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Suggest taking a little side trip
over to http://www.jonnyguru.com. One of the best sites for info re PSUs.
You really need to detail the entire system with all the peripherals before any can give an exact PSU for your system. That's all HDDs, CD-DVDs burners, RAM, CPU, CPU, etc.,
There's another thread in PC Hardware where folks are talking about PSUs so that might be another options.
Any questions, I'm usually around.
I have no clue exactly what gateway put in except for a hdd and disk drive. I'm planning to open my computer up with my friend tomorrow, so I'll post what I found, if I find any thing useful. Also, the specs that I gave were the ones for what I want to upgrade to. I have the 3 gb ram that came with it. Basically, I'm going to use the same computer, except 1) Put it in an Antec Nine Hundred case, 2) Get a new PSU, 3) Get a new graphics card, and 4) Get a new motherboard so that I can overclock.
According to the gateway website page for my computer (http://www.gateway.com/systems/product/529668210.php), my hdd is spinning at 7200 rpm. Also, upon reading the fine print at the bottom, gateway says that the power supply can supply 500 watts, no problem, so I just need to decide between the motherboard and graphics card now. So, I guess now my question is which motherboard should I get?
Since this is now which motherboard I should get, I'll just make a new topic. If anyone has anything related to what's been said here other than which motherboard should I get, just post here.
It isn't so much which HDD...it's how many HDDs. Most
peripherals . . . HDDs, opticals, modems, NICs..except video cards and CPUs have the similar power requirements.
# of peripherals
I have 1 hdd and one dvd drive.
Use Enermax or seasonic, they have an array of PSU products they can offer. I suggest you settle to 600-700 watts PSU for your setup.
Good luck man.
I would buy a PSU with 750 - 1000 watt output. I personally like Corsair but there are many good PSU's out there.
I suggest you buy from trusted or long time PSU brands. It's alright to settle in the 700W range but always prioritize Quality over Quantity.
Some PSUs do have high Watt rating but don't deliver on specs. Watch out for those.
Ok...tell me why you picked it
I had seen a review of it on guru3d.com, and I had heard about OCZ. Plus, the psu gateway put in my computer isn't modular, while this one is, so I won't have as many (if any) extra wires.
How long is the warranty ? How many AMPs on the 12V line ?
Suggest doing some reading about that PSU over at http://www.Newegg.com
They've got the same model, same rebate and a 4GB FLASH drive. The good thing is you can read real buyer comments about the product.
Re modular ... I'm old fashioned as I prefer to avoid the extra connectors and possible points of failure. The extra connectors if any...I just tie them off out of the way with tie wraps.
Let us know what you find.
Details, details, lol
So far so good...my only other question is does the PSU
have enough connectors to support the proposed peripherals ...esp the video card ?
Attention to detail in the planning stage will help ensure a smooth assembly and successful build.
I think so
I'm not exactly sure, as it is my first time upgrading/building a computer. I do know that there is a 6 + 2 pin on 1st 25V rail and a 6 pin on the other 25V rail. The 5850 takes 2 6-pin connectors. I have no clue about the other stuff.
Only problem I see ...OCZ600MXSP ModXStream Pro 600
doesn't give you much headroom over the min GPU requirement and it only has one 6 pin power connector for the GPU.
For those reasons I'd strongly recommend looking for another PSU with the required number of 6-pin power connectors and perhaps 650-700W (or higher if the budget permits) .. here's a good starting point for the search. You can use the Advanced search to further narrow down the candidates.
What you've picked will work as will almost any new PSU.
However if you're building a high-end system that you're going to be overclocking with a power hungry GPU and potentially adding more peripherals than currently listed, a PSU with a little more headroom, stability, reliability and better specs is the better way to go.
For those reasons I recommend something close in terms of output from one of the product lines I buy. The difference is more headroom, a 2 year longer warranty, high efficiency and 120 more watts on the 12V line.
CORSAIR CMPSU-650TX 650W ATX12V/EPS12V SLI Ready CrossFire Ready 80 PLUS Certified Active PFC Compatible with Core i7 ... - Retail
* Fans: Thermally controlled 120mm fan
* Main Connector: 20+4Pin
* +12V Rails: Single
* PCI-Express Connector: 2 x 6+2-Pin
* SATA Power Connector: 8
* Efficiency: > 80%
* Over Voltage Protection: Yes
* Input Voltage: 100 - 240 V
* Model #: CMPSU-650TX
* Item #: N82E16817139005
Corsair 650W Max Combined Wattage 5 Yr warranty 624W 12V with 52AMPs on one 12V rail
OCZ 600W Max Combined Wattage 3 Yr warranty 504w 12V with 50AMPs split on 2-12V rails
Wishing you success on your build.
PS .. It makes sense to ask for advice when you're short on knowledge, real experience or both. Here's hoping you're smart enough to take advantage of the advice . . otherwise, why ask ?
I see what you mean, but with that psu, you mentioned only 1 12V rail. Doesn't the ATI Radeon HD5850 need 2 of those? It needs two 6 pin connectors.
I double checked the mfg specs and both PSUs have
2-6 pin GPU power connectors.
The Corsair has 2-6 pin GPU connectors the OCZ PSU has 2-6 pin connectors with one noted as '6 + 2'. The key difference for users is the 120W gain on the 12V line and the 5 year vs 3 year warranty.
Where do you see the HD5850 requires two 12V rails ?
I'd say YES. But if you look at the AMD Certified PSUs
for one GPU at the first link below, the TX650W Corsair is only listed for up to the 4870X2 (dual GPUs on one card) and I was not able to find the OCZ model (MOD STREAM 600) you selected at all.
Not sure whether the cards we spoke about weren't tested with the 5850/5870 or not. It does show the TX750W as suppporting Radeon? HD 5870 & 5850
Take a look ...let me know what you see.
I was considering a corsair psu before, and this looks better than the other one. Thanks!
If you're jumping to the Corsair TX750W or
anything at net cost $109.99....take a look at the Corsair TX850W. At Newegg.com, the TW850X ($139.99-$30.00) and the TW750W ($109.99-$10.00) are is the same price shipped $109.99 after the rebate.
I think the only way I would consider the 750-watt psu is if I decide in the future to use crossfire, as I don't think that my system would max out anywhere near 650 watts. Do you know how many 6-pin connectors the 750-watt psu has?
So, it isn't AMD certified, but it does have enough 6-pin connectors to support crossfire. Does it matter if it isn't certified by AMD? I know this may sound like a dumb question, but does that mean AMD won't honor the warranty if anything happens, or does that mean that the card will refuse to run or some other stupid, silly thing like that?
The Corsair PSU says it's Crossfire Certified however it
only has 2 - 6 pin PCIe connectors. The thing you would need to do is test whatever card you get right away and return it if it doesn't work. The only issue is if you start with a 5850 and you want Crossfire...you'll have to add another 5850 to match it. You could probably get a cable adapter but that might really push the 650.
You'll have to make the call from here.
Thanks! I think you've answered all my psu questions. The last thing that'd I'd like to ask is, where/how can I learn to build/upgrade a computer?
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