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Rant

Why is every phone manufacturer so obsessed of copying Apple

Jul 26, 2018 3:57PM PDT

Lately, phones have started to look all more alike. And not a normal XZ1 Compact design, but an iPhone X design. And more than all, everyone is removing the headphone jack without one good reason for doing so. I mean, just look around people, can't you see most of us are still using that 3.5mm jack for something? It's not obsolete yet! It's not at all like the CD-ROM in 1990, not at all! In 1990, there was the DVD-ROM, and was priced accessibly for almost everyone. And, better yet, it was practical: it used the same IDE P-ATA connector (and later S-ATA) for data transfers and molex connector (later S-ATA power connector) for power as the CD-ROM. Wireless headphones are <b> not </b> a pactical solution! Bluetooth is still very unstable at times and can get very frustrating to connect a bluetooth headset to a phone, rather than just plugging in a cable in a phone and be done. Not to mention the quality is much worse than wired.

And we're doing this only “to make the display larger in a smaller form factor”, by those means, for some material purpose. Is it worth the looks, which BTW, some like, some don't, over that extra functionality that all of us used at some point or another? I'm asking y'all, is it?

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Sort of why I bought a phone with headphone jack and
Jul 26, 2018 4:30PM PDT

Nice storage. It wasn't as expensive as an Apple X.

But given we run Apple iOS apps I just upgraded (?) from my old trusty iPhone 5s to a 6.

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I hope you don't use iOS 11 on that 6
Jul 27, 2018 12:57AM PDT

Because that actually makes it run slower than the iPhone 5S. But I suppose you already know that, you're much more advanced than I am in tech and electronics.

Well, I still have a headphone jack phone, that being a Sony Xperia XZ1 Compact, but that's not the only issue. The issue is: notches and "beards" everywhere. Why a notch? Why not just nake that display as close to the margins as possible and be dome with it? No headphone jack removal, no notch.

And for the manufacturers that remove headphone jacks without making a bigger display in a smaller phone (Sony), I hope nobody buys your phones no more.

But the thing that bothers me is the following: now that Sony came up with "a new desogn" and removed the headphone jack, people seem to like it. What was wrong with the older design where:

1. We had a fingerprint sensor in the power/sleep button and because it wad placed like this it was easily accessible

2. We could place the phone on any surface and it wouldn't "stand up, walk and fall" because it behaves like a ball

3. It was actually more seemless that the new one, because the new one has visible antenna bands, while the other design didn't have or had, but they were hidden. On top of that, the SIM and SD Card tray is so visible on the new 'and improved' design that it looks like it's some kind of protection that comes from the factory that is waiting to be removed.

And yes, I know, soke people wil come here and say "We got it, you hate the new design, but you must understand, this is evolution". Well, then, for those people, I will ask you this: does evolution need involution? To evolve, do we need to remove a widely used port? To evolve, do we need to copy someone at almost everything? To evolve, do we need to remove all the ports on a portable device to make it "more portable"?

People! What's portable is portable! You can't make something more portable by removing 'wanted' things! You need to either remove 'unwanted' things, either include more 'wanted' things! What's too much is never good! Wake up, people, please!

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Have to disagree about the iOS version.
Jul 27, 2018 8:33AM PDT

It's at the latest (today is 11.4.1) and it zips right along.

I can guess why some folk have troubles. Maybe that battery issue? I'm a bit of a tech head so my old 5s got a new battery last year. Both have "battery cases" so I can go about a week on a charge.

All that aside my advice is simple.

Vote with your wallet.

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I don't know what you mean by "battery issue"
Jul 27, 2018 3:26PM PDT

But I assume you're talking about that huge scandal earlier this year about bad performance becaise of the battery throttling. No, the iPhone 5S, 6 and 6+ didn't get that "feature", so no, slowdowns only come from iOS. And OS 11 is slower than OS 10. You'll see the slowness of iOS 11 when you update to OS 12. Even the betas are faster than iOS 11's releases.

But let's go back to our subject, we're talking about hardware removal and bad design here.

From what I can see, you didn't understand one thing: I'm not looking for a new phone right now, I had just bought myself an Xperia XZ1 Compact one month ago. But I wish I had bought the XZ2 Compact if it wasn't for the headphone jack removal and a design that is meant to make your phone fall off the table. And, in four years from now on, when I will be looking for a new phone, because a SnapDragon 835 isn't going to be a lot in those days, what phone am I going to buy if we're slowly removing all the ports and buttons on a phone?

I never use my smartphones as I get them from the factory. I mod them, unlock the bootloader, install custom ROMs, mod the ROM, this kind of stuff. If I won't have hardware buttons to enter fastboot, I'll have to wait for hardware exploits to come out for Android devices, just like on iOS devices, which will take a lot of time to be developed. But with hardware buttons and charging port, I can do what a hardware exploit would have done by myself. Also, how am I going to listen to High Quality music NOW, not after the music file is transferred to a pair of BlueTooth headset, which takes time to get connected to the phone and has batteries inside?

I'm sorry if I annoy you, Proffit, you don't have to answer, all I'm asking is to understand my issue here. My issue is what the phone industry is becoming, not what it is. For now, the Xperia XZ1 Compact is still a part of the market, coming with a rare side-mounted fingerprint scanner, headphone jack and excellent and small enough screen. Cameras are just great, I really don't need anymore than what this phone can give me, for now that is. In 4 years from now on, I suppose I will want better performance alongside the same features this device had, that is full control over it and a headphone jack.

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No problem.
Jul 27, 2018 3:42PM PDT

Here all is well with the iPhones I carry and at the office. The only slowdown we had was that battery story (in the news) and we knew about it and never had it happen because we can replace batteries when they are old. It's cheap too. The last one I replaced was 17 dollars to my mail box for the iPhone 5s.

You may wonder why I carry both. It's job related as we work on apps for both Apple and Android.

It appears you have a nice phone. Here we do fine with the stock issue of Apple and Android phones. If there is a slowdown on iOS it must not be enough for me to notice.

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"Work on apps" means programming, I suppose?
Jul 27, 2018 11:56PM PDT

If that's the case, you only use the iPhones outside of the SpringBoard (the iPhone Home Screen and GUI). Usually, that's what is slown down. Other apps rarely slow down to a visible point, so yeah, if that's the case, then you're good for, in my opinion, another 2 years with those phones.

I want to point out something, though: when I bought my Xperia, I used to own an iPhone 5S on iOS 10.3.1. And I replaced it after two years of use. I don't think that's a lot of time for a phone to be used, but that happened because of the YouTube app and its sluggish interface on iOS devices. I use YouTube every day for ≈30 minutes to an hour.

Every time I was looking at people with Android devices with slower processors (sometimes even less RAM) and had YouTube running better than my 5S, I was looking at them amazed. Until I realized: my old Huawei Ascend Y530 used to run YouTube well too, but that couldn't even be considered a smartphone at how bad that ran in the OS. And that's when I realized any Android device I woukd buy, the Google apps and services will run better because they want iOS users to go to Android and also want to prevent vice-versa from happening.

But considering I also wanted a good front camera, better battery and a good enough device to be able to play beta Asphalt 9 and I came to this Xperia.

Anyway, for now, let's hope LG won't stop producing that "great audio" line of phone, because, even if I really like compact phones and LG's phones are anything but compact, I will have to buy one of those, as I use the headphone jack daily

Also, something I noticed just now, Android's copy&paste engine is much better than iOS' and also scrolling through written text is actually *possible* on Android, while on iOS was almost impossible,as it tried to scroll through both the written text and the page.

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Yes. I'm one of those programmers.
Jul 29, 2018 8:13AM PDT

I also use what you call the springboard and it's zippy enough I never give it much thought.

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(NT) Actually, that's how Apple calls jt
Jul 29, 2018 10:32PM PDT
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Actually, that's how Apple calls it
Jul 29, 2018 10:37PM PDT

If you take a look in iOS' file system, in /System/Library/CoreServices/, there is a folder called /SpringBoard.app/. That's what the interface app is called.

I had my iPhone 5S jailbroken and that's how I know the name of it.

Also, soory for the previous empty post.