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See my reply to you about this topic

when you posted in the 'who is funding this crap' thread...…..

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OK I read your post, you said this
However, later on in the day, there were ACTUAL reporters who had embedded themselves into the hoard pretending to be members of the caravan and they ASKED others about that and were told that either they KNEW of others who were or ADMITTED that they were.


The "fake news" is no longer FAKE?

The "fake news" has better intelligence sources than POTUS?

TheRUMP can say it and YOU can't...THERE IS NO PROOF OF ANYTHING

The term "blind loyalty" comes to mind.

Blind loyalty” means that someone has all faith in another person, despite that person's shortcomings and faults. They will put their trust and faith in that individual, and follow and support them against all odds.

Perhaps it's NOT blind loyalty, given that TheRUMP disagrees with what YOU claim....perhaps you're just blind to the FACTS.

Post was last edited on October 24, 2018 7:52 AM PDT

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Since you asked about 'fake' news

The reporter who embedded herself into the hoard was Sarah Carter FROM FOXNEWS....I had to wait for you to take the bait.

As I stated AND you copy/pasted....LATER IN THE DAY (which is AFTER Trump made his statement) was when HER report came out offering proof. https://www.bing.com/search?q=sarah+carter+foxnews+ms13+gang+members+caravan&form=EDGNTT&qs=PF&cvid=4496fd7a40f34ab891d709e37b92b612&cc=US&setlang=en-US&elv=AXK1c4IvZoNqPoPnS%21QRLOOewBuQ3LsugPMQkfvboqzi3g3jwdbS7sMeR3v72k7EdByTZXvh5394gEZ1X8srVhsAzVCKvvDG5z08hXlfgWHF&PC=HCTS

Take your pick of any of the search results.....

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RE:.I had to wait for you to take the bait.

So FOX NEWS has better intelligence gathering sources that POTUS?

HE/USA has NO PROOF OF ANYTHING...and FOX NEWS does?

Should FBI get in touch with FOX NEWS?

To bad TheRUMP doesn't watch FOX NEWS....HE should be on the boob tube right now withdrawing his "there is no proof of anything" statement.

Post was last edited on October 24, 2018 12:02 PM PDT

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RE:they KNEW of others who were or ADMITTED that they were.

A "terrorist" admitted they were a "terrorist"?

NO WAY>>>NO FRIGGIN' WAY.

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Of course not, but then you know that already

Those interviewed were admitting to being MS-13 gang members and/or from the Middle East (now why do you think Middle Eastern men would be in Honduras and join the hoard?)

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RE: (now why do you think Middle Eastern men would be in Hon

(now why do you think Middle Eastern men would be in Honduras and join the hoard?)

So they could sneak into the country under the cover of a hoard?

Now YOU tell me why they would try and sneak into the country AND tell others that they were terrorists.

PLEASE just explain YOUR version of THEIR logic. Just try and give us a logical explanation.

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Where did I say they admitted to being

TERRORISTS? That's YOUR word, JP. They admitted to being from the Middle East.

What I asked was 'why would they go to Honduras to join the hoard heading to the USA border?'

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RE:Where did I say they admitted to being
Where did I say they admitted to being TERRORISTS?

You didn't, you lumped them in with MS 13 Gang members.

Those interviewed were admitting to being MS-13 gang members and/or from the Middle East (now why do you think Middle Eastern men would be in Honduras and join the hoard?)

Admitted to being from the Middle East?...And that's a crime?

WHY do YOU have a mad on for Middle Eastern men?

You think THEY are ALL TERRORISTS?

You think they are gang members? Do they have gang name? What is it?
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A lot depends on WHERE in the

Middle East they are from, JP.....There are a number of countries with the immigration ban still in effect which means they can't FLY into the USA at this point. Why would they be so determined to get here that they would go to Honduras and then 'walk' in with the horde? But if they are from countries that don't have the ban imposed, why not get a visa to get here?

Stop acting ridiculous....common sense should apply at least enough to be CURIOUS about it but you would rather spend your day talking babble as usual.

YOU are the one who has referred to them as terrorists....I only was pointing out what was being reported by someone WITHIN the horde who has seen MS-13 tats on the necks of a number of men and that others admitted to being from the Middle East. If you want to call that 'lumping' them together, that's on you. Just remember, the caravan STARTED off with supposedly poor Hondurans and has escalated into a coordinated invasion through other countries. (Oh, yeah.....being poor is NOT legal justification for seeking asylum so most will be turned away or they will attempt to sneak in illegally.)

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REA lot depends on WHERE in the
A lot depends on WHERE in the Middle East they are from

Well, I hope the people from FOX NEWS asked them THAT QUESTION, (and reported their responses) when they were doing their excellent reporting of THE FACTS, that helped you make your condemnation of "people from Middle Eastern countries" trying to enter USA along with the caravan/hoard.

For some reason I don't think that fact was reported by FOX NEWS, of course I wouldn't be surprised IF/WHEN you provide those facts, given that I've "taken your bait", once again.

RE:If you want to call that 'lumping' them together, that's on you

On me?....I disagree

Your words

Those interviewed were admitting to being MS-13 gang members and/or from the Middle East (now why do you think Middle Eastern men would be in Honduras and join the hoard?)

MS 13 AND Middle Eastern men? Lumped together by you?
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Nope...go back and reread YOUR words

YOU claimed I lumped MS-13 gang members with TERRORISTS......I did NOT.

Condemnation? You're damned straight I condemn this action....by ALL of the horde. I don't give a crap about what nationality they are....I don't want ANY of them coming here AT ALL. I wouldn't want YOU coming here illegally either. So what exactly IS your point?

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I'll reread YOU YOUR words

i claimed you linked everyone/PEOPLE from the Middle East with terrorists and/or YOU linked everyone from the Middle East with MS 13

"lumped them together"

A lot depends on WHERE in the Middle East they are from, JP.....There are a number of countries with the immigration ban still in effect which means they can't FLY into the USA at this point.

Banned because of terrorism? Linked to terrorists?

THEN you changed it from "PEOPLE(all?) from Middle East countries" to WHERE in the Middle East they are from.

So the country of origin does matter?

Thank you.

Did your truthful and honest FOX NEWS ask/report those questions and answers?

If so, PLEASE post a link....BING search engine is accepted. I prefer you to select a link which proves your claim....then we both know exactly which story you are using as proof to prove your point.

Thank You.

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And, AGAIN, for the LAST time

I told you that it was reported by someone embedded in the horde that MS-13 gang members and Middle Eastern men were in the horde. I linked you to the reporter's account. I NEVER said the Middle East men were terrorists...YOU DID.

THEN, I asked 'why would they be in the horde if they didn't have a desire to get here on the sneak'.....nefarious reason would be common sense in that IF they wanted to come here, there are many ways they could do it legally and they are choosing NOT to.

IF they are from the banned countries, what is the purpose? IF they aren't from the banned countries, they have options to get here with DOCUMENTATION and VISAS and ASYLUM REQUESTS in place already.

IF someone tries to break into YOUR house through the back door rather than knock on the front and be invited, wouldn't YOU question their motives?

You can disparage Fox all you want, but they are the ONLY ones who embedded a reporter into the horde to get information about the horde. She was there and DID ask questions....too bad if you don't like the answers, but at least SHE WAS THERE. The only other media representative I saw interviewed was Jorge acting all sympathetic to these people and going on about how the USA should have respect for them and allow them to enter the USA. BUT when asked by Tucker Carlson last night why doesn't Jorge's duel citizenship country of MEXICO take them all in, he just talked over Tucker about the USA cannot be heartless. Then when asked how many Jorge PERSONALLY was willing to house in his own home, he again talked over him and never answered. Then Tucker asked him if he was giving any of his MILLIONS of dollars to the horde so they could pay for rides, food, clothes, etc. and he talked rapidly about how 'generous' and 'in solidarity' the sympathetic MEXICAN PEOPLE have been to the horde.

Another case of a liberal bleeding heart lecturing the USA on morality AS LONG AS IT DOESN'T PERSONALLY AFFECT HIM BY DROPPING THEM INTO HIS BACKYARD......ANYWHERE but THERE.

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RE: I NEVER said the Middle East men were terrorists...YOU D

I NEVER said the Middle East men were terrorists


You didn't say they were terrorists...so what makes them "special"?....."worthy of notice"

MS 13 are gang members.....

Middle east men are...??????

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Fast and Furious

What happened to the Obama Gun Scandal Guns? I won't be surprised if whomever is bankrolling this caravan will suddenly when they reach the border distribute guns to them to help in the invasion. How many of those will be "Obama" guns?

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RE:I wouldn't want YOU coming here illegally either.

Rest easy TONI....Don't lose any sleep over that happening.

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they don't do the march

They get into an area near the border and wait for those groups to show up, then infiltrate them, in attempt to get into the country to pull off their terrorist plans. They have the money to do so.

If they want to catch terrorist joining the caravan, they need to be there within the last 50 miles to the border and watch any new people that suddenly appear and join the caravan, and mark them as possible terrorists. Not too difficult to do since if they are Islamic, often can speak English, but NOT Mexican.

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Someone has a mad on for

MS 13 AND people from the Middle East?

Everyone from the Middle East?

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What do you think of this idea?

When the hoard gets to our lower border, Trump's military force just acts like Mexico's and gives the hoard an escort straight north and sends them across to Canada instead. Will you welcome them with open arms and support them? After all, just like Mexico, Canada is an international asylum port, too.

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Great idea.

But I expect they will run away once they are in the USA and before they are in Canada.
It's better being illegal in the USA than being refused from Canada for not being a real refugee.
Moreover, Canada is much too cold to live in for an average person from Honduras or the Middle East.

Are they illegally in Mexico and should they be detained there, or can they be considered tourists enjoying that lovely country on their way to the next? Like Americans visiting a few countries in Europe during one vacation.

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According to Mexican laws,

If they come into their country without documentation, they are illegals and can be deported, seek asylum, or jailed. Sound familiar?

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Re: documentation

I didn't read until now that they didn't have their passports with them. Did you?

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Evidently

you haven't kept up with the news much because it's been reported already that those without documentation (passports weren't mentioned) have already been sent back to Honduras from Guatemala.

But, you bring up an interesting topic.....IF they HAVE passports, why haven't they applied for visas to come here? If they are so poor, how could they afford to pay for passports (not cheap, at least here)? From most reports, even from the lame street media, over the years keeping track of illegals who cross our border, they are UNDOCUMENTED illegals.

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RE:What do YOU think of this idea?

Post was last edited on October 25, 2018 7:55 AM PDT

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Uh, why do you think Middle East

would be in a caravan of South Americans? Because they hope to disguise themselves as NOT being from Middle East regions.

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RE:disguise themselves as NOT being from Middle East regions

OR they could get a flight from Saudi Arabia?

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