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What's wrong with the 360?

Mar 6, 2006 10:25PM PST

on monday's show veronica made a comment "I will NEVER own a xbox 360!" all i want to know is why is she so adament against the 360?

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actually

i'm not sure why i seemed so "adament." sometimes i get riled up over things. just don't like most of the games offered for xbox 360, and i'm probably bitter because i can't afford one anyway. Wink

V

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you can afford a ps3?
Mar 6, 2006 11:59PM PST

if you can't afford a 360 then why do you want the ps3 to come out? you won't be able to afford that one either, that will most likely be more expensive than the 360.

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right

but at least i have time to save!

V

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Oblivion looks pretty cool...
Mar 17, 2006 1:07AM PST

I'd say that's (Oblivion) the only thing I have really been impressed with though so far. Not really enough to be worth the price of the game AND the box...

yet.

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I have only one issue.
Mar 7, 2006 12:27AM PST

Still haven't found any for sale around here. Our older XBOX is having some DVD reader problems so the 360 is a possibility, but since there are none in the stores I wonder (along with many) if it's real.

My kid tells me that at school (some 1,000s) that there is only one that owns the 360 whereas the PS2 is almost every other kid.

Heck of a way to get market share.

Bob

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MS got lucky
Mar 7, 2006 3:45AM PST

I think the shortage would have killed MS if Sony and Nintendo were able to launch before Q3 or Q4 of this year. People tend to be fiercely loyal to their consoles for some reason, but with almost a year head start I think MS will more than make up for lost ground.

Like Veronica said, it's all about the games, and launch window games are rarely blockbusters. There really aren't any great ones out there yet, but by year end there look to be some pretty sweet titles that should start to show off the system's horsepower. Assuming MS has their supply issues worked out in the next few months, I think we'll see a lot of people buying the 360 who were originally waiting for the PS3.

Mike

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IBM Processor Supply
Mar 7, 2006 4:54AM PST

I heard on the grapevine that IBM was struggling with the supply of the processor at one point - apparently the form factor is leading edge and they were having to heavily screen the parts before shipping them out to the CM for assembly.

Anyone hear if that has been resolved?

- Micah

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Why Get A New Console?
Mar 7, 2006 5:03AM PST

Does Veronica have an hdtv? If not, an Xbox 360 or PS3 just isn't worth it at this point. The Xbox and PS2 still put out good games and the graphics have improved on the games. Just seems as if a new console is not worth it at this point.

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huh - back up a moment....
Mar 7, 2006 5:11AM PST

why do games Console's not come out every 18 months like the rest of the tech industry. That way every three years there would eb something work buying???

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The quick answer
Mar 7, 2006 5:20AM PST

Money... The companies can't make back thier initial R&D investment and early production losses with a 3 year life cycle...

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The idea
Mar 7, 2006 5:46AM PST

The reason for having game consoles is that you have a single, unified, and dedicated device for playing your games on in the living room for a few years. The natural life cycle that has appeared is 5 years. In this time, developers have time to really find every little tweak that they can apply to each console, squeezing every bit of life out of the machines before they are replaced. If you tried having "something worth buying" every 3 years, most people would barely be entering the market for the old machine when you release the new one and hardware utilization wouldn't be accomplished. Besides, how would the developers take to changing platforms so often and having to support so many a time? I don't think it would end up very well at all. Also, when you are on the 5 year cycle, it gives you extra time to figure out and refine the new ideas you plan on introducing to the next generation.

Now what do I have against the 360 (and PS3)? They don't bring anything interesting to the table.

Why do I want to spend so much money on a new box that really only has improvements on the kind of TV that I do not have and cannot afford?

Online stuff? Whatever. Too much focus is being spent on online junk. I'm not saying that it shouldn't exist, but it should be less of a major focus and more of an added feature. I shold also mention that I'm somewhat antisocial, but that's not the topic here.

Microsoft is set on gaining marketshare by competing against Sony as much as possible (even though I think their machines are too expensive).
Sony is set on making the end-all be-all device in your living room, and is facing the consequences of its bleeding-edge tech (high price, delays).
Both of these companies are seeking to refine the industry, hopefully to their liking.
Nintendo wants to change the industry, the way they always have. They are trying to pull in everyone possible. They aren't paying attention to the current market (because if you do, you end up shrinking it), instead aiming to hook people from all walks of life, by competing with software, interactivity, and low price points.
Obviously, I'm favoring the Big N in this case. If nothing else, because I can equate them as the Apple of the gaming industry, and that's fine by me.

Sorry for the insanely long post.

-Ryan