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Willie Nelson on his MJ bust

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I still believe Toby Keith is responsible...

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... for Willie getting busted. Is it coincidence that Keith was on Stephen Colbert's The Colbert Report bragging about how much pot smoking was done on Willie's tour bus when he was there... and Willies' tour bus is stopped and searched within days of the shows airing?

Not saying what Willie and his crew was doing was right... just saying that Willie has been upfront about his pot smoking for years so why isn't he busted more often? Cause Willie doesn't go around announcing it on national TV!


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One thing to consider ...

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Those tour busses are compartmentalized...

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...at least when you get to the level of stardom that Willie is at... To the point of being soundproofed in several sections... separate sleeping areas for crew and separate one for headliner , living area, lavatory, and the driver's compartment so he/she can drive without disturbing the passengers, Look at the roof of these busses (or at the tops of the most expensive RV's on the road) and you will see 2 and 3 separate air conditioning units for zone by zone ventilation.

I'm not saying the door from the back to the driver's compartment wasn't open... not saying that the driver wasn't partaking himself (although in my experience with IATSE work - drivers are more likely to do speed than smoke pot, but more likely altogether, to be fired if caught under the influence) but a professional tour driver who does drugs while driving on tour is actually an extremely rare thing. You simply can't be stoned/drunk and keep up with the grueling tour schedule.

The likelihood of second hand buzz by the driver and a wall of smoke rolling out from the buss door when it opened (i know that is not described but I'm sure it is what many imagine) is improbable. Besides... I'm sure the driver was put through a field sobriety test immediately although the cops would have had plenty of time to do blood work/urine tests, and get results, considering how long the police would have taken tearing a tour bus apart along with luggage and equipment.

My opinion is the Toby Keith interview was a factor in the stop and search. In his 5 minute interview on Colbert... he spent more time talking about the prodigious pot smoking on Willies' bus than he did talking about himself.

JMO Happy


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I didn't make it up

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"When the door was opened and the trooper began to speak to the driver, he smelled the strong odor of marijuana,"

Most tour busses don't say who they belong to on them. I think the Toby Keith thing is fishing for a conspiracy.

The driver should have been put through a field sobriety test, but there's no indication that he was.
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Maybe ... just maybe

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I never said there might not be other contributing factors.

Trying to imply that I said you made the account up is just not true. I did not address the voracity of the reason behind the search at all. But now I will...As for what the cop said to the press or what was released as a public statement. The accuracy of any play by play account is suspect whether it's from a citizen talking to a news crew... or a cop telling a war story of how they busted Willie Nelson. Having coordinated with law enforcement on some of my jobs... the justification for probable cause is easily created out in the field... sometimes after the fact. This goes back to the idea of profiling when making a traffic stop. You stop someone... everything checks out... the police is ready to let you go and then that one last question is asked... "BTW, do you mind if I search your vehicle?" As soon as you say no? They have legal right to detain you for the K9 crew to be called in and sniff the outside of your car... dog acts like it got a hit? Then the police can unload the car and search your belongings. I see it 2 or 3 times a week on a nearby highway that the college kids use to travel to school from home in new york/jersey/ eastern PA.

When all is said and done... the Willie stop could have happened just the way it was portrayed. It could have been coincidence but I pointed out that it was interesting that Toby Keith went on and on about it and the next week Willie got busted for it. Yeah, it is conspiracy talk... it's fun, fanciful speculation... as such, why are you putting so much effort into debunking it?

Colbert obscure? Just because you don't watch it doesn't mean that it is a show without impact. A word in the dictionary... a standup routine at a White House dinner... more than a few video bites on popular streaming video sites. He has made his own impact as any AM radio talk show pundit playing every afternoon. Wink

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Not so much debunking it ...

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... just find your blame placing to be a stretch. Must be that all of the drug running college kids are getting stopped in WVa because I'm driving on highways in the tri-state area (and beyond) VERY regularly and haven't seen a car being searched on the side more than once a month if that.

I didn't say obscure, I said (and even italicized) RELATIVELY. Not sure who you are comparing him to, but I just go by the ratings and demographics. His audience is largely young males. Nothing wrong with that, but Nelson could probably have gone on that show and announced where his tour bus was going to be and that they would be smoking weed on it and I doubt it would have gotten the attention of law enforcement.

Far more plausible that Willie ruffled some feathers doing the decriminalization schtick with the Kinkster.

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(NT) (NT) Quite possible ;-)

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(NT) (NT) I can't but agree with him.

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(NT) (NT) What a waste of law enforcement resources.

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