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Windows Xp Home Edition

by boomer32 / March 19, 2004 1:22 AM PST

1. Is the firewall connection feature in xp home as good as the one in xp pro?
2.Also should you use this with dial up?
3.Do you recommend using the xp firewall or buying another if another what do you recommend ?


Thanks in advance
John

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Re:Windows Xp Home Edition
by glb613 / March 19, 2004 2:03 AM PST

The firewall that comes with XP is lame. It doesn't block outgoing attempts to the Internet which is just as important and incoming ones. I use Zone Alarm's free edition. It works great and the price is right.

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Re:Windows Xp Home Edition
by Yew / March 19, 2004 3:38 AM PST

The firewall in XP Home and Pro is exactly the same in both. It's incoming connections only, lacks most of the configuration options you'd get elsewhere, and really the only things it has going for it is that it's already there and free. It can also be useful for blocking things like the Blaster worm if you have to reformat and thus need to download all those patches again on a "virgin" system.

But honestly, on a dialup it doesn't make a huge difference. A firewall would clue you in to spyware on your system, but that's really about all it's going to do. Most people seem to be under the dellusion that it's this magical cure for every Internet related ill that can afflict a computer. All a firewall does really is look at incoming and outgoing packets looking for something suspicious. ZoneAlarm and most of the others are only stateless firewalls, so they can only look at one packet at a time. Outpost at least has the option for stateful inspection, so it can look at packets as they fit into an entire connection. But on a dialup connection, you're just not that attractive of a target for people. You don't have enough bandwidth to make it worthwhile turning your system into a dumpsite for illegal software, movies, music, etc, nor do you have the bandwidth necessary to really make a difference if they zombify your machine for a DDoS attack. Spyware is the major thing you have to worry about.

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Re:Re:Windows Xp Home Edition
by Merl Priester / March 19, 2004 3:15 PM PST

The basic firewall XP provides, even on dialup is
sufficient to block most parasites (worm etc) that spread across shared networks.
Contrary to what was said in a previous post, you are a target for these on dialup since the parasites only look for shared computers, on dialup you are shared.

It is true that it is only incoming protection, but 99.9% of what you want to block is incoming.

Many people have problems with zone alarm, many don't so you choose what to try.

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Re:Re:Windows Xp Home Edition
by allvalwants / March 21, 2004 11:48 AM PST

Hi. I came across your post while looking for something else. I was wondering if you, (or anyone), would mind clarifying something said in your post. Regarding, "ZoneAlarm and most of the others are only stateless firewalls, so they can only look at one packet at a time. Outpost at least has the option for stateful inspection, so it can look at packets as they fit into an entire connection," can you please explain in a brief way? I use Win XP Home with a DSL connection. I have Zone Alarm Pro v. 4.5.538.001, Pest Patrol v. 4.4.0.0, and Norton AV 2004 v. 10.0.1.13. I haven't enabled the XP firewall. In your opinion how well am I protected? I know you mentioned, "Outpost," which I will look into. I would certainly appreciate some thoughts on this. Thank you very much!

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Re:Re:Re:Windows Xp Home Edition
by electric / March 29, 2004 7:10 AM PST

You have enough protection as long you keep ALL updated at least once a week.
I update anti-virus every day

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Re:Re:Re:Re:Windows Xp Home Edition
by allvalwants / April 3, 2004 3:47 PM PST

Thank you for taking the time to anwer!

VAL

(I feel a bit safer!)

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