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Windows 8 just isn't my thing, can I install Windows 7 over

by Lee Koo (ADMIN) CNET staff/forum admin / January 25, 2013 6:58 AM PST

Windows 8 just isn't my thing, can I install Windows 7 over 8?

I just bought a new PC that came with Windows 8 and it is just too
different for me and my wife. We'd like to go back one step and install
Windows 7 over it. Is this possible to do? And if it is, can you tell
me exactly what the procedures are and what version of Windows 7 (upgrade or full version)
is needed to accomplish this? Thank you for your help.

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Win 8
by gluttner / January 25, 2013 9:01 AM PST

Are there specific items you truly dislike about Win 8? I have been using it now for 2 months and am very pleased with it. With just a bit of work, it is the same as Win XP or Win 7. Use local accounts, not a Microsoft account and just go to the desktop instead of using the start screen menu. Creation of desktop shortcuts is quite easy. Seems to utilize memory better, better hard drive utilities, backups, etc. If you choose to switch to Win 7, using the full version, be sure you download and save to CD all the motherboard and CPU drivers and such (network driver NIC) before reformatting. Good luck with whatever decision you go with.

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Windows 8 back to Windows 7
by pauly1651 / February 1, 2013 8:41 AM PST
In reply to: Win 8

Go back to Windows 7.

Here's what I just do not understand, when I see some people write about Windows 8:

They all say it's just as good as Windows 7.
You can set it up to look like Windows 7
What then I have to ask the question...what is the point of having Windows 8 at all???!!???
Conclusion I came to is...
I am sticking to Windows 7 64 Bit.
It runs great, fast and is very user friendly.
And yes, I did try Windows 8 for a week..the whole thing is dumb.
I went back to Windows 7, and had Zero problems!
You should have no problems either.

Microsoft has made a change that may be OK for Tablets and touchscreen devices. But for desktop PC's, Windows 7 & and even XP are still the way to go.

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I'm still using XP Pro. Don't care much for Windows anyway.
by flightwave / February 1, 2013 9:35 AM PST

I have Windows 7 on my laptop and I hate it. Have never tried 8 and don't intend to. I went with all the various versions of Windows and didn't complain. In my opinion, XP was the best yet from Microsoft. .Once Microsoft stop providing support for XP, I will go with a Mac desktop.Our office is strictly Mac and I really love Mac but can't afford right now. However, by the time Microsoft quits on XP I will have enough for the Mac and hopefully can even go with the 27" monitor. Look forward to it.

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Thought I was the only one
by hisgrip / February 1, 2013 10:11 AM PST

I agree with you I have windows8 and I HAAATE it my next computer will be a MAC as well.
Most of the software I have will not work with windows8 it or works subpar.

I have windows 7 on my laptop , they messed up a good thing I don't change but a change for the better is what I need 8 reminds me of vista another bad idea

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Please name names
by theccur / February 1, 2013 11:06 PM PST

Given that Windows 8 was SPECIFICALLY designed to work with MOST current Windows software, I'd be interested in the names of those that DON'T work with Windows 8 so that we can all avoid them.

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by ColtForty5 / April 30, 2013 3:29 AM PDT
In reply to: Please name names

I just bought a samsung Ativ 700t with windows 8 and it works awesome with just about everything EXCEPT Adobe Flash and Adobe photoshop. The wacom pen just won't work in those apps, which sucks because those are the apps I need the machine to use. Extremely frustrating. I also noticed that it doesn't work in Manga Studio as well.

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Too bad you didn't create your own discussion.
by R. Proffitt Forum moderator / April 30, 2013 3:43 AM PDT
In reply to: Names

The details are missing too, but if you want folk to help, don't bury a plea for help here.

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You need to contact Magna Stuudio because they
by orlbuckeye / May 1, 2013 9:44 PM PDT
In reply to: Names
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Mac maintinence is costlier than windows ... have u consider
by vivektalkin26365 / February 1, 2013 9:27 PM PST

Dude Mac OS is way costlier than Windows OS and maintaining it .... cannot be pre-projected.

It's ok when u don't wanna learn new things than xp is good but believe me (I have been using windows since windows 95), windows 7 is what most people on earth describes worth of trying( including 8).

Give it a try nd enjoy it ... it's way faster than xp and resolves problem instantly, if encountered !!

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Broken Windows
by rlottaviano / February 2, 2013 2:26 AM PST

I am posting this on an iMac with a 27" screen. I love it. You will too. I wish you luck getting there (here).

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Screen size
by Ferretkeeper / February 3, 2013 1:56 PM PST
In reply to: Broken Windows

I use a 37" HDTV as a monitor for my W7 rig :- Lian-Li PC-A70 Case, Corsair HX850W PSU, Asus Crosshair IV Formula board, AMD Phenom II 1090T 6 core processor clocked to 3857 MHz , 16GB Corsair Vengeance RAM @ 1866 MHz , Mushkin Chronos Deluxe 240GB SSD running W7 Ultimate 64 bit ( as C: drive), 2x 2TB Raid 1 arrays ( i.e. 4x 2TB Hitachi HDDs ) plus 4.5TB other HDDs, Logitech LX 710 Wireless Keyboard and Mouse, Epson BX300F printer, and numerous hubs and peripherals. I also have an HDMI cable from the office to a 55" HDTV in the lounge, and just have to carry the keyboard and mouse through to have full control there.
I love it, you would too. I wish you luck achieving anything similar with a Mac.

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by Extcee89 / April 23, 2013 10:24 PM PDT
In reply to: Screen size

Very easily.

Get an Apple TV (£99), and use AirPlay to send your screen to your TV...

Less cables, less ********.

Failing that, you can do this with a Mac Mini (HDMI out) + a couple of Thunderbolt LaCIE RAID drives.. and the performance on that will beat the **** out of any NAS boxes.

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why windows 8
by kweger75 / February 1, 2013 10:49 AM PST

Windows 8 was released in desktops and notebooks because Microsoft was wanting to provide better ease of access to resources stored on a pc with thier tablets and/or phones that run the Windows systems

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The quandry of Windoze 8 MUTRO
by photobug56 / February 1, 2013 12:59 PM PST

There was a time when I figured that Win 8 would have some under the covers improvement and some tweaking to the GUI. I was right about the first; horribly wrong about the 2nd. We got an awful GUI, designed to be best used by young children, chimps and pets who like to touch pretty icons on screen. The sad part is that underneath it is improved. My big worry about going to 8; sure, I can tweak it to be usable again, but an exec wrote me last summer to say that MS will eventually block the ability to get around MUTRO. And then I'm stuck with an unusable OS.

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windows 8
by dilipkps / February 1, 2013 10:03 PM PST

You are right about under the covers improvement. I have been using a nebook with a 9 inch screen and Intel Atom processor, since 2009. I like this machine for its small footprint and large storage (160 GB)! On a whim, I upgraded the OS to Win 8Pro, as I had little to lose. Since the resolution of the screen is marginally less than what is required for Win 8, the tiles on the screen do not work. I use it in the desktop mode with most of the programs I had earlier, including MS Office. The positives first: the system boots up fast and the machine runs cooler. Networking is better, with this machine becoming visible to other devices at home. Finally, the OS is more stable than the Win 7 I used on a similar machine at home. The negatives: I cannot access the App Store, due to the poor screen resolution. I believe there are ways of cheating the system into believing that the resolution is adequate. Would be trying those soon. Bottomline is, I will keep Win 8!

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by Piercan / February 2, 2013 3:03 AM PST

What's MUTRO?

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My guess.
by Kees_B Forum moderator / February 2, 2013 3:11 AM PST
In reply to: MUTRO

It's a typo for "Metro", and it should be something like 'the Windows 8 interface formerly known as Metro".


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by Piercan / February 2, 2013 3:57 AM PST
In reply to: My guess.

Yes, I eventually figured it out and was going to delete that silly question of mine. Thanks for taking the trouble to answer.

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It's OK u said so
by vivektalkin26365 / February 1, 2013 9:23 PM PST

I also was frustrated with windows 8 at first but believe me in some aspects it is superior to windows 7.
U have to give it more than a week. In a week I was also criticising it nd to me it took around a month to get familiar with it and enjoy all of it's features.

Though as u said Windows 7 is still better in what it does than 8, I AGREE. The thing is this, if u can afford to lose some quality in work over specific tasks and get new features for it then u should try windows 8.

Ex:- Windows 8 is slow while copying data on HDD(that's what most people uses today), but it has better booting time and also comes preinstalled with some specific task programs like PDF opener, which if installed separately will affect system performance.

It's up to u where u want to go. In my opinion stick with 7 if u r a power user like me :-0 if not then switch to 8 like most common dwellers Happy

Enjoy ur windows .

Nd yes one more thing ... here some one said that XP is the best windows ever then I would say
Windows 98 is the best windows considering the quality of work done by it, in such small requirements and is still the most dependable windows OS if u are not using .net framework based programs. consider it !!

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win 8?
by me7654 / February 2, 2013 6:00 PM PST
In reply to: It's OK u said so

Icused win 3.1, 95, 98,me what a joke, xp, vista, 7, 8. xp was, and still is the most stable, easy to use from day 1, u loved 98, remember every time you buy new hardware, and it asked you for the 98 instillation cd ? or try networking? xp is simple, no need to set up usernames with passwords just to share files. less headaches. xp works.

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Windows 7 v Windows 8
by Themisive / February 3, 2013 7:22 AM PST

I see that several weeks ago you decided to bring out Windows 8.Unfortunately I can already see several drawbacks with this system. It is primarily a "Touch-Screen facility", in other words, if you already have existing monitors you have several options, one being to upgrade your monitors as well, the other is to upgrade the O/S itself and ignore the on-screen prompts.

Touch-Screen technology was developed for the 3G mobile phones; personally I do quyickly scoll through the various applications on that 'phone. However I see problems arising here,;
If you do get new screens then you are going to have a problem with dirt on those screens;
If you don't get new screens you'll have the.problem of unwanted shorcuts on the screens. I have Windows 764 bit, and do not intend to change it.

If I did change it, I would need to buy new monitors, maybe I'll do that in the future.

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Why bother?
by lawsob / February 1, 2013 10:59 PM PST
In reply to: Win 8

I agree that Windows 8 is at first a bit of a shock. One tends to freeze up and mutter to oneself -- "where is the Start Button!?"

But if one take just a bit of time, maybe 10 minutes of concentrated attention one will find that it's all there -- just hit the "Windows Key".

I my experience Windows 8 is much faster and generally better than Windows 7. Don't waste your time falling back to Windows 7. You'll save lots of time by just learning the basics of navigating in 8.

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Don't bother, get Pokki
by tom10i / January 25, 2013 9:04 AM PST

I wouldn't bother to reinstall Windows 7 in any form, as it functions almost exactly the same as Windows 8, with the addtion of Pokki (downloadable for free at CNET. It even totally avoids having to look at the Windows 8 screen with all the boxes as it automatically brings up the computer on the desktop. It's integration with Yahoo and Gmail is superb, just download the mini-app from the Pokki store and input your passwords and each is a click away. Outlook is a bit clunky (you have to hit the button a couple of times). Pokki is really an outstanding little application and we've installed it on all our Windows 8 computers without a hitch. Shame I didn't see a way to enterprize it on our network, it's PC based so each machine required a separate install. But, still it's a great freeware and saved me from having to do just what you suggested on multiple computers. Hope this helps.

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Tried Windows 8 for 3+ months.....back to Win 7
by MJR / January 25, 2013 9:11 AM PST

When Windows 8 first released, I downloaded a copy onto my 3 year old laptop, wiping out my previous Win 7 install.

I gave it a good 3 month plus trial, only to come to the conclusion that the meager benefits it offered were best utilized on a tablet/touchscreen PC.......and even then I questioned their value. In short, Win 8 is not a necessity.

After that trial period, I dumped Win 8 and went back to Win 7.

Win 7 will be supported for many a year to come, and if Microsoft gets its act together and changes Win 8 to better suit my needs, then I might switch back to Win 8.

Otherwise, Win 7 rules my home. If it isn't broke, don't fix it.

Buy a retail copy of Win 7, install it, and live life happily ever after.

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by theccur / January 26, 2013 12:13 AM PST

PLEASE explain what it is ABOUT Windows 7 that make it superior to Windows 8, since ANYONE can make the USER experience the same.

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For example. No XP MODE in 8.
by R. Proffitt Forum moderator / January 26, 2013 3:04 AM PST
In reply to: How?
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by dbgman / February 1, 2013 7:23 AM PST

That is your answer. You can run multiple operating systems inside of windows 8. That is what xp mode is.

That is what I do for some older devices I have to connect to.

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Window 7 is still Windows; 8 is from another planet
by mntncougar / February 1, 2013 7:46 AM PST
In reply to: How?

The simple answer to "How" is simply that Win 7 (or Vista or XP, etc.) is the windows that everybody has learned, grown up with and knows how to use. And it works, very well! Could there be something better? Sure, but Win 8 definitely isn't it.
All the platitudes fit very well here, #1 being "If it ain't broke don't fix it". Why on earth would anyone want to learn a new system from scratch after 15 years or so of using something that always worked fairly well and has gotten much, much better? There is nothing in Win 8 that jumps out at people as being any great improvement, and the negatives are apparent as soon as you turn on the computer. As to faster boot times, Win 7 is plenty fast enough, and if you need speed an SSD C drive will give a lot more improvement than Win 8.
And I'm frankly, quite sick of all the gibberish from people saying install this, that or the other program and it will make Win 8 "almost" as good as Win 7. That's both absurd and insane. Just as it's nuts to tout all the advantages of Win 8 when there is not one feature that could not have been built into an upgrade of Win 7. I've yet to see the first person say they just can't live without a touch screen on their desktop or office computer. If MS needs a different OS for the touch screen feature, then fine, use Win 8. Just dont foist it off on the rest of us.
If enough people abort the Win 8 monstrosity, maybe, just maybe, MS will come to it's senses and make Win 9 a version that people can recognize again. If not I'll be an Apple guy, much as the words catch in my throat.

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DOS to Windows 8
by gbswales1 / February 1, 2013 8:36 AM PST

I remember people bemoaning the loss of DOS to Windows - I actually jumped in at windows 95 and was a die hard DOS fan until the world started to change and I suddenly realised one day that I hadn't used any dos windows for months, and didn't miss it - then to Windows 98 then to Windows 7 - now I am on Windows 8 which is hardly any different to Windows 7 except that it has an interface of the future bolted on as a front end. I have always regretted every change for the first month or so and then afterwards wondered how I could ever go back- There is only one sensible direction to go with technology and that isn't backwards. You have bought a system that has been built for Wiindows 8 the likelihood is that by reversing you will see some loss of performance - Window 8 even used almost wholly in "7 mode" is a lot faster than its predecessor. Once I did a couple of hours research to find the sort of programmes being discussed here my desktop looked as it did before BUT performed better. The add in tool also gave me a greater ability to customise the win 7 style desktop. The only time I see Metro is when I make the choice to go into it - though I have to say still being able to access the charms bar when I want to is great.
The two things holding me back from immersing in the metro experience is the lack of very good free apps for it and the lack of touch screens (I use dual monitors and can actually have metro on one screen and the old desktop on the other if I want to. I know that I shall be tempted into touch screens eventually so why not run with the system that is ready for it when I do - the early upgrade was a steal and I couldn't see the point of waiting until I "needed" it if it could do all I wanted. I was still unsure at first and even kept a full iso image of my old win 7 installation thinking I would want to go back - did I - nah underneath the quirky new top interface is a solid system.
I think I can almost guarantee that downgrading will be much harder work than a little bit of Win 8 touching up. That is assuming that you have the skills to make sure you have all the right win 7 drivers and so on, can afford a full copy of Windows 7 and don't mind chucking away what is a perfectly good operating system that you probably wont be able to re-install (as it is OEM)
True I have only ever used pro versions of windows software as the home editions usually have important stuff left out and are less flexible to mess with so I cant say what windows 8 starter edition is like.

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Support Windows 8 for new computers
by davmax1589 / February 1, 2013 11:25 AM PST
In reply to: DOS to Windows 8

I have found Windows 7 great, however I decided to take the low cost option to upgrade to Windows 8, that opportunity has now gone.
Upgrading was not simple in that I needed to find out how to double boot to retain XP and some very old but expensive programmes. The actual upgrade from Windows 7 was good this created a Metro icon for the Desktop that would take me back to my familiar Windows 7 Desktop. I found the other changes of use easy to adjust to.
Before I upgraded I took an image of my Windows 7 plus XP system. I am glad I did because I am now back to Windows 7, not because I could not adjust but because my 2010 version accounting software would not run under Windows 8. A new version of the accounting app is just not cost justified.
So I am back to Windows 7 with a low cost Windows 8 iso burnt to DVD for a future upgrade when my issue is resolved.
I can see that a brand new system of Windows 8 would be the best way to go, as long as some incompatible software did not need to be installed.

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