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Windows 10 Technical Preview users, what do you think of it?

May 29, 2015 9:27AM PDT
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Windows 10 Technical Preview users, what do you think of it?


Hi. I would like to know what CNET users think about the Windows 10 Technical Preview. Do any of you out there have it installed? I do and I am having a world of problems with it. Every new build (I currently have 10121 installed) brings with it new issues. The Microsoft Forums are not really helpful when it comes to solving these problems and I was wondering if others are sharing my experience and my frustration. I decided to try the Windows 10 preview because I had used the Windows 8.1 preview and had a good experience with it. This time around it has been a real nightmare. Thank you.

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Windows10
Jun 5, 2015 7:02PM PDT

I like a lot of things about it, but is really buggy. I think in going back to the aero-type graphics, it has made it less "snappy" and more prone to just fade out and "hang". I hate how big brother Microsoft continues to dig deeper and deeper to get its hooks in to your soul. I am fighting off
Bing and One Drive at every turn. I do not think I should have to sign in to Microsoft every time I turn around when I am at home on my own computer minding my own business. You can't even play Free Cell without signing in... is nothing sacred? I love the photos app and they just keep improving it. Now you can easily zoom in and out and do some basic edits quite easily, as well as a some creative edits. I am not sure I'm ready to trade in Windows 8 yet, but I'm getting there.

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Windows 10 not ready for prime time.
Nov 10, 2015 8:46AM PST

As an admnistrative assistant, I have always wanted to be familiar with the latest and best software. Microsoft Word with its drop down menus was made for people who could not type. I would love to go back to Word Perfect.
Thank you for the opportunity to comment.

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Running Win 10 on a virtual machine on a fast desktop
Jun 5, 2015 7:21PM PDT

Windows 10 updates have been excruciatingly slow to install.
As for Win 10 goes, it's far better than Win 8.1 stock, almost as good a Win 8.1 with ClassicShell installed, and almost as easy to use as Win 7. Haven't tried installing as shell program on it because I want to evaluate bare Win 10.

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Uninstalled, went back to 8.1.
Jun 5, 2015 8:15PM PDT

Tried it on my DellM6600 laptop, went from W8.1 to W10 Tech. Installed fine, rebooted, came up and then screen went dark. Fought my way in with safe mode, uninstalled, rolled back to restore point I created before installation, reinstalled, same thing, same process. Went back to W8.1. Since then, after sign on completes, my screen refreshes itself before allowing me to continue, so don't know what W10 left behind but is a nuisance.

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OK so far
Jun 5, 2015 8:19PM PDT

Have been running this on an HPdv5 , I5. since it was first available.
I prefer the interface to 8.1, especially in a non touch laptop. No problems with loading the updates, but look forward to all the tiles working: store, and Spartan screens open, but nobody's home. It seems to be a natural step in a cross platform ecosystem. I did load my steam account yesterday, and that ( games) worked well. All the usual chrome, foxit reader, libre , AVG stuff runs just fine, so I take that as a plus.

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Works well for most things but updates fail
Jun 5, 2015 8:42PM PDT

I've been using Windows 10 for several months but am presently stuck on build 10049. None of the updates have worked. I have not tried reinstalling with the latest iso but, because of the update problems, I'm going to be very leery of trying to upgrade my Windows 8.1 installation when July rolls around.

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reimage helps
Jun 7, 2015 6:02PM PDT

I got stuck on one of the early versions because of update failing, it might've been the same one. You didn't describe the update problems, so I can't say for sure. In my case update hung applying something unrelated to new builds and could never get past that point. I had to reinstall from an ISO and that fixed my problem, I've been applying fast ring updates ever since I reinstalled.

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Looking good
Jun 5, 2015 9:51PM PDT

I've participated in Windows betas going back to Windows 95, so I'm familiar with the usual rhythms and frustrations of using beta-ware. I also have daily use of Windows 8.1, which I think influences opinions of Windows 10 (i.e., if you are solely using Windows 7 or XP, there's a lot more new stuff to learn / adapt to.)

My experience with the various Win 10 builds has overall been very good... I've had only a few problems (failing to default video resolution, some applications that take a little tweaking to get them to run well.)

Overall, I think the apt analogy to make is between Windows 7 and Windows 10. A lot of people (me included) had problems with Windows Vista, some of which were UI based and some of which were basic functionality (opening remote network drives and copying / moving files was a nightmare...) These were largely smoothed out in Windows 7, and I think a lot of people referred to Windows 7 as what Vista should have been. One thing that will make a major difference is that at least some elements of the GUI change as the operating system determines what type of computer you're using (e.g., touch vs. non-touch, tablet vs. notebook.) My prediction is that a lot of similar comments will accompany Windows 10 release. With a traditional notebook booting to the desktop and with the re-designed Start menu, it feels pretty good on my non-touchscreen desktop.

Count me as cautiously optimistic about this release

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mixed feelings
Jun 5, 2015 10:47PM PDT

I've been a tester since day one.Its been running pretty good up until the last builds. I lost all sound on my computer. Keep trying to install the drivers that windows update has for me but it crashes & goes into bootloop hell.Getting ready to give up & go back to 8.1.I actually like Windows 8.1 interface better. Just my opinion, take from it what you will.

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new builds bring new problems
Jun 6, 2015 12:07PM PDT

I also did fairly well with 10 until the last couple of builds (I currently have 10121). I can no longer access the Feedback feature, updates don't work, Spartan cannot access the internet, Store (beta) cannot access the internet, etc. In other words nothing really functions. Finding solutions to these problems is the worst part of this situation as Microsoft is less than helpful to say the least.

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solid with a few minor quirks
Jun 5, 2015 11:19PM PDT

I got a new 15 inch touch 4k ultrabook in April, and have been using the Technical Preview in production since. I haven't had any unscheduled downtime other than when I let it do updates. I would suggest that it's really close and just needs a bit of polish here and there. There are already some really great features, like a fresh background for your lock screen, which is nice to come back to and see some amazing new photo. The notification center is great at keeping junk out of your way, and overall the driver support is really great. With this being the last version of Windows, I'd highly recommend everyone get in the first year while upgrades are free.

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Windows 10 is dazzling
Jun 5, 2015 11:51PM PDT

At one time the OS was half backed and you could have issues connecting to your Wi-Fi, changing the brightness of your screen, and the famous start menu didn't work, with Cortana MIA...
Sure it was a pain but I willingly signed up to see this new OS. I don't recall any other company beyond as open worth their plans like MSFT.
But slowly these issues have been solved and the latest build seems to be more stable. Search works but the shell crashes sometimes. This is not for the easily frustrated types.
In the end this operating system will amaze.

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It still needs work
Jun 6, 2015 12:06AM PDT

On build 10130 and there have been many improvements and bug fixes there are still some issues. On a 4K monitor the scaling on many windows still isn't correct. I still want to see a power/shot off button in a more convenient area of the Windows screen. Sometimes if you click options in the notification window the graphics driver will crash. However stability has improved overall.

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Win 10 UI
Jun 6, 2015 12:45AM PDT

Found the UI excellent - not quite back to pre Win 8, but I do like it. Run it on 2 of my machines and on the whole I have a favourable experience. I do however find 10074 more than a little buggy (hopefully this will be fixed for the final release), but the bloat ware is more than a little annoying - don't want it and do my best to remove as much of it as possible. Hopefully they will make it easier to automatically logon when booting up or when waking the PC up - I would value this on a tablet or a phone but not a PC

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I's OK
Jun 6, 2015 12:53AM PDT

Hi,
Been running it on an Old Dell 6400. It has behaved fine and has taken all the upgrades.
Seems to run most app's OK. THe only thing I have found which won't install is free Zonealarm.
On speaking to the company they say they won't be releasing a version for '10' until it is released!!

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Nothing good to expect from 7, by far...
Jun 6, 2015 12:55AM PDT

Hi,

For someone upgrading from Windows 7, here are some of the possible losses (considering we are only seeing a preview):

- no Gadgets and Sidebar (Microsoft chose to end the system rather than beefing up security)
- no more Aero and round corners (call me stupid but I like it)
- no Media Center
- no native DVD reader
- loss of many scripting possibilities (DHTML, SMIL, Active Scripting) and MS Agents
- no native floppy reader support
- no "Send To Desktop" from the Menu
- some drivers will not respond if the firewall is deactivated
- some actions will be only available when connected to a Microsoft account
- some devices won't work due to lack of drivers (I reserved my upgrade on one of my computers, it went OK but the "booking form" nevertheless indicated that it might not work due to lack of a video driver!)
- some programs might not work or poorly work, including those made with Delphi+BDE, FoxPro, Paradox, dBase, Clipper and the oldies Office 97, 2000, 2003...)
- network lag

When upgrading from 8 / 8.x it's not as bad as some of the above mentionned losses are already lost Happy

But anyway they'll force us to go there, so I guess we'll have to live with it - at least for new computers!

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My Floppy Works
Jun 6, 2015 11:14AM PDT

I'm running Build 10130 -- just inserted a old floppy and it worked fine. I've not loaded any special device driver, this is a 9-year old Dell Optiplex dual-booting with Win 7 -- and I'm running an unmodified 10130. I confess I've not tested many of the functions because of the press of time associated with other projects.

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Missing stuff
Jun 9, 2015 7:17AM PDT

What no "Send To Desktop"! Why on earth would they exclude such a useful shortcut? It's got to be tiny in terms of code, and requires no maintenance. So it's, Create New Shortcut, then having to navigate to wherever to find the file? Good call - Not.

- some actions will be only available when connected to a Microsoft account
That sounds ominous.

- network lag
Any more inf on that?

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Build 10130
Jun 6, 2015 2:54AM PDT

Since this build updated a week ago i cannot close down pc normally have spoken and given remote access to a windows 10 tech guy and after 3 hour he had exhausted all avenues but reassured me the glitches would eventually be ironed out, it's not a massive problem and in the UK cant use CORTANA yet ,but all in all i am quite pleased

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Windows Insider preview
Jun 6, 2015 3:27AM PDT

Hello All the technical preview name was dropped for awhile already Microsoft has called it now Windows Insider preview. Im on build 10130 now and there are a lot of updates being installed daily on my workstation that I use for testing. I have been an Insider since October of last year and the progression from early beta to now shows they are putting the final touches on it now, no more feature updates but just lots of tweaking the code and icons look great. I stopped using IE for quite some time and have used the new EDGE Browser since March. It works well enough and is really fast and responsive. According to Microsoft we should see some new build releases till the final RTM. Windows 10 is less confusing for most people using it than Windows 8 was and security features that have been installed make for a safer web browsing experience. My issues included in beta when I decided to pitch upgrading and did a clean install, it worked well doing the clean install of build 10074. After doing the install my issues went away. I have installed lots of programs including Office 2016 preview, SQL 2016 CTP2, some game apps as well as steam client and STO. Running SQL seams to work very well and really tests the systems resiliency, Windows 10 has passed all my tests so far and the final tweaking shows they will be ready by July 29.

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Too dumbed down
Jun 6, 2015 4:12AM PDT

I've been a Beta tester since 1994.
Windows 10 is a little too difficult to tune. Settings are sometimes difficult, or impossible to find. Compatibility with all apps and drivers is not there yet. This may change as it gets closer to release.

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I'm not holding my breath
Jun 6, 2015 1:09PM PDT

The issues you point out were common to W8. Finding settings was like playing whack-a-mole. Simple adjustments were made very difficult. compared to every other OS I ever worked with.

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Windows 10 Technical Preview users, what do you think of it?
Jun 6, 2015 4:17AM PDT

Couldn't agree more. Each update causes so much aggravation in what used to work and now doesn't, I wonder why I bother. Internet access is lost, updates don't update, settings doesn't open, I can't even download the latest update as an .ISO so I can re-install. I'd tear my hair out if I had any.

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Windows 10 experiences
Jun 6, 2015 4:36AM PDT

I've been testing Windows 10 since October 2014. I've been in the fast ring since March, 2015. My initial experience was that it worked better and was more stable than when Windows 8.1 was on this machine. I have seen some minor bugs, but nothing that would stop me from switching right now. I do, however have my reservations about Spartan. There are some key features missing that I use often, like a home page button, and I have also had issues with the settings actually working. For instance, it seems to go to any of the options sequentially when it starts. One time it will start at the page I closed it on when last in use and another time it will go to my selected home page and yet the next time it will open with Bing as the home page. I have it set in the settings to open my desired home page, Google. This to me is a minor flaw in an otherwise wonderful operating system since I use other browsers as my main browser. With Windows 8.1, I had many problems with trying to use 2 DVD/BluRay optical drives in my machine. With Windows 10, those troubles are gone, completely. The only other issue, and this was fixed easily and works much better than any other system I had it on, is my company supplied VPN connection. My company wouldn't support it, of course, but I searched the Internet and found the fix quite easily.

It takes a while to load or update, but your patience is rewarded with a solid operating system. I am running it on an AMD quad core with 8GB of ram and 2, 1 TB internal hard drives with a third used as a backup and hooked up externally by USB. I have 2 optical drives, 1 BluRay R/RW manufactured by Pioneer and the other a DVD R/RW by Samsung. I log in using my old Microsoft fingerprint reader and a modified driver I found on the internet. I do not have a touch screen monitor. I use a Insignia 32" 1080P TV and an HDMI connection. I am currently on build 10130. I guess you could say that my system is your basic home PC.

I suggest that if you want to install and use Windows 10 preview, you should make sure you have a link in your Internet browser of choice to the Microsoft Windows 10 forum. I have found a lot of useful information there and fixed several of the minor irritations I have encountered. Oh, and yeah, the settings app needs some getting used to. Fortunately, control panel is still around at this point to help the adjustment.

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Windows 10 Comments.
Jun 6, 2015 5:02AM PDT

I'm in the fast ring running Build 10130 and like it quite well. I've not experienced any stability issues whatsoever! All of my apps and programs function fine. The current build seems polished, and Cortana is finally working. I believe 10130 is probably quite close to what the official release will be.

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Your assessment?
Jun 6, 2015 1:11PM PDT

Since W10 works absolutely perfectly for you, what is your assement of the people who have had issues? We need those who have never had a problem to tell us how to achieve your good results.

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Perfectly?
Jun 6, 2015 1:41PM PDT

It isn't perfect, yet. I don't think a perfect software can be written. With that in mind, I think the majority of the problems I've seen can be attributed to a few things.

First, not every piece of hardware or software reacts the same way to an operating system and sometimes installation can get a little quirky. This happens to all operating systems including Apple OS.

I think some people get irritated with the time it takes to load Windows 10. There's no getting around it, it does. I've been fortunate enough to have the time to just walk away and let it take it's time installing. Perhaps that's why I haven't experienced most of the problems others have. I've usually walked away when I realize it updating/loading a new version, let it set overnight, and when I return in the morning to the updated PC, I reboot it before trying anything.

I have around 30 - 50 apps/programs installed on my machine and I haven't experienced nearly as many bugs or problems as I did in Windows 8.1 (which I beta tested along with Windows 7 before that). All of those apps/programs have worked fine.

There are always going to be those that dislike Microsoft for one reason or another and the littlest quirk will become irritating nuisances to those people. I don't think either Apple or Microsoft needs to be defended for their operating system. The only competition there is for your money. It sometimes amazes me how passionate people can get when trying to defend one or the other. Sometimes it's like comparing apples to oranges (no pun intended). I think that's the reason for some hack attempts (Black hat vs White hat), at least when they don't involve money.

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I wish my apps functioned so well!
Jun 9, 2015 5:27PM PDT

If 10130 is close to what the official release will be Microsoft is in big trouble. I finally did a totally clean install of 10130 and while a lot more stuff actually works there is still plenty that does not. I cannot access ANY music files at all. Windows Media Player does not work, Winamp does not work, that awful Music app does not work. Cortana is a joke. And Spartan is just bad.

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Windows 10 Beta testing
Jun 6, 2015 6:18AM PDT

I've been lucky enough to be on the beta side of things this year, and have been running the
Win10 beta. After using Win8, 10 is a whole new avenue and a lot easier road to travel. To date,
I haven't any complaints what so ever; however the real story will be if its bloated in its official
release version, which I have signed up for.
I was also involved in the Win7 beta program, and when the official release hit, it was bloated
and not what I expected at all. So, I am hoping for a release version that is close to what the
beta is.

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Windows 10 still Crap
Jun 6, 2015 6:21AM PDT

I am running Win 10 virtually in VMWare and while it runs OK, the start menu is still absolute rubbish. Surely Micro$oft could listen to customers and make a decent Start Menu. I want the Win 7 menu arrangement when I could create my own folders so I could group similar programs together and make it easy to find them. Not the great painful scrolling alphabetical list garbage they have come up with. If I get Win10 I'll be installing Classic Shell or Start8 and get back to real ease of use and power.
Also the drab colour schemes are not a patch on Aero. I'll probably stick to Win 7 as long as I can (Like I did with XP).
Sorry MicroSloth, go back and try again. You will need to give this away for people to install it because I doubt anyone using Win7 would pay to get the downgrade to Win10.