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Why should I upgrade to Windows 10?

Nov 11, 2015 10:03PM PST

I've had this annoying "free upgrade" for Windows 10 popping up on my computer for over a month now and although I was tempted to do it I kept putting it off. My daughter, a college student, has an HP laptop less than two years old and she needs it for some online course materials and exams. Last week she fell to the temptation and upgraded to Win 10....and disaster. The laptop hung with a black screen and she needed it that evening. Long story short she was able to get a 12-hour reprieve by her professor for an important exam and had to borrow someone else's computer. It took five days for us to undo the problem - apparently a graphics driver or bios incompatibility. (If that is indeed the issue then Win 10 with all it's built-in diagnostics should have stopped the installation and informed the user that that was the problem rather than allow it to hang!) What's worse is that in her panic she took the laptop to a computer service center and the "expert" there told her that her hard disc was corrupted and he would have to reformat and reinstall Windows 7 with a loss of all her files and it would only cost her $200. Thank god I told her to pick it up and we'd fight our way through it or else sue Microsoft. After we finally reverted to Windows 7 and deleted any Windows 10 stuff we agreed that we both are so afraid of upgrading that we'll live with Windows 7 forever. So, what compelling reason is there to attempt another upgrade? What really angers me is the arrogance of Microsoft - with all the resources they have they leave the user to fight thru issues like this rather than resolve some obvious flaw - or even admit that there's a problem. Thankfully we weren't completely lost because there were hundreds of others with the same problem and one of the internet sites helped us to find a solution (although most didn't have a clue). Microsoft's response - if you don't update your drivers to Windows 10 compatible that's your fault. Actually we checked and we have the latest HP drivers and bios. I've had to fight my way through too many Microsoft Windows issues that I'm actually considering doing the unthinkable - switching to an alternative like Linux.

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Wait.
Nov 11, 2015 10:52PM PST

Are you telling me someone doesn't backup their stuff and computer?

As to 10, I'm moving forward on what machines offer it. At the office dozens done without problems. Sure we have to go find a driver now and then but what's new about that?

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Well i tried to upgrade one
Nov 12, 2015 7:41AM PST

older PC and when I first reserved my Windows 10 and the little icon appeared on by taskbar and I did they check for compatibility it said all was clear. Then the day Windows 10 was available to the public I attempted to install Windows 10 and it said it couldn't install because Nvidia wouldn't and didn't plan to support the Nvidia GTX 7600 mobile graphics card. SO in this situation Nvidia was pro active and notified MS. Well not all compnaies are pro active and don't allways notify MS.

One issue that affects MS is OEM's use thousands of different components in their PC's. The OEM get the drivers from the components manufacturers and even modify them to run on their hardware. So it's a group effort to change OS's. Drivers are basically how a hardware components (say a printer) talks to Windows. You have Canon, Hp, Epson and many printer manufacturers and they all need to talk to windows to understand like it fot want to chnage for landscape to portrait on a printout. The drivers have to tell the printer you want to do it and the printer needs to understand.

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DON`T UPGRADE!!!!
Nov 20, 2015 5:55AM PST

Yep, I did it too and discovered the "Big Brother" effect from Microsoft. Not only do they try to force you to use only their programs, they actually delete any others. Case in point, I prefer to use Bit Defender for my antivirus and malware protection. The upgrade not only blocked it but deleted all files relating to it including the application download. Also Goggle Chrome would no longer work, not even when loading Chrome Canary which is supposed to be the work around for Win 10. After trying to make all my stuff work in Win 10, (about 2 weeks), I decided to go back to my Win 7 Ultimate that I paid for. To my dismay, the Win 10 upgrade erased all the old windows files and I had to reformat my hard drive in order to get back to my Win 7 Ultimate. Thank God I had a backup so I didn`t lose all my files. After about 4 days of work, I have basically all of my stuff back. I have been a dedicated customer to Microsoft for over 20 years and this is about the last straw! Microsoft seems to be trying to gain control of too much personal information. In the present time with all the information hacks going on, I don`t like the idea of sharing ALL my personal info, and that is what Microsoft is trying to do to so they can monopolize the business. My advise to all is to NOT upgrade to Win10. It is too much of a gamble and there is NO guaranty of total security!!!

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Hmm, Let's see
Nov 20, 2015 7:05AM PST

Bit Defender say's this > Here
IMPORTANT: Should you decide to do that, prior to the OS upgrade, we would recommend exporting the Bitdefender Wallet database, so you can import it again after this process (this will keep your Wallet information in Windows 10).

Did you export the Wallet before installing Win 10 ?

Google Chrome say's it's ready for Windows 10 Here

As far as controlling too much personal info goes, Ed Bott wrote an interesting article about that Here

Maybe you just didn't read up on things first

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Points Taken.
Nov 20, 2015 12:10PM PST

O.K. Points taken. My point is that his upgrade is being pushed on all windows users, not just the experts like you. From what I have read, there´s a lot of non experts that trust Microsoft and have had similar issues. Just like all other upgrades, it´ll probably be pretty good after the bugs are worked out. Right now, if I change from Win 7, it will be to an entirely different OS and away from Microsoft after over 20 years with them.

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If it ain't broke, don't fix it!
Nov 20, 2015 12:53PM PST

That's the bottom line for me. Windows 7 is supported until 2020 and 8.1 until 2023. How many present computers will still be around in 2023? A few I'm sure, but the vast majority will have been replaced by newer computers which will have 10 pre-installed by the manufacturer.
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I've been running 10 on 2 test desktops, and it's been stable and compatible for me, but my main desktop and my laptop are working just fine with Windows 7 and will continue to do so until the time comes for me to replace them. All my software, Chrome included, works with 10, but there's simply nothing in 10 that 7 doesn't do just fine, thank you very much! I have no use for Edge, Cortana, or the crAPPs. YMMV

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my wife and daughter use W7
Nov 20, 2015 1:10PM PST

but I moved direct from XP over to Mint MATE linux distro even before it's support expired and never been happier since W2000. I actually preferred it over XP.

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Privacy
Nov 20, 2015 1:26PM PST
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Keep Windows 7 for as long as it lasts
Nov 21, 2015 1:39PM PST

Updates for W7 initially were set to expire in Janaury 2020. I bet we will see the same thing with Windows 7 that we saw with Windows XP - an extention of several years for updates.

Windows 10 is a farce and Microsoft has dangled the word "free" like a carrot to being the unspecting masses to a privacy stealing, proxy server and ugly closed-off GUI.

It is not fast to navigate, the Start Menu (which millions of us demanded since WCool is fair but is not the Hallmark Start Menu Microsoft should build into every Personal Computer for users who use keyboards and a mice. No touchy-feely garbage for me and my screen.

A personal computer for gamers, businesses, employees and anyone who is productive on a computer should have what I have coined in other forums for a year: Classic Windows Start Menu.

Don't waste your time on Windows 10 unless you are using a mobile-touch-device.