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When seeking employment by a government entity...

Sep 4, 2015 3:59AM PDT

...be it local, state or higher...be prepared to accept only the US government's code of conduct. Be aware that this code may change at any time and you must change with it. Whatever you do, do not link your personal code with that of an established religion as a reason for not adopting policy even if it wasn't an issue when you began your job. There is no guarantee of "grandfathering" when this happens. Failure to adapt to government changes in policy can and will result in a fine or imprisonment.

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Yes. The one concerning pharmacies and pharmacists
Sep 4, 2015 6:38AM PDT

was the beginning. The same conversations happened with OB/GYNs that didn't want to prescribe BC pills for other than regulation of the menstrual cycle. Then, it became private medical colleges that didn't want to teach other than therapeutic abortion procedures for reasons outside of being lifesaving for the mother. I don't know how far that one went. Of course the issues with Catholic hospital policies is too much to discuss here. There are just too many of them and such a great number that serve the rural and impoverished communities that the government could probably not absorb the costs if these institutions were driven out. But really, the death knell tolls for any institution that accepts or relies on government money. There is no partnership with government when this happens. They own you.

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that's different
Sep 4, 2015 7:13AM PDT

not every pharmacy carries exactly the same stock and it should be the govt's place to tell them what they must stock and sell or not. If you can't find the medicine you want at one pharmacy, then go to another.

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I think you meant "shouldn't" be the govt's job
Sep 4, 2015 7:22AM PDT

But liberals believe it should be.

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correct
Sep 4, 2015 7:42AM PDT

I also just saw some vile disgusting creatures leaving the office with their "marriage certificate" on Bloomberg. A righteous person in jail, the perverts rejoicing and clinging to each other like they can't wait to get home and engage in perversity with each other. What a disgusting country this is turning into. May their private parts start to rot off.

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The part that disturbs me most
Sep 4, 2015 8:43AM PDT

is the rejoicing for having been instrumental in putting the lady in jail. That hatred and vindictiveness has no good place in civilized societies and reminds me only of the celebratory gunfire we'd see when an American was captured and murdered in the streets of some middle eastern country. You got your wish, people. Now go home and give thanks.

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RE: hatred and vindictiveness
Sep 4, 2015 9:42PM PDT

such as?

some vile disgusting creatures

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No apology for telling the truth
Sep 5, 2015 8:05AM PDT

It's even a shame to have any need to speak of it.

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me neither
Sep 5, 2015 8:25AM PDT

post was hateful and vindictive.

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She is cherry picking the Bible
Sep 6, 2015 5:07PM PDT

She was married to husband 1 when she got pregnant by husband 3 with twins. She divorced husband 1 and marries husband 2 who adopted the twins. She divorce husband 2 to marry husband 3 (not sure if she slept with him again). She then divorced husband 3 and remarried husband 2.

I don't know anywhere in the Bible where adultery is okay or serial marriages.

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But we do know from scripture
Sep 7, 2015 2:03AM PDT

that's true penitence can come with forgiveness...that God's offer of forgiveness is almost limitless. It's man's offer of forgiveness that gets cherry picked. We often used the dumbest reasons to forgive or not forgive including that of political party and other affiliations.

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remember Lion King
Sep 8, 2015 4:39AM PDT

monkey slaps him and the cub gets mad and the monkey tells him, not to worry about it, because it's in the past. I think he slapped him again too, LOL.

The past makes a difference. God doesn't put his finger on the scale, but he does our deeds, whether bad or good. See Job and Daniel (about king of Bablyon found lacking)

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the past
Sep 8, 2015 4:53AM PDT
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So, she's crazy
Sep 8, 2015 4:33AM PDT

and hypocritical. That's her own "make believe Jesus" who tells her it's OK in her mind. One day she will meet the real one and oh what a shock for her then.

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What also disturbs me
Sep 4, 2015 9:45AM PDT

is that she's being held without bail,........Dohmer, Gacey, and DeSalvo, murders all, got bail.

Tell me again, liberals, how there is NOT a war on Christianity in this country?

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RE: Dohmer murders all, got bail.
Sep 4, 2015 10:06PM PDT

Dohmer

He was charged with exploitation of a child and second-degree assault.

Dahmer pleaded not guilty at his preliminary hearing and was freed on $2500 cash bail. Trial was set for May 1989

07/25/91

Dahmer is charged with four counts of homicide, as a result of the police search through his apartment. Dahmer admits that his crimes are wrong and declined to shift blame. His bail is set for 1 million dollars.


When he "made bail", he wasn't charged with murder.

Sure...he had "bail" ...so high $1M there is no way he could ever get the money to make bail./..SO....he's going to jail.

Would the clerk feel better if she had a $1Million bail set?

I didn't check the other names you and "the huckster" spouted...

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She has no bail amount set....so no choice there
Sep 5, 2015 2:45AM PDT
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I thought you were upset over "bail"
Sep 5, 2015 4:04AM PDT

or the lack of bail....NOT the crime.

AND I knew who those people were/are....just didn't want to bother to see what "the Huckster" was using as a bail reference.

HER solution is simple....will anyone care enough to do it?

The other members of the office she worked in are NOW passing out licenses....you figure it out.

I hope she has the conviction to stick to her guns and spends along time in jail, that'll show them.

Just heard she has opened up her own Ministry in the jail.

Pity the other prisoners. I hope THEY can get bail..

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I'm upset over the gays demanding
Sep 5, 2015 7:18AM PDT

what they know is the law in Kentucky that even if SHE doesn't issue the licenses, the other clerks MUST use HER signature on them.....which goes against HER religious rights. It doesn't matter that OTHERS are issuing the licenses.........HER name is on them all.

HER solution is to have her name removed and whoever wants to issue those licenses can continue to do so since the JUDGE said she didn't have to in order to accommodate her faith. Now it's up to Kentucky to accommodate her and everybody wins.

The fact that SHE is going against the Federal law and can't get bail screams of hypocricy when our own 'esteemed leader' can ignore Federal laws time and again and not even be criticized for it.

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RE: not even be criticized for it.
Sep 5, 2015 8:23AM PDT

Not even by you?

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How much publicity
Sep 5, 2015 8:47AM PDT

her HER story been covered by the liberal media vs BO's decision to not follow the laws as they are on the books? Is HER decision to ignore a law that isn't a law since SCOTUS doesn't have the authority to do it in the first place (like it did with Roe v Wade and with Obamacare rulings) and BO's decision to ignore ACTUAL laws?

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She wants her "name" removed from the certificate?
Sep 5, 2015 11:48AM PDT

Does she also want her "title" removed from the certificate?

Would she be willing to sign with an "X"?

I think "all she is doing when she signs a document" IS acknowledging receipt of the document by a government official.

NOT that she agrees with purpose of the document.

She does know how to make an "X"?

How bout a rubber stamp with her signature...would that be less painful?

Perhaps a robot that can duplicate her signature?

Will she take a cut in pay for not doing 100% of her duties?

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Divert and deflect.....
Sep 5, 2015 1:25PM PDT

no comment about the publicity, huh?

If her name is on the certificate/license, it makes the assumption that she condones the 'marriage'. Right now, her name is not being used on them and she's stated from jail that without it, according to KY laws, that makes the license void right off the bat and illegal.....but the clerk's office is pushing them through anyhow (breaking their own laws in doing so.....so should they all be jailed now, too?)

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RE: no comment about the publicity, huh?
Sep 5, 2015 7:32PM PDT

for what purpose?

it's never enough for one side and too much for the other side.

You don't like what the other side doesn't say about a subject?

If her name is on the certificate/license, it makes the assumption that she condones the 'marriage'.

I don't assume that....IF it was on an "oath" that she made...like the oath she took to uphold the statutes of Kentucky, Oh wait...she disregarded THAT oath that she took.

Just goes to show what her "signature" means.

AND who/what human being should care IF she condones or doesn't condone same sex marriage (other than her). She's paid to scribble her name on a scrap of paper. That's what she could do...make her signature so illegible that even her maker couldn't tell if it was her that signed it. Most signatures on documents alread

When she croaks she doesn't answer to any human being, as far as she is concerned.

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Your argument falls flat
Sep 6, 2015 4:40AM PDT

"IF it was on an "oath" that she made...like the oath she took to uphold the statutes of Kentucky" when it comes to the oath that BO took to ALSO uphold the statutes of the entire COUNTRY and ignores ones HE doesn't agree with.

Try again.........can't have it both ways.

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RE: BO
Sep 6, 2015 5:15AM PDT

Divert and Deflect as you are known to say...start another thread.

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There's no diversion or deflection going on....it's the SAME
Sep 6, 2015 6:01AM PDT

issue regarding ignoring 'laws on the books', JP.....IF ONE CAN DO IT, SO CAN THE REST OF THE COUNTRY....or don't you believe that?

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RE: IF ONE CAN DO IT, SO CAN THE REST OF THE COUNTRY.
Sep 6, 2015 7:51AM PDT
IF ONE CAN DO IT, SO CAN THE REST OF THE COUNTRY.

ONE what/who can do WHAT?

Disregard the law?

She's in jail for "contempt of court"...The court told her to do something...she said no...she's in jail.

Got any examples of the rest of the country showing"contempt of court"?

THAT's what this whole mess is about...her disobeying a court order....... Contempt of court.

WHY she thinks she should disobey a "court order" is another matter.

Just as you think for the universe to unfold as it should, by going though a recall/impeachment of her for her actions....She should sign the papers and take other actions to get what she wants (get the law repealed) through the proper channels.

Follow the law until it isn't the law.
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And here is where you fall on your face........
Sep 6, 2015 8:32AM PDT

"Follow the law until it isn't the law."

THERE WAS NEVER A LAW ON THE BOOKS UNTIL SCOTUS CREATED IT.........AND IT'S NOT THEIR AUTHORITY TO DO SO.

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RE: IF ONE CAN DO IT,
Sep 6, 2015 8:22PM PDT

Then start another thread about "the other one" (Obama)

You want to talk about Obama?...start another thread ABOUT OBAMA...Want to talk about inequality?....Start a thread about inequality.

Try and stay on Davis and her being in jail.

I start threads about Trump ...why don't you start threads about Obama?

Obama this, Obama that, Trump this, Trump that.

See how it is supposed to work?

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It wasn't that long ago that
Sep 6, 2015 5:17PM PDT

a man and woman of two different races couldn't marry. SCOTUS overthrew that one as well.

A lot of states didn't allow mixed marriages just like they don't allow same sex marriages. SCOTUS overthrew those laws.

One thing I've noticed is that there are thousands of counties in this country and this is the only county we hear about refusing to issue marriage licenses.