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What's Going on With SP-2? Is it really that horrific?

by wgrayson / September 18, 2004 4:38 AM PDT

I've heard two horror stories from work colleagues about SP2 completely devastating them systems--and they are competent, smart users that don't compute dangerously. I'm checking the site here, and I'm seeing either completely successful installations, or installations of SP2 that have had catastrophic results.

Are there other precautions to take before installing it, or there existing PC configurations or programs that aren't compatible with SP-2? This is amazing that this service pack is generating such havoc on its user base.

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Re: What's Going on With SP-2? Is it really that horrific?
by R. Proffitt Forum moderator / September 18, 2004 4:46 AM PDT

Actually there's a truth here. Those that have trouble will scream the loudest. Those that had no issue don't talk or write much about it.

If a large percentage or even 1% were losing it over SP2, you would see it on the Nightly News.

The havoc from what I'm seeing is not SP2, but the SPYWARE and PARASITES that people allowed on the machines. Since that appears to be true in most cases.... Microsoft has noted it at STEP 3 at

No one that I know of that followed these steps had an issue they didn't have before Sp2.

In closing, if someone "loses it all" then they just got their lesson about BACKUP.


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Re: What's Going on With SP-2? Is it really that horrific?
by wanness / September 19, 2004 5:57 AM PDT

To further clarify Bob's post, 90% of the people that install SP2 on their computers, and do it in the proper manner, will not see any problems associated with SP2. I have it on four different computers, without a problem, but I followed Bob's advice from the get go.

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Re: What's Going on With SP-2? Is it really that horrific?
by John Robie / September 18, 2004 6:49 AM PDT

I do a lot of surfing and from what I have observed, Bob Proffitt is right on.
Seems like SP2 will surely bring out and call attention if something is wrong with your personal home computer. This is a wake up call to many who think their home computer is in good shape.

Course' if you think your home computer is in good shape, do the preload stuff (check Jonah posts on sites) install (I would prefer the CD disk installation) and if problems, remove the installation (couple-3 ways) fix your computer then try again. People think that SP2 broke their computer, but there was something wrong with their computer that caused SP2 to give problems.
It has more than been proven that SP2 will install and operate OK on a 'clean' no problem computer.

Yes, there are some programs that may need adjustment to SP2 and may require patches/fixes from the program originators. MS has also identified some.

I remember when I 1st started using WinXP I had to get patches/fixes for my printer, scanner, and GoBack3 program, plus a lot of my old games would not play with WinXP.

The people that are having problems,and those that are delaying, will eventually install SP2 to get future updates to SP2 as it replaces SP1, and there will naturally be no further updates to SP1. Course' some may just stay with only SP1 from now on, but I personally would not feel safe with the eventual hacking causing more MS updates to security with MS updates to combat.. won't be on the SP1 computer.

There has been no patches/updates to SP2 since I installed Sep 1 with a CD. It seems to me that MS would issue a patch or update on the 'Windows Update' site by now if there was something wrong with the installation on home computers.

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Re: What's Going on With SP-2? Is it really that horrific?
by Tom Aikman / September 18, 2004 6:51 AM PDT

Only one issue here. Lost a custom theme. It was easily corrected and really wasn't a big deal. Turned off the security shield also.
Took about as long as SP1 to download and install. Seems to start up a bit slower but my machine still starts up fast.
Didn't follow any steps. All I did is went to WU and got it over with. It seems if you were having problems before the update, SP2 will make it worse.
Never have had any issues with spyware and likes.


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Re: What's Going on With SP-2? Is it really that horrific?
by Yew / September 18, 2004 8:38 AM PDT

I had a one time problem with a single app, and given that it was one time, I'm not so sure it can be directly traced to SP2.

All in all, it's been pretty uneventful for me every time I install SP2. Even created a slipstreamed install CD, no problems with that.

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(NT) (NT) SP2 Install went Clean&Green w/ increased 'puter speed
by Catgic / September 18, 2004 9:08 AM PDT
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Re: What's Going on --Thanks for all your comments
by wgrayson / September 19, 2004 1:34 AM PDT

Thanks for chiming in. Based on your comments, if you have a relatively secure, clean system to start off with, SP-2 is no problem.

And, having good backups is a must.

So, you've answered my my unasked question: I can probably install SP-2 on my machine, but do some SERIOUS debugging on my wife's laptop because I'm sure it's full of spyware!

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Installed SP 2 Yesterday....
by Larry38 / September 19, 2004 3:01 AM PDT

I used the CD since I have dialup. Made sure to run all security programs and and cleaned and defraged. Nice smooth install in about 20 minutes, so far all seems fine.
But I will still use Firefox 9.3 most of the time.
Good Luck.

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