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Witness OR Snitch? .

Apr 25, 2007 12:25AM PDT
Creba witness fears for life

TORONTO (Sun Media) - A Crown witness who stood beside Jane Creba when she was murdered during the Boxing Day shootout now fears for his life because he's being forced to testify.

Richard Steele lost his bid to quash the subpoena that compels him to testify next week at the preliminary hearing for 15 men facing charges in connection with Creba's murder and the wounding of six others on Yonge St.

"You're just helping them kill me -- that's what you did," Steele screamed at Justice Ian Nordheimer.

"If I testify my family is in danger. I hope you're happy. This is justice at its best."


Stop Snitchin'

(CBS) In most communities, a person who sees a murder and helps the police put the killer behind bars is called a witness. But in many inner-city neighborhoods in this country that person is called a "snitch."

"Stop snitchin'" is a catchy hip-hop slogan that embodies and encourages this attitude. You can find it on everything from rap music videos to clothing. "Stop snitchin'" once meant "don?t tell on others if you?re caught committing a crime."

But as CNN's Anderson Cooper reports for 60 Minutes, it has come to mean something much more dangerous: "don?t cooperate with the police ? no matter who you are."

As a result, police say, witnesses are not coming forward. Murders are going unsolved.

Reluctance to talk to police has always been a problem in poor, predominantly African-American communities, but cops and criminologists say in recent years something has changed: fueled by hip-hop music, promoted by major corporations, what was once a backroom code of silence among criminals, is now being marketed like never before.


I say Witness.

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Witness.
Apr 25, 2007 12:53AM PDT

While reading your post, I started thinking about cases in which people said they did not act to help victims or report crimes to police just because they "didn't want to get involved."

In the 1960's the police were referred to as "pigs", and fomented suspicion and distrust as much as those in the article.

Just seems to me that when a group isn't satisfied with their lives they advocate not cooperating with law enforcement agencies.

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Infamous case some years ago
Apr 25, 2007 1:19AM PDT

back east. (Chicago? Philly?)
Someone "snitched" on a local gang, so the house was firebombed - the whole family died.

Now it's 'even in Canada.'
Sad

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Some don't wait to be a witness
Apr 25, 2007 1:44AM PDT
The Boys from Grand Manan

Carter Foster and his buddies--Lloyd Bainbridge, Matthew Lambert, Michael Small and Greg Guthrie--are hardworking men from the New Brunswick island of Grand Manan. They respect the laws of the sea and land. But in the summer of 2006 they had a terrifying run-in with the law that would change their lives.

The trouble started with Foster's neighbour, Ross--a man many in the community believed to be running a crack house. There had been numerous confrontations on the street where both men lived.


And then

Target of Grand Manan vigilantes misses court

The man at the centre of last summer's riot on Grand Manan Island did not show up in court in St. Andrews, N.B., on Thursday to hear the verdicts from his trial.

Ronald Ross was to have heard verdicts on two counts of uttering threats, one count of threatening property damage and one count of possession of a weapon for a purpose dangerous to the public peace.

His home was torched on July 22, 2006, when a group of island vigilantes gathered to confront him about his alleged drug dealing. Four men were convicted of various weapons and arson offences.
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If they don't want to help get rid of the bad elements
Apr 25, 2007 1:31AM PDT

in their neighborhoods, perhaps they are getting the neighborhood they deserve.

I hope that I would go after the bad elements in my neighborhood and get rid of them.

Diana

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RE: "Stop snitchin'"
Apr 25, 2007 12:19PM PDT

bout as bad as yelling fire in a crowded theater. Freedom of Speech doesn't mean freedom to place others in danger, regardless the manner.