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Why does Apple need my Social Security number to buy iPhone?

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"The Apple Retail Store is the perfect place to get your iPhone 3G. When you arrive, a Concierge in an orange shirt will direct you to the iPhone bay where you can take advantage of our free Personal Setup. A Specialist will help you choose an iPhone 3G, review coverage maps, select a rate plan, and ? best of all ? have your new iPhone 3G ready to make calls, browse the web, and receive email right on the spot.

What to bring.
To purchase and activate iPhone 3G, you need the following:*

Credit card
Social security number
Valid, government-issued photo ID
Your current wireless account number and password or PIN (if you?re new to AT&T)"


Why in Heavens name does Apple need my social security number?
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It makes the government's easedropping work easier.

In reply to: Why does Apple need my Social Security number to buy iPhone?

If you are concerned about such privacy then don't use a cell phone. And try to buy that product with legal tender.
Bob

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PS. Just so you know.

In reply to: It makes the government's easedropping work easier.

http://ssa-custhelp.ssa.gov/cgi-bin/ssa.cfg/php/enduser/std_adp.php?p_faqid=78 tells more about this.

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Re; Apple and SS#

To be honest, it has been such a long time since I set up a cell phone account (I've been with Cingular/ATT forever) that I wouldn't remember if it was standard operating procedure to hand over your social when setting it up.

And I wouldn't be concerned that Apple would do anything necessarily untoward with my identity, but any time you hand over the social security number there is the risk that some third party will gain access to it.


Rescale my alarm to "Moderate"

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if you are a current customer

In reply to: Re; Apple and SS#

Maybe you won't have to? But I guess be prepared to give it anyway if you really want it.

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I guess not

In reply to: if you are a current customer

That blows. But I can't remember if I had to provide one the last time I got a new phone.

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you always have to provide a SSN when you are new

In reply to: I guess not

to the carrier. This is nothing new. I guess you can refuse to give up the info if it really bothers you but I doubt you'd be able to sign up for any new carrier without it either (or get insurance, or taker out a home or car loan, etc). You can object but then you're be stuck in prepaidland with crappy pricing. Liek it or not, being judged by our credit history a part of the bold new world in which we live.

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I've been on the same carrier for 12 years

In reply to: you always have to provide a SSN when you are new

Not AT&T though. But it looks like you need it for the iPhone whether or not you're an existing customer (nah, I won't be getting one...I'm not dropping my carrier, but I'm rethinking that for when my contract is up). Some employers even check credit histories of applicants, which I can understand for certain occupations.

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You're correct but...

In reply to: you always have to provide a SSN when you are new

it does still beg the question of why do they get to use your SS# to ID you for the credit report? As the earlier link showed, the # was specifically to never be used as a general ID# but too few people complained for too many years. Everyone else just kept giving out their numbers whenever anyone asked and now it's a fait accompli. No one forsaw the incredible access that the Internet would give everyone, but that's just icing now.

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Why does Apple need my Social Security number to buy iPhone?

In reply to: Why does Apple need my Social Security number to buy iPhone?

To do a credit check on you. You don't know need to be so paranoid at all that is the reason why.

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Steve Jobs can track you

In reply to: Why does Apple need my Social Security number to buy iPhone?

ss# just make it easier for Jobs and company to track you, same with demanding ID and a CC purchase. I have an ATT account and they never asked for my cc or ss# when I signed it. bTW, I brought my own phone to the AT&T party.

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