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Windows Defender Probs again

by zeebell / April 21, 2006 10:59 AM PDT

I was trying to find my posts on the above subject from when I was having problems a couple of weeks ago or whenever it was. I've been gone and am now back and when going to my profile it shows 0 posts -- in fact, 0 everything.

What happened?



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i saw you have 900+ posts in profile
by dawillie / April 21, 2006 11:22 AM PDT
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Golly -- I'm exasperated!
by zeebell / April 21, 2006 12:06 PM PDT

I still can't see any of my messages; cnet would not let me log in -- it took 6 tries this go around; it's also extremely slow (is that because it's Friday night).

Anyway, thanks David for the link. I'll take a look at it. I'm about ready to chuck Defender. It's a royal PITA when it doesn't work, which is most of the time (LOL)!

I'm getting the same stuff I did before and I see from someone else's post, it's another hassle.

Nice to see you.



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if I remember correctly
by dawillie / April 21, 2006 2:02 PM PDT

you changed your rule set in Kerio causing Defender to malfunction.

Check with tech support at Kerio, uninstall it and Bit Defender, re-install Bit Defender first, then Kerio.

Must admit my older Kerio reacted to it too and I indicated 'deny' and posted in the Defender Forum.

Their answer satisfied me and I wrote an 'allow' rule for Port 443 outbound.

My Kerio however is an older version that allows me to change things at will.

In your case I think that once you 'deny' something the rule stays fixed.

So a complete uninstall install of both and re-install may be the solution.

For the record, NO problems with Bitdefender.

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Good morning David -- I'm beginning to wonder
by zeebell / April 21, 2006 11:48 PM PDT

if WD is working ok afterall. I've been gone all week and when I came home and started updating PC, it showed last scan for WD on 4/20. I manually went to get update and that's when I got the error msg about wrong disc (like I did before). That's what made me think it wasn't working.

You remembered correctly about my incorrectly blocking it before; however, I was able to go in and unblock it. My blocking and unblocking is done differently than on your older Kerio -- actually, it's pretty easy, IF you know how (LOL)!

I have my WD set to scan daily at 10 p.m. Also, it's set to check for updates BEFORE scanning. Guess the reason the last scan date wasn't 4/21 is because hubby didn't have PC on at 10 p.m. that day. It did fine last night and this morning shows last scan was done at 10 p.m. on 4/21.

I really wonder if it got any updates before the scan, but guess I'll leave well enough alone and see what happens. It just won't let me get updates manually.

Before when it went haywire, it had been doing the scans and just not doing the updates because it finally did tell me it hadn't been updated for some time. Wonder when it will tell me that this time.

Thanks for checking back.


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Just a suggestion Julea but
by roddy32 / April 22, 2006 12:37 AM PDT

you could also check Window Updates and see if anything is available. Some people are getting their Defender updates that way.

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Julea, Roddy is correct
by dawillie / April 22, 2006 2:46 AM PDT

was surprised one a.m. when my WUD suddenly activated.

later I checked update history in WUD and found that the update I had seen was from Bitdefender.

so it looks like it is integrated with Windows Update [WUD].

Also FWIW i leave PC on all day while at work and have set this to run at 11:00am, about 2 hr. after AVG scan.

works for me.


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Wellllllllll -- I'm normally not one who gives up --
by zeebell / April 22, 2006 6:32 AM PDT

however, in this case, I'm about to.

I was able to do the Run thing by cutting and pasting the info to remove the last update. I uninstalled and went to MS and downloaded WU. Sameo, sameo!

It would not update; I went to WU and it would not update there either.

Someone tell me to uninstall this thing and forget about it (LOL)! The only thing that worked before was a new version which Carol alerted me to. So guess, I'll have to wait until another new version appears.

This is crazy! I sure don't want to spend my time uninstalling and reinstalling something that's breaking all the time. I know it's BETA, but it PITA in my books. It's nice when it works -- but when does it work??


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I was able to do the Run thing by cutting and pasting the in
by dawillie / April 22, 2006 1:30 PM PDT
'I was able to do the Run thing by cutting and pasting the info to remove the last update'.

why not just Run from source instead of all this convoluted stuff??

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It just won't run period -- I've removed and maybe
by zeebell / April 22, 2006 2:52 PM PDT

IF another version comes along, I'll try once again. I'm tired of messing with it. I didn't have problems pre WD and certainly have had since.


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Julea, I Removed Mine Also...
by Grif Thomas Forum moderator / April 24, 2006 4:26 AM PDT

I had WD on my office machine and it consistently wouldn't update.. For some reason, it would NEVER update from with the program GUI and required updating from the Windows Update site. Sooner or later, the program would start to fail there as well.. I then follow all things know to man, woman, and beast to clean it off the machine, then reinstall. It might work for a short period but sooner or later, the update wouldn't work . I even tried disabling the Windows Defender service and manually copying the "Definitions" files from one computer to the next.. That did the job but wasn't a long term solution. It's no longer worth the trouble so it's gone..

The strange thing....I've got it running on two machines as home and it works fine..Oh well, that's why they call it BETA.

Hope this helps.


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You have helped Grif -- reassured me more or less!
by zeebell / April 24, 2006 5:36 AM PDT

Sounds like similar problems. It was short-term BETA for me (LOL).

By the way -- I'm on my way to the computer help forum with a question -- would you meet me over there -- it's re: slow downloading on one of my OE accounts and not appropriate for here.

Thanks for your input.


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Ah OH! Goodness gracious! I had no clue they
by zeebell / April 22, 2006 5:51 AM PDT

were available through that. I just went there and have many many failed attempts both from the first time when having WD and now. I think it's just meant that I do not have this handy utility on ye old PC.

Thanks for letting me know about the WU, but it was unsuccessful too.


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by tomron / April 21, 2006 2:27 PM PDT

I was wondering what happend,I posted this link for you

Click HERE

Also check the forum feedback and you will see some forum issues.


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(NT) (NT) Thanks much for info; missed your post before.
by zeebell / April 21, 2006 11:40 PM PDT
In reply to: Julea
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Hey Tom -- it worked!
by zeebell / April 22, 2006 6:35 AM PDT
In reply to: Julea

At least the ability to copy and paste worked for me. It did not help WD to work properly again; however, I have printed off the instructions for my archives and was able to remove the update by copying and pasting the info in the RUN block.

Thanks for letting me know about this.


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(NT) (NT) Your welcome Julea
by tomron / April 22, 2006 7:12 AM PDT
In reply to: Hey Tom -- it worked!
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