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Cry wolf often enough, and your legitimate messages get
ignored. It seems to be an irresistable temptation for some folks who don't seem to have thought through the consequences. Or, have they?
definition of "torture."
I've asked you this before
What could anyone do to a "prisoner" in Iraq, that YOU would consider torture?
(NT) Make him listen to Britney Spears 24/7.
but, how would we know it's Britney Spears?
Hasn't she been known to lip synch?
well see its this way
id do anything to get info there subhumans
they kill indescrimatly they get no easy going
and if you dont like my views tough
ask the people who die from these "peacefull" people
"The people we are torturing are terrorists. They are suspects in the War On Terror, enemies of the state. They are not the soldiers of any organized army and therefore are afforded no protections under the Geneva Convention. For all intents and purposes, they are spies."
Just shoot them and be done with it.
Just shoot them and be done with it
They could wait until they are in jail and make sure they are not "just civilians"
US military probes Iraq killings
US military investigators have flown to Iraq to study reports that marines shot dead at least 15 civilians, including seven women and three children.
The incident is said to have happened in Haditha on 19 November 2005.
The military's initial claim that the civilians died in a roadside blast was disproved by an earlier investigation.
(NT) Are'nt we talking about ones already proven as such.
Some/many were in jail because someone ''got some money'' (paid informant) to ''point out'' people that were/might be terrorists/spies.
They are letting people out all the time, so some of them obviously were'nt terrorists.
Perhaps they promised to stop terrorising.
Do you have a point
the only possible one is that the military is honest in investigating itself. There's a situationw here troops might have killed innocent civilians, and the military is investigating. They could have just accepted the original explanation and swept it under the rug, but they didn't.
Your post supports the military's honesty and effectiveness dealing with its troops. Yet, the post has little to do with the discussion at hand.
military's honesty and effectiveness dealing with its troops
It's too late to do the right thing now
After innocent people are dead.
The connection is "just shoot'em"
That's what they did.
That's what (George?) Rolway recommended.
some die so many may live
if they use force to get info so what
(NT) Unless it's you or your loved ones?
my loved ones dont
carry guns/or behave in a way to draw atraction.do yours?
George was speaking of confirmed
terrorists... not random people found on the street. It may seem hard to believe, but back in the day, governments executed those who were dedicated to destroying them. Now we give them a big hug and appreciate them for their different point of view.
But again, nice try to draw the conversation in a completely different direction.
(NT) Didn't sound like it
when George quoted "The people we are torturing are terrorists" I thought he was speaking of, well, terrorists. My bad.
Your position is supported by the Geneva Convention, BTW.
It's too bad we have become too concerned with appearances, isn't it?
(NT) and its the death of troops
Perhaps tomorrow and Monday
There will be some answers
GENEVA (AP) ? The United States comes under official UN grilling for the first time Friday over its compliance with the global ban on torture, with questions focusing on allegations of secret CIA prisons and flights transferring terror suspects for possible torture in other countries.
The UN Committee Against Torture, the global body?s watchdog for a 22-year-old treaty forbidding prisoner abuse, will quiz U.S. officials on a series of issues ranging from Washington?s interpretation of the absolute ban on torture to its interrogation methods in prisons such as Abu Ghraib and Guantanamo Bay.
The United States, like the 140 other countries that have signed the Convention Against Torture, must submit reports to the committee to show it is applying the rules.
Of course, if there is "no such thing" as torture, it doesn't matter what anyone discovers.
and again its the un
how is the un doing in dufar?(sp) seems like its smoke screen
If Amnesty International doesn't like...
a free and safe place to live there are a lot of places they can go. One particular place quickly come to mind.