What Tuner Car to Get?!?!

I'm sorry, but i could not just go by letting this go by unoticed.
The cars that most of you guys are talking about are nothing any parents would give to their 16 year-old children.
Supra?! ...did someone say that a MUSTANG would cost too much insurance?

and btw...a mustang is an American Muscle car (to whoever said that a mustang is a tuner, LOL!)

Oh, and I'm more of a chevy guy..mustangs are alright, but a 1999? I'm sure there are a few good ones out there...lol, and a LOT of other ones that ppl drive cuz it's got the "Mustang" name on it, and it's cheap...don't get me wrong, my buddy owns a roush stage 3, and i agree it's very nice, but it doesn't sound like you (or your parents) can't afford something crazy..and having a fast car is a HIGH risk of auto accident for teens(hence the insurance)...i'm sure your parents wouldn't like that at all

to give you some honest advice...you're only about to get your license and your parents aren't rich, i'd figure..Have you even ever driven a manual before? it's nothing u can't get used to, but most ppl don't even learn mt at all these days! it's nice to have a dream, and make it come true...but don't try to pimp out your mom's old car. spending more money than a car is worth is not a good idea. don't waste the time and energy trying to look cool and drive fast...we have all done this(and sometimes still do)...AND we have all had friends die in stupid street racing accidents (whether it's their fault or not, they die and injur other people)...

what I did when i was 16...get whatever your parents will give you...and if it breaks down, FIX IT!..if it's an old car, i'm sure a few small projects would be fun and more gratifying. and later, go through college and get a good job...and even then, you still may not be able to get that dream car...goto college and come out driving a sweet nismo 350Z like me (parents helped me with that cuz I got a full scholarship to my university)...you should be tricking out a newer gen car that actually has a lot of potential before you even begin making mods. I was supposed to be looking for some nice stuff to do to my dash, but I saw this...just sorry.

if you go out and buy an expensive car you are dumb. the first car you get should be a beater. this is only because if you wrck it (which you most likley will) you wont care as much. thats just my view

just an fyi

a 98 supra in good condition costs $40,000 or more. good car to tune, not cheap at all

yea i am sure muscle cars have tons of power, but you take that 30000 doller muscle car and put it up against a 8000$ used 3000gt and put about 5000$ into it, the 3000gt would not only smoke it in a drag race, it would handle 10000 times better then those led sled muscle cars. i also think that making your car look cool is the last thing you should do. i have an 93 integra, stage 3 clutch, flywheel, intake, coilovers, exaust headers and system, cams, and a few other goodies but it looks completely stock other than a little lower. so i'll pull up to a guy in a honda civic thats got an ugly body kit, hood scoops, and disguisting spoiler and a muffler to make it sound good. and when I hit the power he doesnt know what hit him, but hey at least he looks cool. i actually just smoked a chevy cobalt ss the other week. so for those of you who are dissin the little rice burner, most of them got more balls then any of ther other american led sleds that are 1/2 as reliable as a quality *** car. thats just my 2 cents.

when you talk about a $30000 muscle car, you mean one where the owner put all that money into the looks of the car, which usually means little to no performance. However, since the base displacement of a muscle car is vastly larger than that of your integra, or most any other rice burner stock (read: displacement, not horsepower or torque), there is a higher power potential. The imports use more advance tricks, like turbos or nos, to produce more power. But since the motor of a muscle car produces conciderable power naturally aspirated, adding a supercharger, turbo, or nos will push power past anything a little rice burner 4 or 6 cylinder car can make. And modern muscle cars (mustang gt, etc.) can be made to corner quite well with the addition of some quality suspension components. You can keep your little 4 cylinder engine, I'll take the cubic inches.

discplacement really does not mean anything, an engine can have huge cyl. but if the engine is of poor quality it will still be slower. example: i used to have a z28, much bigger engine than my integra, so if your statement about how discplacement is all that matters is true, the z28 should be quicker right? Wrong!!!! when i would get that peice running it was pretty quick, but if you took my integra up against it, it wouldnt even be a race. but as you say, cubic inches is all that matters, i mean, take a 450 hp, 1.3 liter geo (thier is such thing, seen them drag), and put it up against a 450 hp muscle car that weighs twice as much and watch what happens, OHH, THE MUSCLE CAR LOST TO A GEO!!!! here, thought i would do a little research and, well here ya go.


http://www.classicsandcustoms.com/search/details.asp?1=1&listing_id=13969 about a 30000$ muscle car 396 V8 375 bhp @ 5600 rpm, 415 lb-ft @ 3600 and weighs in at 3,070 pounds
or
2006 Ford Mustang V6 Standard
Horsepower: 210 hp @ 5250 rpm
Torque: 240 ft-lbs @ 3500 rpm
Curb Weight 3373 lbs


http://www.autotrader.com /fyc/vdp.jsp?&min_price=1&distance=300&dealer_id=621774&lang=en&bkms=1138749042817&end_year=2006&address=53147&make=ACURA&start_year=1982&certified=&car_year=1998&car_id=195745846&cardist=300&isp=y&max_price=10000&advanced=&search_type=both&model=INTEG#vdptop

1998 integra about 9000$

Horsepower: 170 hp @ 7600 rpm Torque: 128 ft-lbs @ 6200 rpm
Curb Weight 2665 lbs
http://www.turbo-kits.com/integra_turbo_kits.html
stage 3 turbo, intercooler, blow off valve, and other turbo parts 4500$ GIVE IT A TOTAL OF 370HP and about 300pounds of torque

http://www.carreview.com/cat/parts/exhaust/cat-back-exhaust-systems/greddy/PRD_1060_1580crx.aspx
cat back exaust 600$ GIVE IT ABOUT 15 HP and 5 POUNDS OF TORQUE

http://www.doctorimport.com/dc_sports_header/
exaust headers 380$ and 10HP and about 5 pounds of torque

http://www.doctorimport.com/aem_shortram.html
cold air intake 120$ 10HP 5 pounds of torque

http://www.modacar.com/products/Acura/Integra/MODAPUK/pulleys.html
pulley kit 320$ 15HP and 8 pounds of torque

http://www.modacar.com/products/Acura/Integra/MODACAS/camshafts.html
cam shaft 650$ 8HP and 8 pounds of torque

http://www.optionsauto.com/products.asp?dept=3631
throttle body 400$ approx 15 HP and 10 pounds of torque

http://www.optionsauto.com/products.asp?dept=494
intake manifold 530$ approx 10HP and 5 pounds of torque

http://www.tunerschoice.com/Product.ASPX?dept_id=216&display_id=16
Nos injection kit 570$ 100HP and approx 50 Pounds of torque

http://www.tunerschoice.com/xq/aspx/paging.yes/dept_id.256/display_id.244/qx/Product.htm
stage 2 clutch 420$

http://www.tunerschoice.com/product.aspx?display_id=255&dept_id=254
flywheel 400$

http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires.jsp?tireMake=Yokohama&tireModel=AVS+ES100&partnum=955VR5ES100&vehicleSearch=true&fromCompare1=yes&place=8
tires 280$

http://www.importperformance.com/store/sk-517-05-0720
cheap coilovers 340$

HP:561
TORQUE:401
TOTAL PRICE:18500
hmmm, i bet that muscle car with all of its cubic inches would still win. and when you say if you add supercharger, turbo, or nos, you would still have a lot of "rice burners" that would easily smoke you, take a look into supras, wrx sti's, evos, skylines, a few of them could smoke a muscle car completely stock for the same price, not to mention, except for the supra (rwd) they are all 4wd and could outhandle ANY muscle car. have i made my point?

what the hell is that

you probably outran a V6 you **** i could take any V6 in my hatch cause i can barley keep up with a V8 and my hatch has a completly built motor and lancer couldnt out run anything especially automatic the BMW probably waqsnt even trying to race you you ****

You only put 700 into a stock lancer and you burned a mustang? Mustang gts? I really wanna know how you did that with so little money. Turbo, underkit, and exhaust should set you back more than 700.

I would suggest you get a old civic. Easy to mod, cheap, vtec. The only thing about civics is that they are too common. If you can find something more unique. I am young too and just saved up money for the past 2 years. Just brought a 240sx. It was cheap, only 1,500. Almost have enough for my project, about 1k more and I should finish it. r32 engine swap, brembo brakes, aspen white paintjob, exhaust tip. All in all I should be pushing 400hp to the wheels. Anyway, good luck.

mitsubishi eclipse and lancer ,honda civic si,nissan 240sx turbo, subaru wrx sti, honda prelude, newer celica's are my recomendation for something really fun, and the last one i can think of off the top of my head is the honda del sol

you people need somthing better to do
go do some research on your own and join a auto forum on a car you would like to learn about.

my opinion on the car:
get a DSM or i just blew up a mitsubishi starion until the incident it was a awsome car and no one knows what they are they really turn heads.

beware of second gen eclipses and talons they tend to develope crankwalk if you push them or if they have to many miles on them.

i am new to the import scene and was lookin online and found a cheap 1995 Saab 9000 CSE. Do you know if this would be a good tune up car?? or are parts available?

We are newly started the co and i want details about chemicals

Regards
LD

yo, for all of ya suckas your all crazy, no offense but your all crazy.

Dodge SRT-4:under $20,000
1.fastest car you can get for under under $20k!!!
2.cool body parts
Toyata Supra: I LOve this car!!!!!!!!! usually like...$50,000 or less
1.one of the cool tuners you dont see often
2.awesome body kits
3.awesome engine upgrades

your right about the Silvia though, sorry for being so crazy

me like skyline!....lol does anyone like skylines?

Anyone here like My Chemical Romance?

The Black Parade rox!!!!!!!