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Whither now the Democrats?

I can only guess of how this one hurt. However, it's perfectly appropriate to ask the question I asked given that the present course just isn't working for the Dems. I found this piece in the San Francisco Chronicle almost a month ago, and promptly forgot about it until today when I was cleaning out all my 2004 election bookmarks. The piece, I believe, gives us a look at what we can expect from the Democrats in the days to come; a continued slide into political irrelevance:

Fights over a political party's future are common after the party loses a big election. But John Kerry figures to face a fight over control of the party from fellow Democrats even if he beats George W. Bush on Nov. 2.

Influential figures on the party's left wing are planning a long-term campaign to move the Democrats to the left, just as right-wing activists took over the Republican Party and moved it to the right over the past 30 years.

If the left's campaign is successful, it could transform the political landscape of the United States, changing the terms of debate and bringing dramatically different policies on local, national and international issues.

After George McGovern's landslide loss to Richard Nixon in 1972, some centrist Democrats argued that Democrats had become too liberal to win national elections.

The accusation was repeated after Michael Dukakis' lopsided loss to George Bush in 1988. Leading the charge was the Democratic Leadership Council, a group of centrist Democrats who subsequently pushed the party rightward on crime, economics and foreign policy during the presidency of Bill Clinton, himself a council supporter.

Now, leftist Democrats are planning to challenge the centrists' control. The leftists argue that many Democrats, especially the party establishment in Washington, have become too much like Republicans and too afraid to stand up to right-wingers like George W. Bush.

There's only one problem with this analogy as I see it: If the Republicans were successful under Ronald Reagan and his heirs to move their party to the right, it was primarily because enough Americans were suppportive of the move to make it a success at the ballot box. Does anyone really see a similar groundswell in favor of a sharp leftward move by the Democrats? Can anyone see this being an electoral winner?

"We're going to celebrate with John Kerry the night of Nov. 2. But the morning of Nov. 3, we're going to start organizing to take the party away from him, because we have serious disagreements about what the party should stand for and where this country needs to go," said one activist at the "What We Stand For" conference, Bertha Lewis, co-chair of the Working Families Party in New York state and a leader in the grassroots antipoverty group, ACORN.

"In 2004, we have to elect anyone but Bush," said a veteran labor strategist working to link unions with other progressive groups. "But if we keep working and build on the lessons learned and the partnerships we're forging during this fight against Bush, we can elect somebody we really like four or eight years from now."

All this signals a historic shift in the American left's approach to national politics. In the past, left-wing groups and individuals would moan about a Democratic nominee's perceived deficiencies and defect to a protest candidate, such as Ralph Nader or Jesse Jackson.

By contrast, the Beat Bush Brigades are showing a new patience and maturity. They are working in the short term to elect a Democrat they see as imperfect in order to build their movement's strength over the long term.

Democrats like Zell Miller, who see clearly the self-built trap the party is falling into, will have a stark choice to make: They can stay with the sinking ship, keep fighting to prevent the Dems from self-destruction....or become Republicans!

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I feel really sorry for Kerry

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He's apparently wanted to be President and worked toward that end his whole life (not that I agree with how he went about it). Now not only did he lose, but to realize he was just a warm body the Dems stuck up there as a sacrifice has to really hurt.

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I feel sorry for him only because...

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...he's married to Teresa Heinz, who seems like a demanding, unloving, woman who seems more to tolerate Kerry as a husband than actually love him.

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I heard she once said that she'd give up all her money

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to get her husband back. The comment I heard about that was that it wasnt clear whether she was talking about Kerry or her first husband.

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By now Kerry would...

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...give all her money to have the other husband come back too!

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(NT) (NT) Let's not mock a widow's loss, please.

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Whither? Rejected by Americans, yuk yuk yuk!

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Paul, the leftists keep trying to find new deceptive ways to package leftism and foist it on the country by whatever dishonest means they can devise each and every day. Real Americans hate their guts (hey, what about Daschle and Kerry today? lol) but they don't get it and never will, which redounds to the benefit of real Americans.

They'll continue on the same way, because that's what leftists do. And they'll continue to slide into the deep end of the irrelevancy pool. Yuk yuk yuk!

I have no sympathy for them today or any other day. I'm just glad that their lies cost them power this time rather than gained it. Yuk yuk yuk!


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May I humbly suggest in the mean time...

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that y'all get on with it and quit governing by reactionaryism. The opposite of what us "leftists" believe, is not necessarily the best thing for the country.

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All reasoned thought is welcome

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And always will be. I'm glad to hear good ideas from anybody who has the time to speak their mind.

But TODAY I'm gloating and that's that, lol.


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Yeah? Well thank you (I guess) very much.

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Party on, Garth!


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Re: Yeah? Well thank you (I guess) very much.

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Oh I WILL, lol. Been stepped on for four years, one day isn't an excessive time of yukking it up.

Yuk yuk yuk!


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(NT) (NT) "Been stepped on for four years"??? Ahhh! Poor baby!

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Four years of daily "Republican this! / Bush that!" crap

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on the forum, EVERY steenkin day. But it helped us win. Unintentionally, but it helped, so it was worth it, lol.

Yuk yuk yuk!~


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Alright, Dave'O. Yuk yuk yuk!~ It's good to be King!

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You saying WE didn't take grief the last four years!?!

Yuk'a'dy Yuk-O' Unitifier!

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It's good for a day at least!

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I can only say what it's been like on this side of the fence, and that's how it looks from here.


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(NT) (NT) Enjoy your day, my friend.

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Thanks Bob

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I did enjoy yukking it up for a day, can't deny it. Tomorrow I'll go back to being a regular ahole instead of a top fuel one, lol.


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Religious right or angry right

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There is so much anger coming from the republicans,you'd almost think they lost.
I guess there's no such thing as a gracious winner...

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