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Where are the "Human Rights" organizations...

by EdH / April 1, 2007 10:14 PM PDT

re: The British hostages in Iran? Haven't heard a peep.

Iran is violating the Geneva Conventions and as far as I know, no outside organization has been allowed to visit the captives. Where's the outrage?

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Haven't heard a peep.
by JP Bill / April 2, 2007 12:02 AM PDT

What's to hear?

Iran doesn't believe in human rights.

It's difficult to carry on discussions with a country that doesn't want to talk.

Bombing people, to bring them to the "human rights" table, doesn't seem right/practical.

Do you have any suggestions on how to rescue the hostages?

Do you have any suggestions on how to bring Human Rights to Iran?

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Shouldn't AI, and the rest...
by EdH / April 2, 2007 12:28 AM PDT
In reply to: Haven't heard a peep.

at least be condemning this? Putting more pressure on Iran? It seems very hypocritical of them to criticize the US and the West endlessly and not say a word about Iran.

Make me wonder if they are on the side of the terrorists.

Why is no one insisting that the Red Cross visit the hostages? They demanded this very loudly in the case of Gitmo. Next time they complain about the US bear in mind that they seem to be taking sides rather than really supporting human rights. Where's their credibility?

Do you have any suggestions on how to rescue the hostages?

Do you have any suggestions on how to bring Human Rights to Iran?


International public opinion could help. What's right is right. Are these groups doing what's right?

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Response
by JP Bill / April 2, 2007 12:48 AM PDT

Iran's actions were condemned, They don't care. (for now)

Criticism only works if the person/country being criticized cares. They don't. (for now)

Red Cross asked, they were told NO. End of that discussion.

I seem to recall the prisoners in Gitmo weren't seen by the Red Cross under the conditions the Red Cross wanted.


Human Rights groups can't physically "do anything", except report the facts and do what the parties permit.

The nations of the world will have to work together to make Iran "see the light"

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(NT) rather see iran see the cloud
by Mark5019 / April 2, 2007 12:54 AM PDT
In reply to: Response
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then
by JP Bill / April 2, 2007 6:15 AM PDT

you could pick through the body parts and rescue the British troops.

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duh no body
by Mark5019 / April 2, 2007 6:23 AM PDT
In reply to: then

parts be left and few die so many live better the "iaranins than us

unless you feel you can go rescues them bye bye call us when your back

ps dont loose your head over it Happy

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that's my point
by JP Bill / April 2, 2007 6:35 AM PDT
In reply to: duh no body

what if the few that die are the Brits that you are rescuing?

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but iran wont do that again
by Mark5019 / April 2, 2007 6:57 AM PDT
In reply to: that's my point

nor any other "muslum" country would make these country's who support terror think twice wouldnt it?

again few brits die for the the majority of those people whom support the bad people

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You really believe that?
by Terry Browne / April 2, 2007 1:19 PM PDT

Wasn't Reagan very tough? Isn't GW showing the world who rules and who's in charge? Has it helped? That's all I am asking, has it helped?

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regans dead but he did bring russia down
by Mark5019 / April 2, 2007 1:29 PM PDT

and the iranains did cave in and ?
if regan was in now iran would glow

and yes it has helped less of the fantical muslums alive

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Despite that...
by Terry Browne / April 2, 2007 1:46 PM PDT

Iran didn't think twice. And won't do it ever.

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and thats because they got lucky
by Mark5019 / April 2, 2007 2:26 PM PDT
In reply to: Despite that...

but ther luck might just go up in smoke

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(NT) This sub-thread is closed.
by Angeline Booher / April 3, 2007 12:29 AM PDT
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Response
by EdH / April 2, 2007 1:02 AM PDT
In reply to: Response
Iran's actions were condemned, by whom? Amnesty International? I don't think so. They don't care. (for now) I doubt that's true, but even if it is, so what? Just walk away and make no protest? Ha!

Red Cross asked, they were told NO. End of that discussion. When? I didn't hear that. But that is NO reason to say "end of discussion". It needs to be condemned loudly, if true.

I seem to recall the prisoners in Gitmo weren't seen by the Red Cross under the conditions the Red Cross wanted. Yet, they were allowed to see them., And they complained about that too. Why don't they complain about this?

The reason is that they are hypocrites. It's indefensible.
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Keep in mind as well...
by EdH / April 2, 2007 1:25 AM PDT
In reply to: Response

the government in Iran is not all that popular. There are many who oppose their policies, and I've heard it said that one of the reasons they may have done this is to stir up patriotic fervor and strengthen their support.

Also, the people who did tis are apparently just one faction of many amongst the "rulers". ANY and all condemnation and pointing out that they are violating International Law can only help to bolster the case of the opponents of the Revolutionary Guards.

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Is this the jurisdiction of human rights groups?
by grimgraphix / April 2, 2007 5:42 AM PDT

It may be, for all I know, part of Amnesty International's very mission statement to look after military personnel being held by a foreign government.... but the crux of the issue is... is this part of their mission?

I had thought that groups like A.I. were specifically targeted with publicly outing governments who held civilians or civilians who were not formally part of another countries military and/or intelligence services.

I take it from your statements so far that you Ed, believe that military or not, A.I. should be protesting?

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Their mission...
by EdH / April 2, 2007 6:01 AM PDT

is not specific to civilians.

http://web.amnesty.org/pages/aboutai-index-eng

I believe they have addressed the rights of soldiers of various kinds before. And when referring of Gitmo, these groups often cite the Geneva Conventions which are being violated here as well.

They should be doing the RIGHT THING. But, of course, they are NOT.

Wonder why?

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Well, if their mission covers official military prisoners...
by grimgraphix / April 2, 2007 6:05 AM PDT
In reply to: Their mission...

... then they should step up and speak out. Get together a petition and I will gladly sign it.

However, if that is what we demand of them now... then we should not complain later, when they turn their lens back on us.

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No fear of them doing the right thing any time soon...
by EdH / April 2, 2007 6:14 AM PDT

And we should complain about them any time we see fit, regardless of what they do in any one case. They don't get off the hook that easily.

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No sympathy (on your part)
by JP Bill / April 2, 2007 6:21 AM PDT

for people held for 5 years with no trial and AI complaining, and NOW you're complaining about AI NOT complaining?

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Sympathy for terrorists...
by EdH / April 2, 2007 6:23 AM PDT

who are being coddled? No thanks.

I'll leave that to you.

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(NT) terriosts have no rights
by Mark5019 / April 3, 2007 3:02 AM PDT
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(NT) ai is so biased its a joke
by Mark5019 / April 2, 2007 6:24 AM PDT
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RE: ai is biased
by JP Bill / April 2, 2007 6:45 AM PDT

and edH wants them to stand up for human rights?


Are you both on the same side?

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So, are you saying...
by EdH / April 2, 2007 11:35 PM PDT
In reply to: RE: ai is biased

that they can't stand up for Human Rights? Hmmm.

I think their philosophy is, "some humans have more rights than others."

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your right ed
by Mark5019 / April 2, 2007 11:36 PM PDT
In reply to: So, are you saying...

especially if there not american, israli

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I'm saying
by JP Bill / April 2, 2007 11:40 PM PDT
In reply to: So, are you saying...

YOU think some humans have more rights than others.

You're against people being oppressed by dictators, yet you have no problem with people being jailed, not being tried, not having a fair hearing.

kinda' like what a dictator does.

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Complete BS
by EdH / April 2, 2007 11:57 PM PDT
In reply to: I'm saying

The captives at Gitmo will be tried and their rights are being respected. Your attempt to paint me as a non-respecter of human rights is false and offensive...

You are defending the indefensible. Why?

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defending the indefensible
by JP Bill / April 3, 2007 12:05 AM PDT
In reply to: Complete BS

Musta' caught it from you.

The captives at Gitmo will be tried and their rights are being respected.

5 years later?

I don't want to offend you any more, so I'll leave you to talk to yourself.

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Poor babies!
by EdH / April 3, 2007 12:55 AM PDT
In reply to: Complete BS

A five year Caribbean vacation is what it is.

You have not managed to justify your defense of the indefensible. Wonder why you do it?

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