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Why is Bush's cabinate quitting?

by Rick S / November 15, 2004 12:26 AM PST
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Yeah I know I spelled that wrong
by Rick S / November 15, 2004 12:28 AM PST

I have to quit multitasking

Cabinet

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Re: Why is Bush's cabinate quitting?
by TONI H / November 15, 2004 12:33 AM PST

As for Powell, I would suspect future political aspirations and a much needed rest ahead of time to prepare for a possible run for the Presidency or VP spot.

For the others, I would think, in my own opinion, to garner people who are better at stablizing and improving the economy, education, etc. by getting people who might have a good raport with the legislative ends to get things done?

TONI

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Re: Why is Bush's cabinate quitting?
by John Robie / November 15, 2004 2:16 AM PST

Yep, and also Powell has indicated in the distant past that he would not run, but I think he now believes it looks good for him to run, since only Hillary, so far, is in his way.

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Re: Why is Bush's cabinate quitting?
by Dave Konkel [Moderator] / November 15, 2004 2:30 AM PST

Hi, Toni.

I doubt Poweel has political aspirations -- he could have had the VP or even presidential nomination before this had he wanted it, but his wife fears he'd be assassinated if he even ran. I think he's tired of the sleaze factor, feels used in that UN speech, and just can't take the constant wrangling with Rumsfeld and the other hawks (dare I say "chicken hawks?")

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Re: Why is Bush's cabinate quitting?
by Angeline Booher / November 15, 2004 12:38 AM PST

It's a common practice. During his first term the President has had fewer cabinet changes than usual, There hasn't been a slew of meaningful actions these past 4 years.

I sure do hate to see Colin Powell go! He could have made a difference had his opinion been given more attention.

Angeline
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Re: Why is Bush's cabinate quitting?
by Josh K / November 15, 2004 12:41 AM PST
He could have made a difference had his opinion been given more attention.

That was his problem, of course. He made too much sense and he had a conscience. I wish him well.

That aside, cabinet changes aren't uncommon when a President is reelected. I wouldn't read too much into most of them.
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Re: Why is Bush's cabinate quitting?
by EdH / November 15, 2004 12:44 AM PST

Powell long ago expressed his wishes to be out of the picture and spend time with family. And, as you say, it's pretty standard practice. I think some Presidents have asked for resignation letters from all Cabinet members in advance.

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Re: Why is Bush's cabinate quitting?
by Josh K / November 15, 2004 1:00 AM PST
I think some Presidents have asked for resignation letters from all Cabinet members in advance.

I think that's pretty standard practice. They all resign and then the ones who are going to stay get rehired.
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Re: Why is Bush's cabinate quitting?
by Dan McC / November 15, 2004 5:58 AM PST

Granted that some turnover was expected, this is a pretty rapid fleeing of the scene.

Dan

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If you believe TV shows
by Roger NC / November 15, 2004 6:43 AM PST

it certainly is according to The West Wing

I don't watch it much anymore (heck, hardly have time for Stargate SG even lately, chuckling). But I do remember in a one show when Barlett was re-elected, his chief of staff was finishing up the morning meeting with the White House personnel (not the cabinet, white house office heads I think) and as left the room reminded them he expected all their "resignations" on his desk before they went home.

In the hallway it was explained that it was normal to allow the President to avoid the necessity of firing anyone he had decided to replace.

And let's face it, a president running for election wouldn't be changing his staff if avoidable till after the election. It would indicate less than perfect satisfaction with the way things are going.

RogerNC

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Re: If you believe TV shows
by Dan McC / November 15, 2004 6:58 AM PST

That's a darned good show.

It was the cabinet meeting in the episode you're thinking of.

Dan

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Re: If you believe TV shows
by Roger NC / November 15, 2004 7:01 AM PST

it was the Cabinet? ok, thought it was the office heads, been a while.

I watched it for a while, but after 3 seasons I sort of lost touch with it, and it doesn't draw me much anymore.

And yes, Stargate SG is a damn good show. Devil

RogerNC

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PS. ok ok, I know you meant West Wing.

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No big deal..........
by Mac McMullen / November 15, 2004 4:04 AM PST

I'm not one to make too much of cabinet changes as they are common
practice upon re-election of a president. particularly this cabinet that
has seen little change in the past four years.

Cabinet members are prime candidates for lucrative positions in the
private sector.

I think I recall someone asking President Bush if he asked for letters
of resignation, during his news conference last week, and he said No.

Ashcroft has admitted to fatigue following his surgery earlier in the
year. Add to the fact that he is the son and grandson of Ministers,
and the fact that the President has taken a lot of criticism regarding
his own religious leanings, I wouldn't be surprised if this didn't enter
into part of it, although I would prefer to believe President Bush would
honor, without challenge, any tendered resignation.

Evans' family had earlier moved back to Texas, and he stated he
wanted to spend more time with his family.

In any event, IMO, the posts of Commerce, Education, Energy and
Agriculture, are not, and generally have never been high profile in the
eyes of the public.

I look for many more departures in many cabinet departments on the
part of deputies and other appointees. Opportunities exist in more
abundance coming from an active tenure than from a lame duck administration.

If the President was looking for candidates for additional resignations,
all he has to do is ask. I could give him a list from State; National Security;
Defense; Transportation; and Treasury without much further thought. Wink

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(NT) (NT) Ms. C. Rice to replace Powell
by John Robie / November 15, 2004 6:35 AM PST

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