Who decided that we now call Orientals, Asians?

They have a color called black and there are black people, so why not a flesh color for "white" people? I think the "flesh" color name was changed to "peach". Draw a girl from Georgia and she'll truly be a "peach" of a gal.

Maybe we spend too much time trying to find faults with our ancestors or ancestry in general and maybe in an attempt to correct what was never broken in the first place. What some might see as historical flaws, others will see as a rich patina that adds character.... which we should cherish rather than cover up.

as a complainer, but I do have opinions. Typically, something like this would not be an issue with me at all, but I got slammed twice last week for not being PC and the person the alleged PC-ness originated with seems to think that a law degree in its self constitutes correctness. lol I've enjoyed the debate and it's interesting to witness so many jumping becaused something is now being termed as PC. It doesn't seem to matter to them that the term is actually incorrect. I also asked a Russian friend of mine how he felt and he thinks its arrogance on their part. But, that's just his opinion, too. I'm not sure the Canadians object to our refering to ourselves as simply Americans, but they would have the right to object as would Mexico.

from the ukraine? moldavia? they're all russians

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Ukrainians are Ukranians, not Russians. Many would be insulted to be called Russian.

The problem with this whole thing is that Asia has lots of different ethnic groups in it. If you specifically mean someone of Chinese/Japanese/Korean ethnicity (which used to be called Oriental) what do you call them to distinguish them for other groups?

The problem with this whole thing is that russia has(d) lots of different ethnic groups in it. If you specifically mean someone of ukranian/moldavian/whatever ethnicity (which used to be called russian) what do you call them to distinguish them for other groups?

personally, i call them russians.... as for asians, the only only time i see/hear the word is when "a gang of asian youths etc etc"

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I think it's a nationality, as Ukrainian is. So if you are calling them Russians it's just inaccurate. Like calling an Irishman English.

all of the 'ethnic' groups were "russians".....

today i still call them that, probably because i'm too lazy to get a map with the new countries listed

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to someone that is NOT a Russian.

your post states that Asia has lots of different ethnic groups in it. If you specifically mean someone of Chinese/Japanese/Korean ethnicity.......

i always thought that China/Japan/Korea were countries and therefore people from those countries would be Chinese/Japanese/Korean?


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An ethnic group or ethnicity is a population of human beings whose members identify with each other, either on the basis of a presumed common genealogy or ancestry[1], or recognition by others as a distinct group[2], or by common cultural, linguistic, religious, or territorial traits.[1] Processes that result in the emergence of such identification are summarized as ethnogenesis.

The term is used in contrast to race, which refers to a classification of physical and genetic traits perceived as common to certain groups.[2]

but a person from China is racially/genetically/ethnically very similar to a person from Korea, as opposed to another "Asian" from Kazakhstan or Belorus, say. In fact he may be more similar to a Native American than to some other "Asians"

under the Soviets would disagree. Just one egregious example:
Stalin was a Georgian, which country had ancient enmities with the Ukraine. During his worst period he gave special attention to the Ukraine, inducing famine and pestilence. He killed more Ukrainians than Hitler killed Jews, and just as deliberately. That "Union" of Soviet Socialist "Republics" was almost as phony as the old Yugoslavia. Stalinist hatreds are still affecting politics in that area.

as a famous 'israeli' once said "i only become a 'jew' when i travel outside israel"

as far as i'm concerned, there are 250,000,000 'americans' in the USA, and 200,000,000 'russians' in russia....

if i meet them somewhere, they become 'texans' or 'ukranians'

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state Prosecutor vs. Russian [Moscow] gov't indicates their feelings are otherwise.

a wonderful way with words Haniger and I am sure that you can dig yourself out of that last comment with the greatest of ease.

To the good people of the world, I always want to say good things about them.

it should be Josh and not Jonah even though he may agree too.

I can see many advantages. I am offended by the inaccurate term "white".

you're from the wrong side of the mountains.

of the mountains?

Terry said I should be called what I want to be called.

I want to be called Togo, Lord of the Monkeys

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Are you making assumptions about my race and name? Isn't my name "black" enough?

LOTM?

I'd prefer to call people their names! But if I HAVE to describe the person for some reason (never really had to do that! ALways referred to the person by name and character or personality) I will describe the person as he/she wants to be described.

As long as we continue to differentiate human beings because of the shape of their eyes, color of skin or size of their feet, we're going to have a society full of us vs. them. Obviously there are those who benefit in one way or the other from having a society where there are them and us.

My opinion is that there are more similarities than differencies between us all. We all have two eyes. We all have two arms. Two feet. Two ears. One head. Nails. Etc. We all need to eat. Drink. Urinate. Poop. Have sex (in one way or the other). We are all very much aloke. There are more things that unite us than there are separating us and I prefer focusing on the similarities rather than differencies.

(The above statements about our similarities are based on the fact that the normal way of being born is to be born with these things in common. I am aware of the fact that there are people being born without some important body parts, but that's not the norm but the exception.)