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When are you moving to Windows 10?

by Lee Koo (ADMIN) CNET staff/forum admin / July 21, 2015 5:47 PM PDT

Windows 10 public release is right around the corner, so tell us...

When are you moving to Windows 10?

-- As soon as it is released.
-- As soon as the first big patch is released for it.
-- Before my one-year free upgrade period expires.
-- When they stop supporting the Windows version I'm on.
-- When I get a new computer.
-- When they stop using Windows tiles.
-- Other. (When will that be?)
-- Never. (Why not?)

Click here to place your votes

Post was last edited on July 22, 2015 10:09 AM PDT

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Maybe on 7/28/16 depending
by wpgwpg / July 21, 2015 6:22 PM PDT

I'm going to wait and see how it's received and how buggy it is. When they give us a year to decide, it seems foolish to be one of the first. I've been testing it since the Insider Preview started 10/1/14; and I don't like the changes they've made to the user interface, and I'm still seeing quirks and bugs as of the latest release, 10240.
The good news, if you can call it that, is that it does have a new Start menu, and performance and reliability is pretty good for legacy applications. Still there's nothing new in it that appeals to me. Certainly not Edge (aka Spartan) or Cortana. YMMV.

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When are you moving to Windows 10?
by ajw399 / July 21, 2015 6:30 PM PDT

When they stop supporting the Windows version I'm on

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NEVER
by thorzinet / July 21, 2015 6:49 PM PDT

Fed up with the new system as is. Tile applications Suck. Switching to Mac

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Smart Move
by bydesign37 / July 22, 2015 5:29 AM PDT
In reply to: NEVER

I made that change almost 5 years ago and have never looked back. Enjoy *almost* frustration-free computing, better security and computers/software that just work!

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Not sure about better security
by orlbuckeye / July 23, 2015 4:14 AM PDT
In reply to: Smart Move

It just doesn't have as many attacks but when they do they are bigger than WIndows (Flashback Malware was the biggest attack ever). I hear from MAC users alot that MACS don't get viruses.

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Hmm. I've never heard that from a Mac user.
by Hartiq / July 23, 2015 10:25 AM PDT

I *am* a Mac user. And a Windows user. And a user of *Nixxies and other stuff. But no other Mac user has ever told me that Mac OS is virus-free. They *do* say there are fewer viruses out in the wild infecting Macs and that Mac OS X is a bit safer than Windows but not one of them (apart from the obvious loonies) has said it is "Safe".
Nothing is.
OS X is *relatively* safe but anything can be shot dead if you use a big enough gun. Happy

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Safe
by orlbuckeye / July 24, 2015 5:04 AM PDT

The reason MAC is safer is because there aren't as many people attacking it.

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When are you moving to Windows 10
by Andercanto / July 21, 2015 7:00 PM PDT

When I get a new computer. Time marches on. That being said, I just built a new machine and opted for Windows 8.1 with classic shell, so it will be some time before I'm in the market again.

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As soon as released on Win8.1 tablet and never on Win 7 PC
by corecalifornia / July 21, 2015 7:33 PM PDT

Due to lack of Windows Media Center in Win10, will never install Win10 on my Win7 PC. However, will install Win10 on my Win8.1 tablet as soon as it is released.

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I asked my wife
by James Denison / July 21, 2015 7:33 PM PDT

Since I use Linux, she uses W7, which also can allow some take home from work. She won't move to 10 unless her job does, or when it does.

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When they stop using Tiles
by tds7 / July 21, 2015 7:34 PM PDT

The poll is not working

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Poll no link. both come here.
by tedtks / July 21, 2015 8:09 PM PDT

poll

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ASAP
by jlsquires / July 21, 2015 7:39 PM PDT

I have 9 dedicated computers and I plan to begin with the most expendable and work toward full adoption if it pans out as hoped for.

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Mostly, but not 100 percent of my machines will be automatic
by bigbubba2002 / July 21, 2015 7:47 PM PDT

well three units will be upgraded automatically and 2 units will stay with win 7 for now due to proprietary software that will not transfer licenses "yet". I have all m y own software for everything that is not included with update so I have no issues there. Change is the KEY WORD.
Like it or don't, as you do have a choice, for now at least...

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not too soon
by dragonmizer / July 21, 2015 8:24 PM PDT

On my win 8.1 tablet and touchscreen Ultrabook I'm staying on Windows 8.1 quite frankly the interface is much better for touch. but on my old windows 7 non touch laptop & ancient desktop,I will install it. I've been an insider since day one & for a desktop it's great,for touch not so great.

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windows10
by Korobij / July 21, 2015 8:52 PM PDT

Windows 8 turned me off any updated stuff. I love my windows7 and until MS completely does away with all support it's mine!

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As soon as it's released
by jdonalds / July 21, 2015 9:45 PM PDT

I have a swap-able C: drive. I will run Windows 7 for a very long time, but on a second drive I will upgrade to Windows 10 just to check it out and keep up to date with the features and options there.

I ran Windows 10 as an insider for a few weeks and was impressed. I would actually be willing two switch permanently except for one thing.

Microsoft abandoned Windows Explorer and replaced it with File Explorer. In the process they threw away the excellent Tag feature that I use for my photos (over 50,000 tagged photos).

So while I'll take advantage of the W10 upgrade I will only plug it in from time to time, but will be running W7. Actually I find nothing wrong with W7, and nothing compelling about W10.

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Photo tagging
by kevinpo / July 22, 2015 5:02 AM PDT

So, are you saying that in W10 we will not be able to tag people in m"My Pictures" and do a search of a name and pull up all the photos with that person's name etc ??

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Don't know about My Pictures
by jdonalds / July 22, 2015 11:16 AM PDT
In reply to: Photo tagging

The excellent tagging features in Windows 7 Windows Explorer were this (for me).

1) There were three panes. One to view the thumbnail, one to view a large image of a selected thumbnail, and one to edit details such as tags and dates. File Explorer has only two panes; thumbnails and either a large photo OR details. I can't see all three at once which was necessary for efficient editing.

2) When I started a photo search using tags Windows Explorer would build a database of all of the tags. I could then search for any tag. Typing a partial tag would bring up a list of all tags with a match to what I've typed. File Explorer attempts to do the same thing but the algorithm has been rewritten and does not work properly.

3) When entering a tag a list of tags would be presented with check boxes on the left of each. I could then click those boxes in any order to enter those tags for that photo. File Explorer only allows me to click on one box which killed the functionality of that feature.

4) The way I use tags is to enter the name of each person in the photo left-to-right. File Explorer alphabetizes the tags! This totally destroys my system. After playing in the Windows 10 Preview for a while I've had to painfully reorder the tags in many photos.

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1: Open two windows.
by Hartiq / July 23, 2015 10:32 AM PDT

1: Open two windows. Or would that be too much like work?
2: Maybe they'll fix it if you report it often enough. You still have about a week.
3: See two.
4: See two and perhaps you might think of : "L-to-R ... 01-Jimmy, 02-Alice, 03-Zebulon, 04-Aaaron ..." or similar. Happy
I use a folder scheme something like that for images. Y2013M07D23, Y2013M07D24 and so on. Most default sorts cope with that quite well.

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Partially right
by jdonalds / July 23, 2015 7:24 PM PDT
In reply to: 1: Open two windows.

1) Yes opening two windows, while quite inconvenient to keep the two in sync, would solve the problem created when the Three Panes were eliminated in File Explorer.

2) I reported it several times while participating in the insider program of Windows 10.

3) See two.

4) There are several problems with putting numbers in front of names. First if you want to use "Jimmy" on two different photos where he is on the left in the first photo but second from the left in the other photo you'd have to have an 01-Jimmy and an 02-Jimmy. It just wouldn't work.

I too use dated folders in a hierarchy. But when I want to search for Irene that doesn't help. Also trying to put names in file names quickly runs out of steam.

I've tried several photo editing / organizing programs but almost all of them create a separate database and maintain hidden links between photos and that database. If you change the file name of the photo you can lose the link. Or if you email a file to someone it loses the name association. If you upload the photo file to a photo web site that data is also lost. After years of running into issues I finally figured out that Tags are great. They live inside the file so will get moved with the file. There must be some scheme used for names and I choose Left-to-Right.

So, as I said, the Windows Explorer in Windows 7 works exceptionally well. I'll stick with Windows 7.

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I will take a look
by jdonalds / July 23, 2015 9:18 PM PDT

Thank you for the links. I'll take a look. But I, as are many other people, am strongly opposed to using cloud services.

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Cloud Services
by orlbuckeye / July 24, 2015 5:09 AM PDT
In reply to: I will take a look

Well the advantage of the cloud is sharing is easy with multiple devices.

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I took a look
by jdonalds / July 23, 2015 9:30 PM PDT

From what I can see, based on the links you provided, OneDrive will automatically generate tags which is the first reason I would reject it. I certainly don't want algorithms making an attempt to create accurate tags. But I also read that one can turn that feature off.

Second I see no help whatsoever for entering tags, or any promise that the tags won't be "sorted" as they are in File Manager.

The wonderful thing about Windows Explorer is the tagging system is really good, much better than any other software I've tried and I must have tried about 20 or more.

It seems to me that the vast majority of people who take photos and don't have a good system for cataloging them will likely benefit greatly from the OneDrive automated system, but I don't expect it to be better than 80% accurate at best. For someone like me who has a solid system in place I still see no alternative but to stick with Windows 7.

I've requested several times that Microsoft include a version of Windows Explorer for those of us who don't find File Explorer to be an "upgrade." Apparently there is no interest by Microsoft.

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When they stop supporting W7
by val_w / July 21, 2015 11:31 PM PDT

XP was a widely popular OS but eventually did need a "facelift". Vista certainly did that but it did annoy a lot of people, although I had no problem with it(once I figured out where they'd moved everything to,lol) Then along came W7, an easy transition to arguably the best OS that Microsoft have produced. At last. We could all sit back and relax...but no, all those developers they'd employed had to be kept busy to earn their bucks so after a short coffee break, W8 was forced upon us to the disgust of many,resulting in a resounding belly-flop, only prevented from sinking by a hasty update to W8.1 . Now just as people are grudgingly coming to accept 8.1 as tolerable.....("lets skip W9 to make it more exciting")..ta da..W10!! I'm unmoved. I am resolutely sticking with W7 until this laptop dies a death,or they stop supporting it, whichever is sooner. THEN I'm getting an iMac.

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I will use Open Source operating systems
by aammdd / July 22, 2015 7:58 AM PDT

When they stop supporting Windows 7, I will be switching to Ubuntu and open source software. Then I can run my existing windows software without purchasing new applications that will run on later versions of Windows.

I am retired and I get tired of having to upgrade my applications or get a new more powerful computer capable of running the new software.

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Sharing a little.
by R. Proffitt Forum moderator / July 22, 2015 8:08 AM PDT

Windows 10 seems to run faster than 7 on a few test machines here. Go figure.

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MS stripped out a lot of stuff that was in 7
by wpgwpg / July 22, 2015 8:20 AM PDT
In reply to: Sharing a little.

MS removed the games, XP mode, Windows Media Center, etc. If you make a car lighter, it will get better mileage.

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Media Center
by Castagere / August 16, 2015 11:58 AM PDT

Yeah i had just started using media center and liked it. I was surprised they took it out of 10

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