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Especially when they get caught red-handed playing "pass the trash".
From that story, "The indictment also said Lindauer met last summer with an undercover FBI agent posing as a Libyan intelligence officer seeking help in supporting resistance groups inside Iraq. She twice left documents for the undercover agent at designated spots in Takoma Park, the indictment said.".
Note: Bad writing, started with "The indictment also said" and ended with "the indictment said." As I directly quoted it, I did not clip the end redundancy.
What was in the documents? The reports I've seen so far have given no description of the informations she is accused of relaying.
Dan
Nor were you presented publically with the documents in the Robert Hanssen FBI spy scandal.
Even if it were a "honey trap", just the act of passing them is a crime that stands by itself.
Or cupcake recipies. Or box scores of the spring training games. Or a list of her favorite boy bands.
The Hanssen information was described, but not detailed. Maybe that's where you're confused.
Dan
I'm not confused at all, they "nailed" a secretary where I worked. Your inexperience with the subject is not confusion on my part.
Do you wonder if she declared that $5,000 she got from the Iraq intelligence service on her income tax? Think about that one before you answer, it's a "Bart Simpson".
that's a problem. But I've still not seen any description or characterization of the information that she is accused of delivering.
Dan
The "problem" goes beyond IRS tax money problems in that failure, hiding it indicates something in court. Court is where the details of the documents come out, not the newspapers.
She was a particularly bad hider if she was trying to keep her activities secret.
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The indictment said Ms. Lindauer delivered a letter early last year to a United States government official listing her access to and contacts with Saddam Hussein's government.
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Dan
And then she walked right into a trap with open eyes.
I assure, you, the people who deal with such things are not "kidding", they tend to move when they have a "mortal lock".
They picked her up at her house. I'd bet $5 that she'd have driven herself in if they had called her. Nary a cloak or dagger in play. I hope they didn't spend too many taxpayer dollars constructing this mortal lock. She did, after all, deliver an accounting of her activities to a government official.
No material here to help A. A. Milne, much less Ian Fleming.
Dan
The trap was showing up in Takoma Park and passing documents to an FBI agent who was impersonating a foreign agent. On the spending taxpayer dollars silliness, agents are on salary and don't work by the hour.
nt
NT
stock market, tea and crumpets? The possibilities are endless.
NT
They would characterize the information the she handed over, state how serious the damage that could have been done is, and relate how she acquired the information. That has all been done in previous cases.
Dan
Hi, J.
First of all, look at the amount. From the description of her activities, $5,000 doesn't even come close to matching the expenses for the trips, hotel rooms, etc. -- that's certainly not a lobbying contract, it's defraying personal expenses incurred as part of her activities. I'm not certain enough about regulations to know as to whether that legally counts as "income," but I'm sure neither was she -- and morally, it shouldn't. There may indeed be a technical violation, but to me this reeks of selective prosecution of a peace activist, much like what they're doing to Greenpeace, previously discussed here: U.S. takes hard line on Greenpeace.
Selective prosecution of political opponents is not a tactic that should be used under our system -- that's more the tactic of a totalitarian regime.
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Technical violation? You must be kidding, and that's putting it charitably!
Kiddpeat, I'm still getting over being stunned by his trying to bring Greenpeace into it. BTW, employers pay expenses, cash from somebody who is not your employeer is something else.
Hi, KP.
According to the story and her claims, she was begging the Administration not to invade Iraq (hence my comment on her being a would-be peacemaker). Needless to say, the Iraqis (who didn't want to be invaded) had some interest in facilitating her making those pleas.
There is nothing in the story about "spying on Iraqi defectors." What's your basis for that new claim?
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See my post below quoting from the Chicago Sun Times that she was spying on individuals. I don't know if this story is still on their site.
Hi, KP.
A very misleading statement. Nowhere is she charged with doing any of those things -- she's only charged with having contact with any agency reposnible for such activities. If there was ANY evidence that she was doing any of those things, they'd be counts of the indictment, and you know that as well as I do. And elsewhere, it's stated that she's not even charged with being an agent of the intelligence service, only for the government. This is political harassment of a peace activist, pure and simple.
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From your initial link
The indictment also said Lindauer met last summer with an undercover FBI agent posing as a Libyan intelligence officer seeking help in supporting resistance groups inside Iraq. She twice left documents for the undercover agent at designated spots in Takoma Park, the indictment said.
This is the one that a lot of how serious it is hangs on. It doesn't even matter what info she passed, but what she thought it was and what she thought it could do to help resistance groups.
That's IF that is proven to be what she was intending to do.
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