?
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No, by ending the corruption there
May 18, 2007 6:16AM PDT

As for Wolfowitz, he only gave his girlfriend the job under the guidance of the ethics board there. As far as I know, there have been no other allegations of nepotism or corruption on his part.
As for the rest of the World Bank employees, there have been many accusations of corruption.

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Too bad
May 17, 2007 11:02PM PDT

a certain other president didn't resign when he got his girlfriend a cushy job

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Huh?
May 18, 2007 1:13AM PDT

I'll bite... who in the world are you talking about?

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Hello... Bill and Monica?
May 18, 2007 1:21AM PDT

Don't you remember those golden days?

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(NT) And what job did Bill get Monica?
May 18, 2007 1:45AM PDT
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The other way around...
May 18, 2007 1:55AM PDT

Monico gave Bill a job... Sorry couldn't resist.

Anyway, The Wolf will be gone and the World Bank will probably continue to be leaded the same way...

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If, you were shown that
May 18, 2007 2:10AM PDT

Vernon Jordan attempted to help get Monica a job because of her relationship with the President, will it change anything here?

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Duck Man...
May 18, 2007 2:36AM PDT

In the past, I have helped friends, girl friends, and loved ones get jobs through personal connections I have.


The way you phrased your comment led me to think you were intimating Billy had got Lewinsky a job at the WH or some other job directly under his supervision (assume the pun if it makes you feel better). Far as I could tell... he didn't.

Was getting Vernon Jordan to help Lewinsky get a job at Revlon unethical? I suppose it would under certain circumstances. Is it comparable to what Wolfawitz did with his girlfriend? From what I can tell... not really.

My understanding of Wolfawitz's girlfriend is that she is an extremely capable women who was fully qualified for the job she got. What is questionable is the methodology Wolfawitz used to put her there.

Apples and oranges DM. Quit living in the past... modern day life is just as interesting on its' own.

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Best employment history for ML I can find lists...
May 18, 2007 2:20AM PDT

...

--Monica Lewinsky got a White House internship in 1995. That?s an unpaid position working in the White House

--Lewinsky by all accounts had a major crush on Clinton. She got herself a paid job with the Office of Legislative Affairs, and was eventually transferred to work very close to him.

--on one of the Lnda Tripp Tapes... On one of the excerpts of the tapes that Newsweek has released, Lewinsky states that she already had a government job when she got involved with Clinton.

-- Clinton's former Deputy Chief of Staff, Evelyn Lieberman says that she forced Lewinsky to transfer to the Pentagon because she was behaving ?inappropriately? around the President ? wearing super short dresses, and being too flirtatious.

-- Lewinsky visited the Oval Office 37 times after her transfer, logging in as coming to visit Clinton?s private secretary, Betty Currie, who is famously loyal and discreet. Her immediate supervisor at the Pentagon said it was not part of her job to visit the White House.

She visited as recently as December 28, 1997, according to the Washington Post. That was 20 months after she stopped working at the White House, and 11 days after she was subpoenaed by Paula Jones' lawyers, and 10 days before she filed her affidavit denying an affair with Clinton. It was also 2 days after she quit her Pentagon job and 2 days before she had Vernon Jordan-arranged interviews with Revlon and Burson-Marsteller in New York City. (Revlon offered her a job; Burson-Marsteller did not.)

-- One of her new co-workers at the Pentagon was Linda Tripp, one of only two Bush Administration holdovers, and a woman who had testfied against the Clinton White House in the ?filegate? incident. She had tried to sell an expose book on Clinton, including a chapter on Clinton?s women, for $500,000 to a conservative publisher (Regnery, which published Gary Aldrich's widely discredited book) but was turned down by publishers.


These are all excerpts from Bill Clinton's Skeleton Closet


Did Clinton get her a job at the Pentagon? Maybe... I can't find any definitive reference. Did he get her a job with the Federal government? All evidence I have read here and other places would indicate she did got it on her own through other means.

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Here
May 18, 2007 2:27AM PDT

From the Starr report

"VII. There is substantial and credible information that President Clinton endeavored to obstruct justice by helping Ms. Lewinsky obtain a job in New York at a time when she would have been a witness against him were she to tell the truth during the Jones case. "

Go read the Starr report for the rest

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Yeah ummm...
May 18, 2007 2:41AM PDT

... a totally different issue from what you originally raised and again has nothing to do with Wolfawitz's situation.

please refer to... LINK

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Was getting Vernon Jordan...
May 18, 2007 4:22AM PDT
to help Lewinsky get a job at Revlon unethical?

Tes. It was. There is a difference between this and Wolfowiz's situation though. Wolfowiz did not get his girlfriend a job in order to obstruct justice.
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Quite so...
May 18, 2007 5:43AM PDT

... which again shows that comparing the 2 is nonsense.

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Or would be if..
May 18, 2007 6:00AM PDT

they weren't so similar.

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That is an allegation, not a finding
May 18, 2007 5:26AM PDT

And even if it was true, New York is only 230 miles from Washington, which is less than an hour by air. It's not like she got a job in Australia.

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The distance doesn't matter..
May 18, 2007 5:35AM PDT

it's the "here's a cushy job so you won't tell them the truth" part! How did you not get that?

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I got the....
May 18, 2007 6:09AM PDT

..."we're going to lock you in this room, not let you call anyone, and generally scare the crap out of you until you tell us what we want to hear" part pretty well. That was well documented; the rest is an unproven allegation.

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Yeah, sure..
May 18, 2007 6:33AM PDT

unproven. Right. It NEVER happened.

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So the allegation and your own suspicion....
May 18, 2007 7:51AM PDT

....is enough to satisfy you?

Shall we apply that standard of proof to the current Administration too?

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Ha ha ha...
May 18, 2007 7:57AM PDT

Very weak, Josh. Do YOU believe the Clinton side yourself? Really? Honestly and truly?

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OK, don't answer then.
May 19, 2007 1:18AM PDT

Suit yourself.

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I did...
May 19, 2007 1:56AM PDT

it was deleted. The gist was, you are welcome to believe the Clinton spin and you can believe in the Tooth Fairy and Easter Bunny too.

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Thanks. And you....
May 19, 2007 5:05AM PDT

....are welcome to believe the Bush spin and you can believe in the Tooth Fairy and Easter Bunny too.

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Text of Draft of Article III
May 18, 2007 4:14AM PDT
Article alleged obstruction of justice, charging Clinton with encouraging Lewinsky to submit a false affidavit and give false testimony in court, plotting to hide his gifts to her, and attempting to find Lewinsky a job to prevent her truthful testimony.

LINK
4) Beginning on or about December 7, 1997, and continuing through and including January 14, 1998, William Jefferson Clinton intensified and succeeded in an effort to secure job assistance to a witness in a Federal civil rights action brought against him in order to corruptly prevent the truthful testimony of that witness in that proceeding at a time when the truthful testimony of that witness would have been harmful to him.
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thank you but again this illustrates how the wolfawitz case
May 18, 2007 4:21AM PDT

... is entirely different from what you fellas are trying to raise as germane to the situation.

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Ha ha..
May 18, 2007 4:24AM PDT

Dream on.

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If, and again IF,
May 18, 2007 8:05AM PDT

Mr. Wolfowitz is being run out of town because he (as a boss) had a sexual relationship with a subordinate and then is accused doing something inappropriate, (Getting employment as a result of that sexual relationship), it is the same. The circumstances around it are different, but it is the same issue. I am still amazed that the feminists never squealed one word about that about the President.