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Which lens kit with 30D is better way to go?

I'm trying to decide between two of the pre-packaged camera kits offered just about everywhere which include either the 18-55mm lens or the 17mm-to-85mm lens. The price is a quite a bit higher for the 17-85 kit but I believe it also has IS with this lens. I plan on using the lens for most of my general day-to-day shots. Not sure if I need IS on this lens anyway. Which kit would be the better choice?
Thanks up front for any insight offered.

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The 17-85 lense is a much better lense.

In reply to: Which lens kit with 30D is better way to go?

That's why the price is higher. I've never been able to see the effect of the IS when using the lense, and would not buy it solely for that feature. You usually don't save much on the packages. If you check the body only, and lense prices at B&H Photo and Video or, you should see that the 'package' costs about what the seperate parts do. You might want to select a different lense, and get the body only for the 30D. I would get a good, or high quality Canon lense rather than third party. I think Canon lenses are worth the additional money. Be sure the lense you get has the USM feature.

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In reply to: Which lens kit with 30D is better way to go?

If you don't need IS and the extra tele, the 18-55 mm will be adequate for day to day general purpose use. IS is useful when slower shutter speed is used (eg. low light situation or some special effect). A tripod always works better than IS, but much less convenient. The 17-85 mm IS is a better lens than 18-55 mm. But if you do most of your photos in bright day light or use flash, you probably won't notice much difference in regular size prints. If you have unsteady hands or plan on taking photos on moving vehicle, the IS may help you get better shots. The best general purpose lens for the 30D however is the EF-S 17-55 mm f/2.8 IS.

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Thanks to you both, Kiddpeat and hjfok, for the insight. I'll probably just purchase the body and fret over which two or three lens to obtain for the majority of my use.

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