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When good tech goes bad ...

Mar 15, 2010 12:32PM PDT

One of my PCs has been misbehaving lately. I back up all my PCs to a Windows Home Server system. The backups are supposed to happen nightly. Unfortunately, something in my attempts to install a printer driver a week ago nuked the automatic backup. Or maybe it was something else. I have no idea what went wrong. My best guess: Apparently some hidden partitions on the main disk drive became unhidden somehow (no idea why) and the Home Server Connector could not figure out which volumes to back up. Not good. Worse, the connector software would not load its configuration dialog so I could not choose which volumes to back up. I deleted the program. Then it wouldn't re-install for some reason. In the process of several install attempts most of my system restore points vanished so I could not just roll the system back to a few days ago.

The good news is I haven't been using this system much for a number of reasons. Not much has changed in the week since I installed the printer drivers. It was easy to identify the files that I needed to archive before completely restoring the system to its last known stable configuration. The bad news is that restoring 300+ GB from backups via a 'fast ethernet' connection is a really slow process. If I did my math right (not a given) just transferring the restored files from the WHS system will take about 8 hours. For the first two hours I watched the 'Estimated time to completion' rise steadily from about 2.5 hours to about 7+ hours. Now (several hours into the process) the 'Estimated time' is finally decreasing with time. Only 7 hours to go if you believe the progress bar (I don't).

With any luck, by the time I get up in the AM the restore will be nearly done. Or not. I'm almost afraid to consider what happens to the pace of the restore process while WHS backs up the other PCs on the network this evening.

Ain't technology grand?

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Cancel my service contract with
Mar 19, 2010 5:43AM PDT

OslerTech.com Happy

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There is some good news ....
Mar 19, 2010 11:30AM PDT

I always wondered how the restore process works. I'd never had a computer that I wanted to deliberately crash just to test the WHS system. It worked. Aside from the hours of waiting for the files to copy over the Ethernet there were no major problems. I helped make sure there was no competition by shutting down everything else on the LAN so the nightly backups would not run and compete for server processor and bandwidth resources.

The PC is back up, the hidden partitions are hidden again and Win XP is working as well as usual.

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Good job. Related: I understand there's now
Mar 22, 2010 12:51AM PDT

a SP3 for XP. Also that MS support ends this summer. (Although the SPs should remain on their servers for download.) Also that legacy work is now easier with MS: Free upgrades to make the Offices work both ways for opening and some editing.

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XP support life
Mar 22, 2010 1:58AM PDT
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Thanks for the link. BTW "no support" usually means
Mar 22, 2010 2:15AM PDT

merely no new updates, especially as to security. I've never found that to be a problem with Windows because the bad hackers focus on the latest versions. E.g. 98 was safe after XP came out.
With server space now so cheap, MS and others often keep legacy stuff indefinitely.

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newest motherboards
Mar 22, 2010 3:54AM PDT

will not support windows 98 anymore. They are not creating driver files for the controller chips on them. If you wish to continue with windows 98 but replace a motherboard, be sure to check first that the manufacturer has driver files for windows 98. You can load windows 98 on the newest motherboards, but with a lot of functions unavailable. Such functions can be made available only through add in cards for video, LAN, some USB, etc. If windows 98 can't access the controller chips, all the functions included on the motherboard won't work and all that's left is if there's PCI slots available for cards which do have windows 98 driver files. If you want a windows 98 Legacy system for a long time or for future use to show grandkids, etc. I'd get a Gigabyte early model all capacitor motherboard that still did come with windows 98 driver files. The current crop of Gigabyte motherboards with the AMD controller chips will not run windows 98 except in very crippled mode, and that's if you remember all the other moves like limiting the first active partition on a harddrive to 32GB or less. The best legacy system left that doesn't have the microsoft activation virus come with it is windows 2000, which is very stable. Plenty of copies on Ebay for a good price and no activation to mess with, so no problems when upgrading motherboard or other parts of a computer. It also can still be loaded on a FAT32 or NTFS partition, as can XP. Vista and beyond can read FAT32 but will only load onto NTFS partitions. Data recovery on NTFS partitions can be tricky sometimes to recover, especially if encryption was used.

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(NT) TUVM. I've thought of trying 2000 for its solidity.
Mar 22, 2010 5:49AM PDT
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SP3 causes problems for a few AMD
Mar 22, 2010 10:19AM PDT

based computers, mostly HP I think, but not certain of the details.

It has totally crashed some past the point of restoring to an early state as I understand it.

So if you haven't installed it, be careful and do a bit of checking up.

It got my brother-in-law for one.

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(NT) TUVM as always, Roger.
Mar 23, 2010 7:46AM PDT