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About 30 days.
have you considered Linux?
Yes but they have another computer in the office running win 10
What was the original OS?
Don't know. No hd when I got it and no os stickers on the machine.
See Bob below.
Good news everybody.
The Linux I use has Libre Office and more. So it plays well in the office.
But let's say you want Windows. Here's the cheap fix.
Order the Factory Restore Media from Toshiba.
Now factory restore and let it update and offer 10. That's your cheapest road out of the jungle.
Thanks Bob. This is the route I will probably go.
The issue with Windows 10 activation
is it gets activated when you upgrade to Windows 10. It doesn't use a key but it uses a hash number based on your hardware. So if the Windows 10 wasn't activated with an upgraded to that PC the clean install your copied to the USB stick must be used on the PC where WIndows 10 was activated. Now MS has recently allowed you to enter the Windows 7 or 8.1 keys to activate Windows 10 on a clean install. In other words the ISO on your USB stick will only work on a pc that has been actived during the upgrade to windows 10.
best to make it legit if donating
without a key basically you are out of luck and you do not want to donate the computer without a legit operating system. It would create an additional expense for the church if they want to be legit.
as far as the linux suggestion - if it is only to be use for general usage like email and word processing there should be no problems using linux. It works very similar to windows so there will not be much of a learning curve. I would suggest linux mint. you can download it, install it on a usb stick or dvd and run it from them without installing to see if they can like it.
Donation? Just wipe the drive.
No need for it to run Windows at all. Just install Linux and donate. Not a single reason to lose another minute or dollar on this one.
Remember it's a donation, but a pledge of support.
I thank all of you for your comments. What I am going to do is take the long route.
I have a legit copy of win 7. It has been laying around here for some time.
I plan to do a clean install of it. Then I can install win 10 legally and it will match the other machine in the church office.
The down side is because the win 7 disk has been with me for a while it will take many hours to process all the updates so that win 10 will load properly. I don't mind the time as I am a retired 82 year old. Been working on computers since NCR corp started building them in the late 1950's.
I have sucessfuly installed win 10 on 2 Laptops and 4 desktops with absolutely no problems except one bulky audio driver, and I love win 10. blows my mind to all the problems and complaints on the board here because people want instent sucess instead of proceeding the required and proper way. Thanks again for all your omments.
The second downside.
The Windows 7 license will be invalidated in 30 days so you can't use it again.
Recovery media here runs 40 bucks or less.
A full up retail Windows 7 license is 99 bucks.
I'd get recovery media for this plus I don't like the work of the driver hunt.
second down side
Don't understand your answer Bob.
I have a valid win 7 pro never used. Are you telling me because I paid for it over a year ago never use it and now I can only use it for 30 days?
If that windows disc is OEM...
it can only be used on the machine it came with. OEM licenses are tied to the machine they came with. Is it a retail version?
If you have a valid Windows 7 Pro you can see it's worth 132USD
Windows 10 (builders version) is 97.97.
Restore media here rarely goes over 35USD.
I can't guess your choices here but if you used your Windows 7 Pro and it upgraded to 10 your 7 license is no more. Some folk explode over that.
Your choice, mine, since it's donation is to let them have it as-is and let the church IT sort it out.
you would not be able to reuse it anyway
look at it this way. You need something to justify installing the FREE upgrade version of win10. Once you used it to justify the FREE upgrade, it can never be used again or should I say you have 30 days to remove win10 and install your win7 instead.
You are not kidding?
If I have win7 (retail), I should not upgrade to win10 if I want to use it again on another computer sometime down the line?
not if it justified an upgrade
you cannot ever use a full retail version again if it was used to justify an upgrade as long as the upgrade is active. Only if you remove the upgrade or trash the computer (not resell) can you reuse the full retail version.
you mean can't "legally" use it
As opposed to "unable" to use it. The morality of it is up to the license holder.
you are taking a chance
You are taking a chance of getting your system declared non-genuine and lose your activation. I have seen it happen too many times. I have also seen both systems declared non-genuine because of illegal installs since Microsoft's genuine test cannot tell which one is legit. It is a chance they are taking
I don't know why people....
....put up with it anymore. I was a Microsoft fan till XP and activation came along. After SP3 arrived and would put one in activation hell, which required a registry change before it could be fixed properly, and that was never fixed by Microsoft, I knew it was quits for me with them eventually. Now there's Linux without "activation virus", I'd rather put up with the occassional search for alternate programs at times than deal with Microsoft's lack of privacy controls and inbuilt activation virus. I'm sort of surprised Microsoft hasn't gone totally to ONLY OEM windows, and I suspect they may in future. It's the only one that is similar to windows prior to XP since it's tied to the motherboard, so no need for activation like non OEM. What they're doing with Win10 is pretty much that now.
For me, probably the rest of my life....Linux.
Don't know why
My origional post is getting very long.
I will close with my final statement. I had a friend who had a repair business. He closed it down and retired. he gave me several win 7 retail copies that he didn't sell. one of those I will use to install on the computer I plan on upgrading to 10. I know it cannot be used again. I did google search on my origional question on how long would ms allow a win 10 to function without activating and did not find a real answer. One poster here said 30 days but I have been using it more than 30 days here in my home. My only reason for not wanting to install one om my retail copies of 7 is that they are old and I will have to install nearly 300 updates to bring it into qualifying for upgrade to win 10. I am retired so have plenty time on my hands to do this. Thank you all for your input as I thing it was an enlightment to many readers.
you do not have to install updates
wow..this is too confusing.
At least in the old day we know where and how it work but now.....
I think I'll just use my retail win8.1 as is and not upgrade.
win 8 or win 10
You should use the win 8 or thanks to someone on the phone to activate win 10