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General discussion

WIN98se memory manager

Feb 14, 2004 4:37PM PST

I've been looking for a (free) memory manager for my win98se PC. Those I've tried have either bogged down my system (like MemTrax did)or out and out hung it on boot up (like Cacheman550 done). A program holding onto memory after you close it can also account for shutdown problems with win98 as well as freezing up due to low resources. Any ideas?? Thanks...

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The best idea: stop looking and do without one.
Feb 14, 2004 8:50PM PST

If RAM is short, a memory stick is cheaper and much more effective.

Kees

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'Don't'.
Feb 14, 2004 8:57PM PST

The following is an excerpt from a message posted by Greg Wolking (previously of the PCMag forum) which I think you'll find interesting and factual IMHO:

Windows keeps as much stuff loaded in memory as possible, at least in part so that it doesn't have to keep wasting time reloading code modules, data, etc. from disk. Therefore, it is quite common to see very little "unused physical memory" until you have serious amounts of physical RAM installed in the machine. By "serious", I mean 128MB or more on a Win 98 system.

Windows will re-adjust its internal allocations when a running application needs memory. This includes discarding recently-loaded code modules (DLLs) that are no longer actually in use, shrinking the disk cache, discarding cached icons for the Start Menu/Desktop, etc.

There are also settings that you can "twiddle" to force Windows to discard unused code modules immediately, instead of keeping them loaded until the memory they occupy is required for something else. This is part of what some "memory recovery" utilities do -- they force Windows to discard unused modules, even though Windows will do that automatically when necessary. Thus, the benefit of using such a mechanism is rather illusory since it is forcing something to happen NOW which Windows would eventually do on its own anyway. Besides, memory manager programs running in the background are going to demand their share of resources too.

More accurately, all running programs use resources, some more than others. It's just that the ones that run "in the background" are the ones that so often "bite" us. Wink

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Add a WIN98se memory manager and you have less memory.
Feb 14, 2004 10:29PM PST
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Re:WIN98se memory manager
Feb 15, 2004 5:20AM PST

Windows memory manager works just fine. Have you customized your swap file settings, to optimize how your system utilizes resources, as well as shutdown programs you do not use all the time, and not have windows start them up from boot? It is best to have 5 or less systray icons regardless of how much memory you have, I currently multiboot 3 operating systems, 98SE, W2K Pro with SP3, and XP PRO with SP1, with no issues and I use a 3rd party boot loader (Partition/ Boot Magic Cool. I have no issues with any of the three systems, and Boot magic has as my hidden partition a non system partition (I have 2, 60 GB hard drives with 4 partitions, 98 on C, W2K Pro on D, XP PRO on E, with F hidden and a non system partition). The windows memory managers work well if you set your system up well for them.