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who agrees?????

by mikehunt / October 9, 2005 4:34 PM PDT

Hi there i can't seem to get into the review sections for products that I've
tried , so i am writing this in the hope that it can be passed on to the
relevant section.
Tonight i have tried out 4 different registry fixers and i have been left
quite bemused by it all.
Firstly i ran my Norton system works disc and it found 4 errors in my
registry, i then tried out, registry doctor, only to be told i have over 180
errors in my registry but would have to purchase the product to have them
fixed, i then tried out registryfix v3 , which told me i had about 174
errors in my registry, but it stopped halfway thru the scan, so the true
number of errors from their scan is unknown, however they did allow me to
fix up to 6 errors i think, then i tried windows registry repair pro, which
found 154 errors with its scan, and allowed 30 to be fixed at a time, so i
found that if i reloaded it immediately after fixing the previous errors it
would fix another amount 3 at a time so i did this until it scans showed my
registry was error free, i then ran free registry fix, which after its scan
showed my registry having 174 errors, this is after running the previous 4
including norton windoc, how can this be, as the scan directly prior to this
said they were all fixed, so anyway i moved along and it allowed 50 to be
fixed, so i did that then uninstalled it and ran it again, it should have
told me i had 124 errors, but to my amazement, i had 138 so i used the 50
free fixes again, then did it all over again, only the next time it only
allowed me to fix for free 10 so i did that, then i did it again.and it only
allowed me to fix 10 again...are you adding this up?120 so far from the
original 124..but it still told me i had 18 more, until finally after 3 more
scans it came down to 2 errors remaining and urged me to buy the
product..they must be joking, it said it would fix 1 only, for free so i did
that, then ran it again , this time it said i had 3 errors and would remove
1 of them, i did this for another 4 scans before i gave up, it continually
showed that i had 3 errors even after it said it would fix one of them, i
hope your seeing my point, which is, are these scans for real? and as i
haven't noticed any marked improvement in my system i can only assume that
all of these programs are bogus to some extent, and i apologise for
insulting your sponsors but lets face it,how can one product tell me i have
no errors then another says i have 174? then fixes 172 of them without my
system running any better, its either like this:the one that said i was
error free is crap, or the one that said i had 174 errors fabricated the
results to make its product look good..or both, i buy products from your
site on your recommendations many times over the years but this is one
product i am so unsure about and suspicious i feel further investigating
needs to be done.
thanks for your time.

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Re: registry errors
by Kees Bakker / October 9, 2005 8:11 PM PDT
In reply to: who agrees?????

One simple advice: don't clean the registry in Windows XP, unless it's the only way to solve problems that are otherwise unsolvable.

There is no clear definition of 'registry error'. So every program has its own rules, which explains differences between them. If the rules are reasonable or not can only be judged by inspecting what they remove, not by simply counting how much they remove.
And you don't write anything about that.

My definition for the moment: a registry error is something in the registry causing errors running Windows or an application. And that can only be judged when you run such, not by having a look at the registry alone. This might not be fully true, but it's good enough for the purpose.

Kees

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Registry repair
by sabyasachi_lawyer / October 21, 2005 2:53 AM PDT
In reply to: who agrees?????

Try 'Windows Registry Repair SE'. It works very well with WINDOWS XP. But I think u'd better re-install u'r O.S. & format u'r partitions once first.

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Registry repair, real or scam?
by Charlesrod / October 24, 2005 1:01 PM PDT
In reply to: Registry repair

I have tried RegistryFix v. 3.0 and Registry Mechanic with essentially the same results as Mikehunt, although I wasn't as thorough before I gave up trying to determine if these programs really do what they say they do. It's all very confusing. Can anyone out there tell me if any of these programs are worth what they cost or is it all just a big scam? I am not looking for philosophical musings; I need to know unequivocally how to clean up my computer before I spend any money to do so.
Thanks.

Charlesrod

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Registry repair
by The Fly / October 31, 2005 8:50 PM PST

I would not trust any program to blindly change my registry. I consider these programs only a way to identify possible errors that I have to determine whether or not those are true errors and then I will decide if the fix they suggest is valid before I would let it actually do anything to the file(s).

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Who agrees???
by Henry Williams / October 31, 2005 1:26 PM PST
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Registry Cleaners (valid or invalid) that is the question:

I ran across the same scam with several registry cleaners. After tracing a few of the so-called 147 invalid files, I noted that the files were valid and the manufacture would add a character at the end of there file. It goes something like this. HKEY_CURRENT USER Software etc. etc. percentage sign1. In other words there was not anything wrong with the file in the first place and the program is inserting or in some cases, looking for a character that should not be in the file in the first place. I have Norton and utilize freeware RegSeeker. I run the Norton performance test. That is in the Norton System Utilities. All is well. I agree there should be an investigation and benchmark what product is legit. Well enough said on that I am not going to go nuts over a microsecond.

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Just my thoughts
by nodakpaul57 / November 2, 2005 9:22 AM PST
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I've come to the conclusion that, if it ain't broke, don't fix it! I only run a couple of spyware detection programs along with AVG antivirus and as long as my computer is humming along I'm not going to go fooling around in the registry, no matter how many "errors" the registry cleaners say I have. There are so many programs out there that will tell you your computer is broken unless you use their software to "fix" it, although you are using it just fine.

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I don't completely agree.
by PKsteven / November 2, 2005 10:50 AM PST
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I can say this, many registry editors will differ in many ways and you aren't really being scammed.
Some will consider files (bad) and need repairing or removing that may not be any harm, while others may find actual files that need to be fixed but still consider other files bad. Then there are some that find needed files and usually warn against this but will delete needed files, along with actual bad files and ones that aren't considered bad by some. Follow so far? So, for some, yes they claim a certain number of safe files, ones that cause no harm and don't need to be removed to try and out-do the other guy. While most of the top cleaners do this, usually they still get rid of\fix bad files. So, in short, they aren't scams but use different types of files that can be detected and rid of without harming the system to make their software look good.
I have tried as many reg cleaners\fixers as possible and the only two I trust, one is included in Vcom Fix -it utilites, which does a wonderful job on the registry and you can actually tell the difference. Along with all that, it has (excellent) Anti virus, reg defrag, backup, and darn near everything you can think of included. I don't put a plug for this and I don't work for them but I simply say this is one of the only all in one tools that actually do what it's supposed to. 6 years, two upgrades only and no problems. The anti spyware on the new ver.6 works great, finds everything ad aware can and in less than a minute.
The other is Ccleaner. It's a free little app that erases history tracks, has a great little reg fixer that allows you to backup before cleaning. There is a new version but now they want $ so I stay with the old one. It's not that I mind buying something but it's not that worthy in my eyes, the free version works great anyway.
So, to be honest, I have not been impressed by any of the top reg cleaners and have never used them again. The one in Vcom, really sorts it out and allows me to manually go through and get rid of things if I want but is also auto.
over and out Paul

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Finally!! Something that makes sense.
by Minor Tron God / November 4, 2005 6:27 AM PST

Tracking this, I was starting to believe I knew less than what I know I don't know. I don't have a powerfull all in one utility for doing all the housekeeping and security needed to keep a system running smooth. What I have used on the Registry is a dizzying array of different programs, but only 2 stand out from the rest. 1 was a trial to buy, ACE Utilities by Ace Logix, and CCleaner free from download.com. They were the only ones that gave me the same results when tested in comparisons, needless to say which one I kept.

MTG

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WINDOWS REGISTRY REPAIR SE
by sabyasachi_lawyer / November 20, 2005 1:18 AM PST
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