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Win 7 SP1 not updating

Medion MS-7713 AMD Radeon HD 6450 4.00 GB RAM
64-bit operating system processor cores 4
Windows 7 Updated to SP1 . Last successful update was windows update of update system but now simply not finding any further updates over several fruitless days.
Tried WindowsUpdateDiagnostic.diagcab which says
"Problems installing recent updates" - not fixed.
"Service Registration is missing or corrupt" - fixed

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Clarification Request
Have you

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made sure the time and date is correct on the computer ?
Is your anti virus program up to date ?
Maybe disable the anti virus and give it a try

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There are too many reasons for this one.

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Let me share a few fixes I used.

1. I manually found and installed IE 11. Then I made it the default browser.
There are folk that will scream "something" about this but hey, it fixed it and I got updates going again.

2. Another time it was the antivirus and firewall. So I uninstalled both and it started working. Again some scream or the client won't do this.

3. Be sure the date and time is set to your timezone. Some folk use a VPN or proxy so they are special cases and not something I will write about ever.

4. Finally there are times you find Iola and such registry cleaners and speed boosters. These and PC fixers seem to create such issues along with that GWX blocker.

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1. I manually found and installed IE 11. Then I made it the default browser.
There are folk that will scream "something" about this but hey, it fixed it and I got updates going again.

IE 11 is my default browser.

2. Another time it was the antivirus and firewall. So I uninstalled both and it started working. Again some scream or the client won't do this.

Using fully updated Microsoft Security Essentials only

3. Be sure the date and time is set to your timezone. Some folk use a VPN or proxy so they are special cases and not something I will write about ever.

Time Date Timezone is GMT summer saving syched to internet time and
no VPN proxy.

4. Finally there are times you find Iola and such registry cleaners and speed boosters. These and PC fixers seem to create such issues along with that GWX blocker.

Possible cleaning issues Wisecare 365 is frequently used
also Never10 recently run to prevent being nagged to "upgrade" to
Win 10.

Last resort is clean Win 7 instal from 6yr old OEM recovery disc and try updating from scratch and avoid any cleaning software except windows disc cleaning utility.

What I'm after is fully updated Win 7 for image backup with minimum software installed. Will then have Win 10 backup and Win 7 backup so
switch from one to the other as wished.

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Bingo.

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You have a setup known to fail (item 4.) Sorry but between Wisecare and Never10 this PC is beyond my help. If this PC's owner does a clean install and repeats the Wisecare and Never10 my bet is they will see the same problems.

That out of the way, The office is going through all the old PCs to move up to 10 before the free upgrades end. Here's it's a treat and we have yet to see why we'd stay with XP, 7 or such. Even if we have a Linux machine we boot into Windows to get the 10 done as the license system changed and we are cheapskates.

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Never10

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I have that on this w7 machine and it does not cause a problem with winup.

As a test run never10 again and revert the changes.
Visit the winup site.

Start w7 in safe mode with networking.
Visit the winup site.

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Sometimes

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It's the brew and not an individual item.

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Yup

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And that's why you start stripping out pieces of the brew to see if you can make any sense out of it.

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What I've done

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1st, I get CCleaner installed because it seems to help. I run it and clean any of the stuff it finds. Then, I run the registry cleaner to fix what it finds. Then, I reboot and run the MS update tool which should return all "fix" in its columns. Once done, I reboot and provided there is a constant link to the web and click on the "MS window updates" and just leave it. I tend to advise do this overnight and allow it to get them. Also, if this fails or doesn't get them all, you should be able to review the update list showing what updates are present. Note down the updates and get them manually at the MS download website, like ie: KB1234567 x64(64-bit version) and get it. Do all the above prior before installing them, just in case the update service is corrupt. Hopefully, one or the other method should reduce the awaiting updates.

tada -----Willy Happy

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Plan 2 failed

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Latest attempt also failed! This time used my win 7 recovery disk for a clean install and installed Microsoft Security Essentials and LAN driver for internet access. Did not load any other software and used Windows Update set to recommended automatic updates. Updated to SP1 after several tedious hours. Then crunch time! Final update was reached which was update of the update system. After that updating ran for ever without finding didly squat. Tried safe mode but Windows Update was impossible to open. Not sure if updating works in safe mode? Widows Update Diagnostic was used but failed to fix the problem. Saying.....
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Windows Update error 0x80070057(2016-07-15-T-12_32_25P) Not fixed
Problems installing recent updates Not fixed
Service registration is missing or corrupt Fixed
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InformationalError Report
RootCause: RC_DataStore
ErrorCode: 0x80070057
TimeDetected: 2016-07-15-T-02:00:38
----------------------------------------------------------
https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/kb/971058
above link to "how do I reset windows update components?"
Tried the Win 7 troubleshooter but not fixed problem
Then started Manual Fix via Admin command prompt but it soon became
apparent that over twenty of the suggested .dll files could either not be found or else command returned message for several .dll files...
EG. module "wucltux.dll was loaded but the call to DLLRegisterServer failed
The final Update of Update System seems to be the problem. Up to that point updates were working just fine!
error code 0x80070005

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Having just done this on a clean install.

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Microsoft has totally dropped the ball on automatic updates on a clean W7 install. If the DVD was W7 SP1 it seems to work.

So I'll share what I did.

1. Remove all partitions since I want to be sure any rootkit or other crud is gone.
2. Install W7 and do not install any drivers yet. Connect with Ethernet and let it try to update.

3. That failed but I was on the web so I installed the standalone packages for IE 11 and SP1.

After that it began to autoupdate.

Later I got around to drivers.

Post was last edited on July 22, 2016 3:08 PM PDT

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Plan 3 the

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Thanks guys for all your advice. Forgot to mention Windows Explorer 11 was downloaded and installed after Service Pack 1 completed.
(you can't install IE 11 until then). Backed up Windows 7 before the final
update of update system (decidedly the brick wall to further updates)
Only outstanding advice not tried in to hide the update of updater which is a wacky idea but nothing to lose....so as I am presently using Win 10, will try Win 7 again with fingers crossed!
If then not fixed will email Microsoft for help.

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How about

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Start from the beginning.
Set winup to download but let me chose.
After it finishes with all the downloads locate the update to the updater and hide it.

Ya I know that's a klutz way to do things.

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windows update failures now

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Do you know what the update KB# is for the "Update for Windows Update"? It's a Win 7 system problem (no updates or upgrades).

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Kb#

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Looks like kb3050265.

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Manually install service packs

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You can manually install Service Pack 1 by downloading it locally first.

Usually after installing it updates start coming as expected.

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I've done this and had to install....

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I found I had to manually install IE11 as well.

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microsoft forum

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surely you can find a solution for that in microsoft forum.in Q&A section they have the same problem

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