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Why isn't this guy running our country?

by TONI H / May 3, 2006 1:11 AM PDT

Sheriff Joe Arpaio



Sheriff Joe Arpaio (in Arizona) who created the "tent city jail":

He has jail meals down to 40 cents a serving and charges the inmates for them.

He stopped smoking and porno magazines in the jails. Took away their weights. Cut off all but "G" movies.

He started chain gangs so the inmates could do free work on county and city projects.

Then he started chain gangs for women so he wouldn't get sued for discrimination.

He took away cable TV until he found out there was a federal court order that required cable TV for jails. So he hooked up the cable TV again only let in the Disney channel and the weather channel.

When asked why the weather channel he replied, so they will know how hot it's gonna be while they are working on my chain gangs.

In 1994 he banned coffee from the Maricopa County Jail, but he did so not because of its lack of nutritional value, but to protect inmates and guards from hot-coffee assaults by other inmates and to lower costs. (By eliminating the estimated 5,000 cups of coffee served daily for 5,400 inmates, it was expected the county would save $94,158 a year.)

When the inmates complained, he told them, "This isn't the Ritz/Carlton. If you don't like it, don't come back."

He bought Newt Gingrich' lecture series on videotape that he pipes into the jails.

When asked by a reporter if he had any lecture series by a Democrat, he replied that a democratic lecture series might explain why a lot of the inmates were in his jails in the first place.

More on the Arizona Sheriff:

With temperatures being even hotter than usual in Phoenix (116 degrees just set a new record), the Associated Press reports: About 2,000 inmates living in a barbed-wire-surrounded tent encampment at the Maricopa County Jail have been given permission to strip down to their government-issued pink boxer shorts.

On Wednesday, hundreds of men wearing boxers were either curled up on their bunk beds or chatted in the tents, which reached 138 degrees inside the week before.

Many were also swathed in wet, pink towels as sweat collected on their chests and dripped down to their pink socks.

"It feels like we are in a furnace," said James Zanzot, an inmate who has lived in the tents for 1 year. "It's inhumane."

Joe Arpaio, the tough-guy sheriff who created the tent city and long ago started making his prisoners wear pink, and eat bologna sandwiches, is not one bit sympathetic He said Wednesday that he told all of the inmates: "It's 120 degrees in Iraq and our soldiers are living in tents too, and they have to wear full battle gear, but they didn't commit any crimes, so shut your damned mouths!"

Way to go, Sheriff! Maybe if all prisons were like this one there would be a lot less crime and/or repeat offenders. Criminals should be punished for their crimes - not live in luxury until it's time for their parole, only to go out and commit another crime so they can get back in to live on taxpayers money and enjoy things taxpayers can't afford to have for themselves.

Sheriff Joe was just reelected Sheriff in Maricopa County, Arizona.


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(NT) (NT) I think I'd vote for Newt Gingrich
by marinetbryant / May 3, 2006 1:12 AM PDT
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He would be tarred a racist ...
by Evie / May 3, 2006 1:15 AM PDT

... and a whole lot more!

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(NT) (NT) More reasons to vote for him!
by marinetbryant / May 3, 2006 1:21 AM PDT
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by marinetbryant / May 3, 2006 1:26 AM PDT

I just get so upset that every one has rights and sacred "cultures" except the majority. O'Reilly cautioned last night to not let one's disgust turn into hate of a whole peoples because of the actions of a few. But when do we stand up for ourselves and how do we stop the madness? Maybe I should follow Toni's and Mark's lead and take a vacation.


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i dont hate the lawfull imigrants
by Mark5019 / May 3, 2006 1:30 AM PDT
In reply to: Explanation

just the invaders the lawbreakers who flaunt it in our faces
we should have rounded them all up

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(NT) (NT) hes got my vote
by Mark5019 / May 3, 2006 1:23 AM PDT
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I concur 100%,but with the exception...
by tomron / May 3, 2006 1:25 AM PDT

of a minor infractions.People are sentenced due to traffic violations,such as did'nt pay some parking tickets.That would certainly be unjust for such a petty act.


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by Mark5019 / May 3, 2006 1:26 AM PDT

the laws the law dont pay go to jail

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well,I don,t see any justice...
by tomron / May 3, 2006 2:02 AM PDT
In reply to: why?

in sending someone jail under such with severe conditions for such a minor infraction.

"the laws the law dont pay go to jail"

There are degrees of punishment,according to the act.If we use your logic,then a convicted murderer would receive the same time as one who stole a loaf of bread.To subject a law abiding citizen to such abuse for a damn ticket is absurd.

These conditions are supposed to be for the low lifes.i digress,the law is supposed to protect the law abiding citizens,but somehow it turned into a business.Tickets are designed to rob you.


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as toni statted
by Mark5019 / May 3, 2006 4:35 AM PDT

when you scoff at the law you invite worse.
sentences can be 1 week for non payment of 1 parking ticket to death for murder.

with your logic the invaders from mexico whould be welcomed into our homes

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by tomron / May 3, 2006 4:58 AM PDT
In reply to: as toni statted

What i'm trying to get at is tickets (well,according to the law its a crimminal act),I for one don't agree.Someone who gets a ticket is not a threat to socity and should not be thrown into a cage.The only reason for tickets is to make money,some people are naive and don't know or don't understand that.

The law is supposed to protect people from the low lifes,but it turned into a business.The way they make more money is to rob,yes i said rob their own citizens.So many people are so damn naive and have no idea how the world really is.Goverments do extort their own citizens,and yes,the U.S. is no exception.

I don,t know where Toni got it that i was suggesting to slap crimminals on the wrist.I feel that the legal system is to soft on the crimminals.They come out and kill again,they wait forever and a day on death row,they get last meals,chance to speak with their families,and lets not forget not to hurt them if it goes down.

Now,the victim,no last meals,no chance to speak with family,an i'm qiute sure they felt pain,both,physically and mentally.

She took what i said out of context.

And,give me a brake,a parking ticket,who cares


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parking ticket, speeding tickets
by Mark5019 / May 3, 2006 5:07 AM PDT
In reply to: Mark

when unpaid go to jail.
other wise why have laws

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Notice the mind set...
by tomron / May 3, 2006 6:29 AM PDT

that most seem to have."when unpaid go to jail"

People are so conditioned or,is the word brainwashed to adhere to certain society rules,laws,beliefs,this and that even if their wrong.Sounds pavlovian to me.


why does it have to be jail for a ticket.why not suspend the D.L. or how about probation.why does it have to be {u]JAIL.I know why,do you?

Back to what i said earlier,they want the money,and by the possiblity of jail,they have a better chance of getting the money.

so many people don,t realize that the world is a bussiness.Money makes the rules.

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so why have any laws then
by Mark5019 / May 3, 2006 6:54 AM PDT
In reply to: Notice the mind set...

lets be an unlawfull land as you dont want laws or pick and choose.

glad im a law abideing arms carring american as were being invaded

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Your taking it out of context
by tomron / May 3, 2006 7:41 AM PDT

I'm not advocating anarchy.What i'm saying is that law abaiding citizens should'nt be thrown in jail for every petty thing.

Well,according to some posts here, thats the way it should be.OK,littering is against the law,so if you throw a piece of paper on the ground,looks like your going to the chain gang for a few months.That is insane,absurd,and off the deep end.Can't you see that there is something wrong with putting people in jail for this stupid stuff.

Another factor you may not be aware of is that if someone goes to jail for this petty crap is they might lose their job,now the family would be homeless all cause of a minor infraction,i will never agree with that insanity.do you think its alright to destroy a family over something petty,and if you say they should'nt have done it,cuts no ice with me.

You don't throw people in jail for petty crap,jail is for the low lifes.

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if they pay tickets then they wont
by Mark5019 / May 3, 2006 9:27 AM PDT

go to jail obey the law and thats the bottom line

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Right. Around this big city tho
by John Robie / May 3, 2006 9:51 AM PDT

enforcing parking tickets is apparently a low end priority with cops having more urgent business than hunting for people with unpaid parking tickets. About once a year or every other year our newspaper will have an article about cracking down on parking tickets and will publish a partial list of names of people who have 50 - 100+ unpaid parking tickets, and guess who the majority of the violators are....Lawyers. They will run down and pay their back fines before having to spend time getting booked at Police Hq for a day or hours in jail.

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Aw what the hell -
by Diana Forum moderator / May 3, 2006 11:03 AM PDT

hang them all and then we won't have to worry about jails of any kind.


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would tend to make them think about
by Mark5019 / May 3, 2006 11:32 AM PDT
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obeying the laws would you think so?

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Sure, smoke a joint, hang 'em
by Roger NC / May 3, 2006 6:41 PM PDT

Exceed the speed limit a bit, shoot them.

Late with a tax payment, behead them.

Leave the car in a no parking zone while "just running in for a minute", cut off their legs.

Drunk in public, give them life.

Slander someone, remove their tongue.

Shrug, or we can just kill everyone and let the gods that be sort it out. Push that red button then.


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it sure beats
by Mark5019 / May 3, 2006 10:06 PM PDT

hand them a pell grant excersise equipment
but then again i beleave prisons are for punishment

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Everyone breaks some law sometime
by Roger NC / May 4, 2006 6:10 AM PDT

And that's true even just the ones we know about.

Think about some of the laws left from earlier days that are technically still law.

But besides, I personally doubt anyone goes without knowing breaking some law sometime. It may be jaywalking, speeding, spitting on the sidewalk.

Or it may be not reporting income, overcharging on a bill, or something else that people plays at seeing how much they can get away with.

It may be much more serious, shoplifing, burgarly, armed robbery, assault, murder.

Point is all crime doesn't deserve the same punishment really. Punishment perhaps, but not the same.


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(NT) (NT) Save 6 for pallbearers
by JP Bill / May 3, 2006 11:49 AM PDT
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I forgot about the...
by tomron / May 3, 2006 5:05 AM PDT
In reply to: as toni statted

"with your logic the invaders from mexico whould be welcomed into our homes"

I think not

I don't see the connection with your statement and the context of my post

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by Mark5019 / May 3, 2006 5:12 AM PDT
In reply to: I forgot about the...

if you ignore the people who dont pay tickets where do you draw the line for home invaders.

and as to tickets robbing you, why have speed limits as if you get caught speeding you get a ticket, and your saying thats robbery.
and then i guess you feel its ok to speed and maybe kill some one because of there being no laws to that as you get a ticket for speeding unless your really flying down the road

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No,i'm not saying that
by tomron / May 3, 2006 5:46 AM PDT
In reply to: well

Speeding is putting someones life at risk,parking tickets are not.

Obviously i can not cover every base,every situation that might arise or every situation that is.I was using parking ticket as an analogy,not to be taken as gospel.

Point being,someone who gets a ticket shoud not be treatd the same as someone who commits a violent act,and thrown in a cage.There is a difference between,and therefore should be treated differently.

I do not equate someone who puts a knive to ones throat and someone who gets a parking ticket(parking ticket is only an analogy)that they should both be put into the same cage,thats insane.

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so if you ignore parking tickets
by Mark5019 / May 3, 2006 6:55 AM PDT
In reply to: No,i'm not saying that

i guess its ok to ignore parking in a handicapped zone?
laws are equal.

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(NT) (NT) Again,parking tickets is an analogy
by tomron / May 3, 2006 7:43 AM PDT
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That attitude is unfortunately
by TONI H / May 3, 2006 1:39 AM PDT

what's happened to our country....molly coddle the 'minor' infractions and eventually you molly coddle all of them. The law is the law is the law and if you break it, you deserve whatever you get.

I have broken a few of them myself and understand the consequences if I had gotten caught....I would not have whined and tried to find a way out by stating it was just a 'minor' one. I don't believe that antiquated laws should be kept on the books as a 'gotcha'; however, I do believe that if you are knowingly breaking a law and get caught doing so that you should be immune to whatever the law states you should get for punishment.

If that means you have to work on a chain gang because you didn't pay a parking ticket, tuff....next time, you'll pay it or not get the ticket in the first place. Breaking the laws of this country is like cheating on your spouse.....you know ahead of time that you are running a risk and if you are willing to take that risk, then be willing to pay the price when you get caught at it.


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btw toni
by Mark5019 / May 3, 2006 1:51 AM PDT

your use of caps will infuriate some here:)

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