Why isn't this guy running our country?

as one that is glad to see you back

...A whoooole lot more than you think....including those really neat people who don't post here anymore because they succumbed to flaming left wing radical boo hoo artists who BASH, TRASH, and acid mouth the USA on a regular basis.

I would dearly love to see some of them check in here to let the good people here know they're still alive and well. That would really be like a breath of fresh air among the stale, putrid, foul, rotten crap that's spewed here.

but the county employees in California would go into prisons and teach basic literacy. Turns out an awful lot of prisoners are illiterate. They don't know how to read directions or even fill out a job application. They did a study and those that learned to read at a junior high level and a lower recidivism rate than the normal population.

I agree that prisoners shouldn't be getting Pell grants, etc. If they want to go to college, let them get student loans just like the rest of us.

Diana

"RECIDIVISM RATES

The bottom line measurement for judging the success of correctional education is, traditionally, reduction of recidivism. In a 1989 study, NYSDOCS reported that, ?Overall, the offenders who earned a GED while incarcerated returned at a considerably lower rate (34%) than those offenders who did not earn a GED while incarcerated (39.1%).?

A study by the Federal Bureau of Prisons found that, ?Recidivism rates were inversely related to educational program participation in prison. The more educational programs successfully completed for each six months confined, the lower the recidivism rate.

For inmates successfully completing one or more courses per each six months of their prison term, 35.5% recidivated, compared to 44.1% of those who successfully completed no courses during their prison term.?

Source: Measuring success of prison education.

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The study, as repesented, did not take into account other factors that may have caused both the lower recidivism rates and the desire for education.
For example, psychological profiles of criminals that show a sense of regret or personal responsibility might reveal that the non-returning populations were inherently less likely to return. As such, they made plans to establish themselves after release.... taking classes.
The question still remains about the effectiveness of hard, hellish conditions in prisons. You cannot discount it without proof, as you did.

that don't seem right.they also get many perks and free medical.I don't get a free college education,free medical,or the perks they receive in the real wourld are not free.


I'm talking about the violent crimminals.What alot of people don't realize,for what ever reason,whether its cause their naive,they live in better areas,or what ever, is that these individuals who commit such despicable acts like attacking and killing someone,as far as i'm concerened turned rabbit and are no longer to be trusted.Don't be naive,they will kill you in a heartbeat.


Lets look at the other side of the coin.What about the victims.Wheres their justice,say this to the victims family,the individual who murdered your family member for $20 is receiveing a free education,Ask them if this makes them feel better.

prisons not for anything in my opinion but punishment

less coddoling these crooks less returns

a black high school principal (who had a movie made after his experiences and techniques...and I don't recall his name but I can sure see his face easily in my mind) being called the same name. But his techniques and rules got his New York City or New Jersey school back under control and kids actually began learning. He carried a baseball bat around if I remember correctly.

Both of these gentlemen are the John Wayne's of today and very effective. We need many, many more of them around.

TONI

That's a whole different person, and different approach, and a role figure, not a deliberate tormentor. The black principle carried the ball bat around not for students but to keep the gang bangers out of the school and to provide protection for the students that were there and wanting to get an education. He was interested in helping them make something of themselves. I do not see this sheriff as exhibiting the same qualities.

tortured, James...they're being PUNISHED for their CRIMES.

And think of how low the assault rate is against the officers in charge of them compared to prison systems where the prisoners are actually living high on the hog with bennies no normal, law-abiding citizen can get for free.

If you honestly think prisoners of any type should be treated to anything other than complete punishment without the goodies they've been handed for far too long already, become a mentor and contribute your own money and time for all of it....for just ONE prisoner and see how you might then appreciate what the lawful population feels about hving our taxes go for the prison population and all it entails today. And when that prisoner is finally released, do you think you guys will be best buds because he'll/she'll appreciate it so much?

TONI

You really want someone picked up for having a "joint" on them, or for public drunkeness (not even causing a scene!) picked up and then serving time in prison where perverted sex is already a problem, being "fagged" up by a wacko sheriff dressing them in pink? You want the person who did no wrong to someone else left sweltering under a hot sun in a tent on the hottest days of the year? That is deliberate sadism on the part of that sheriff, he needs to be removed from his position or be forced to wear pink and drive a pink car at all times, and one without any AC.

and drunk in public is also a crime in my area and regularly those people are locked up in the local jail. Both cases would require bond/bail while waiting for trial and both would probably be let out on probation more times than not. You are outraged over the color pink it appears....I can bet you even money that none of those prisoners ever try to break out...they would be spotted in a heartbeat. LOL

Now...if those people were made to be in the tent fully clothed in that heat or not given any salt tablets and water, THAT would be something to be upset about, doncha think? They were given wet PINK towels to put on themselves to abate the heat....I think that's pretty generous treatment. He didn't make them work at some type of labor in that heat after all.

TONI

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gets repete ofenders talk about being nice talk to the person in jail have them released into your custody let them live with you after there babyied and not punished

has spent the day in the tents and often eats the same food with the inmates. Personally I don't like Arpaio, he is a big camera hog But he does the job he is paid to do! And apparently the people in this County like it cause they continue to vote him in

seems you would be well liked and run against him but then liberals allways feel like you do

hes allways reelected glad the people there dont coddle scum

not comfy maybe after release wont screw up again

...quoting some medical diagnosis?

And this for our Maricopa County Arizona residents:...(like Glenda Sue)

Do you have any statistics on Joe Arpaio's latest election results...political party, and mainly, what percentage of the votes did Sheriff Arpaio receive?

Funny you should ask Everyone I know says they wouldn't vote for him again, and yet he was re-elected!!! LOL! He always gets the biggest percentage of the vote

...maybe in 2004...there were 3 guys running...Arpaio and 2 wannabees. the vote split from (I think) the Maricopa County Elections function was (give or take) 60, 30, 10 percentage points...Not to shabby for a BAD man in a three man election as James effuses, exudes, and ejaculates about Sheriff Joe Arpaio's mental condition.

...true colors"...as they used to say on the high seas. To me, that's an interesting piece of information about your way of thinking.