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What the in the future for Video gamers?

Sep 21, 2007 4:35AM PDT

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It doesn't
Sep 21, 2007 7:45AM PDT

The PS3 has a single CPU, not counting the EmotionEngine chip from the PS2 that some models have. It has a single Cell processor, that has about 8 cores, only 6-7 of which are actually used by the PS3.

Personally, I hope the future of video games is that this obsession with graphics subsides enough to let some real gameplay innovation happen. I don't know how much longer I can deal with the same basic formula being recycled for countless games. Graphics aside, how much real change has there been in first person shooter titles since Wolfeinstein 3D back in the early 90s? You still mostly run around cramped corridors, shooting pretty much anything that moves. The Thief series was a refreshing take on the first person shooter... Not only do you play an anti-hero, but stealth and cunning are the objective, not just charging in guns blazing.

Even my favorite genre of role playing games has been pretty stagnant for quite some time. The sphere grid in FFX was interesting, as was the no random encounters aspect of FFXII, but most RPGs follow a pretty set pattern. Some great evil appears, and a motley band of heroes sets off to dispatch it. You usually have your guys on one side, enemy units on the other, and you take turns slugging it out. It's been like that since the NES days in the 80s. Games like Grandia came up with an interesting twist, but it was more of an evolution than a revolution.

I wish more people would stand up and say that they would prefer gameplay to take precedence over graphics. Once you've got the controls down and all the other game mechanics are finely tuned and running smoothly, you can spend the remaining time and budget on making the game look pretty. As opposed to making the game look pretty, and then spending very little time on controls and other game mechanics. The world is littered with games that could have been truly excellent if more time had been spent on the fundamental mechanics.

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(NT) Take up chess
Sep 21, 2007 12:01PM PDT
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Why?
Sep 21, 2007 12:57PM PDT

Why should I spend $50 or more on a game that's absolutely gorgeous to look at, but equally unplayable? Games are not movies, which are passive, they're interactive. Despite some truly ugly looking graphics at times, I'll take some old PSX games over much of the latest gen stuff any day.

Steadily improved graphics are important, but they should never be more important than the actual game. Nice graphics without the solid gameplay to back it up may as well be a movie. At least then there's no frustration involved, because you're expecting a completely passive experience.

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Because,
Sep 21, 2007 1:41PM PDT

by the manner of your complaints you seem burnt out on Video games and have been playing the same ones for too long. The fault being that you lack the ability or imagination to change your routine. They're games for God sake, frivolous pass times, amusements. That frankly you should be very grateful for. Video games are amazing technical creations and there impact on the world will be great but most likely in some other format other then gaming. You can't see that can you.

You can buy a chess set for about $10.00 or less. They come with a board and a dozen or so plastic pieces and you would need to find someone to play the game with you. When I was a young man this is the way most games were played. At one time chess was considered the game of kings, probable because only kings had the money to buy them or the free time or energy to play them.

You are most likely correct about the cores, my mistake, preciseness is needed here.

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No...
Sep 22, 2007 7:36AM PDT

It's more a case of having to put down a large number of games that could have been very interesting, because they were simply unplayable.

I finally gave up on PC gaming... Just a non-stop parade of first person shooters, none of which really do anything that wasn't already done with Wolfeinstein 3D over a decade ago. They just improve the graphics and change the enemy models.

At least most RPGs have decent stories. I don't know if it's because Final Fantasy X was my first real RPG, or just that it's a phenomenal story, but that game will always hold a special place in my mind. Sadly, with a few exceptions like Xenosaga, it's pretty much a rare find among games.

I've played chess when I was younger, checkers, monopoly, and plenty of other board games, and I just don't really go in for them much. And yes they are games, but you can't really call it a game when the controls are so sloppy that it's either essentially or even literally unplayable. And if I'm going to pay $50 or more for a game, I'm expecting to be entertained by it. If I'm not, I feel I have every right to complain as a consumer. I don't even think I'm all that demanding... Just that they spend more time on substance and less on flash. The flash is what makes games so expensive to produce these days, so it'd even be good for the game developers.

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This is not a discussion.
Sep 22, 2007 8:00AM PDT

This is a loop. Yes, you have every right to state your opinion, like I have the right not to listen to it. I'd have a better time talking to myself or playing chess. Hope you find a solution to your concerns. End of post.

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GET ON THE WAGON
Sep 23, 2007 12:37PM PDT

Video games are amazing technical creations that were MADE TO BE PLAYED.What other format would they be made for,other than a ripoff of something great promised and leaveing you with a very expensive wish sandwich.I don't care what your game format is,but if you like REPETITIVE-BORING-MUNDANE-GAMEPLAY- GO FOR IT. Give me a game with some sustenance!!!!I have too many sitting on the shelf also.

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Why don't you just quit?
Sep 23, 2007 1:12PM PDT

If your bored with your games maybe you should do something else. Maybe you can't. I get it your addicted. Obsessive compulsive behaviors come in many forms. Eating, drinking, drugging, working gambling, work, sex, even adrenalin (see extreme sports and sky diving) we'll add gaming, some people just need a fix. They Just don't like the skin there in. I learned a lot the few years I worked for the local mental Health department.

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Not exactly
Sep 23, 2007 4:40PM PDT

Games can be addictive, but for most people they are a way to escape everyday life for a brief period of time and lose yourself in a world of fantasy. While there are always a few people who can't properly distinguish between fantasy and reality, most people have no real problems with that. Playing a game is like watching a TV show or movie, only not quite as passive.

And as the son of a mental health therapist, I can tell you that the people who go to a county or state mental health department are going to be generally the worst of the worst. They are often people who need to be institutionalized. As a result, this might well alter your perception of things. Day in and day out, you see some very disturbed people, and it would be pretty natural to start thinking that this is a far more common sort of thing than it is. Truth is, while probably most people would benefit from a little professional guidance now and again, the majority of people are pretty successful at navigating life. Sure, they may screw up from time to time, but that's part of being human, and they tend to get things right more times than not.

It's really kind of a simple thing. People feel cheated when they pay hard earned money for a game, only to get it home and find that there are serious flaws with it. Be it that the gameplay is awful, the story is thin to non-existent, loading times are atrocious, or any of a myriad of other possible reasons. That's not a sign of some deep seated mental disorder, that's justifiable discontent. It's really no different than going to a movie that looked great in the previews, only to find that the previews were the only good parts of the entire movie. You feel a little cheated when it's all said and done, don't you? Or maybe you buy a brand new big screen plasma TV, you're really looking forward to watching your favorite team or movie or TV show, and something goes wrong. Maybe the cable tuner is defective or the audio keeps cutting out. Wouldn't you be just a little upset? Does this mean that you're some deranged mental patient? No.

I simply want game developers to prioritize the fundamentals of the game over the glitz and glamor of the graphics. Video games are one of my particular hobbies of choice.

Hobbies being kind of a personal thing, not everyone is going to enjoy the same things. I enjoy video games, but don't really go for board games. I enjoy a good british sitcom, while almost universally despising american sitcoms. Lately I've been chatting frequently with a fascinating woman who enjoys ballroom dancing. That's not even something that would likely enter my mind as a possibility if I were looking for something to do. Maybe there are some people who could use with a broadening of their horizons hobby wise, but one or two posts is hardly enough material to go on to make such a diagnosis. So, for everyone involved, I certainly hope your job at the mental health department isn't as a therapist. Otherwise, maybe you're the one who's burned out, and making hasty diagnoses. Even if it's not, the one thing you need to remember, is that just being around a bunch of therapists all day doesn't make you one. You might be closer than some random person off the street, but there's a big difference between you, and a certified therapist.

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Why Don't You Just Quit
Sep 24, 2007 7:55AM PDT

I wasn't talking about myself,I was talking about you.You have such a positive attitude about everything .Why don't you try getting in the car before you drive away--pun.I'm in no way bored with games,I'm not a game junky,I just like some quality in the games I play.If you can't understand what someone is trying to explain to you-closed minded,I think your the one who should be laying on the couch.So relax take a deep breath,and reread the forum,you might just learn something.