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What is the best tool for converting LP's to CD or MP3?

Jan 6, 2005 10:36PM PST

I am in the process of converting some of my old LP's to a digital format. I am currently using Blaze Audio's Rip Edit Burn. It works okay, but it is very time consuming.
One of the main problems is that I have to separate the tracks manually. Supposedly there are other tools that can automatically break up a long wave file into tracks.

A second issue is that I am not sure what level of input is best to avoid to much post processing. I am feeding the input from my stereo reciever and have been experimenting by adjusting the recording level. If it is too high it seems to add distortion to the wave file because of clipping. If it is too low I am not sure I get full sound quality. I have options I don't fully understand like normalization.

There is a digital record cleaner option that attempts to remove clicks, pops, hum, static hiss, and noise, but can also ruin sound quality if not used correctly.

I am wondering if anyone can recommend a better tool or give me hints on handling my existing tool better.

I want to convert my old LP's for which there seem to be no available CD's, possibly converting some tapes too.

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First..there's nothing 100% perfect.
Jan 7, 2005 2:36AM PST

Now with that out of the way; I personally use "clean audio lab (couple years dated)". The newest version is "clean audio lab 2005". I do track recognition manually (about 5 to 15 at most for a record). I like this program because the sound patterns are visually displayed so that you can recognize a break very quickly.

The best output would be from "rec. out" on the reciever/amplifier/tape deck.

As for cleaning the noise, all I can say is do the best that it can (a noisy record is a noisy cd); I don't think there's any way out unless you want to spend lots of money (if there is such program available). Have fun!

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MUSIC FILE CONVERSION
Jan 7, 2005 4:11AM PST

I AM USING WINDOWS (D.M.E} WINDOWS DIGITAL MEDIA EDITION, SUB PROGRAM:- ANALOGUE RECORDER.
THIS WORKS FINE FOR TRANSFERING ANALOGUE CASSETTES & VINLY TO THE PC WMA FORMAT. THEN BURNING TO CD.
MY PROBLEM ARISES, THAT I CANT REFORMAT TO MP3 , HAS ANY ONE ANY IDEAS ON THIS PROBLEM

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(NT) (NT) Have a look at Goldwave.
Jan 7, 2005 4:35AM PST
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Re: transferring lps and cassettes
Jan 12, 2005 9:18PM PST

I have a similar desire. Right now, I need a turntable.
Most units I've seen only have headphone output jacks.
So, how would one run a cable from headphone jack into
I presume a sound card with recording capability...

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turntable
Jan 17, 2005 5:14PM PST

You must be looking at some kind of dj table. Any regular table has the red and white audio out jacks. Sony makes a decent turntable that retails for about 79 bucks. Get a Y adapter cable from radio shack, run lines from the turntable to the adapter and plug the adapter's jack in to the audio line in on the back of your computer.

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Take a good look at...
Feb 6, 2005 10:38AM PST

this system...
http://www.dak.com/Reviews/2020Story.cfm#p3

I discovered this link a couple of weeks ago and after reading all about it, I ordered the complete unit (T/Table, Mixer and Equalizer program). I have been looking on this forum for the original post for the last 2 weeks,that gave this link, but have not been able to locate it. I hope to receive this product by the middle of this week(Feb.9 or 10th.) & will be posting back here to give my reviews and/or thoughts. I already had a turntable, but would have had to use the headphone out to sound card, NOT good. Oh! One more thing, you can download the software right after buying and I screwed up and lost the site giving my unlocking code and this was about 10PM. I sent email right away explaining my problem and they answered within 15 minutes giving me all the info again. So far, GOOD SUPPORT!

If anyone else on these CNet Forums has more information on this system, please post here.
Aloha & Mahalo to all,
RJ the Haole

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DAK equipment
Mar 10, 2005 2:19AM PST

Have you received the equipment & does it work as advertised? I ordered last week but was just sent a responde to inquiry that the equip is backordered and will not ship until next week. Is this a legit seller?

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Hi Rpecha, I have...
Mar 22, 2005 7:28AM PST

received my equipment. And it does work as advertised. I was a little put out with the company when it came to shipping and not answering my questions untill I became irate and demanded they tell me the ship date and where from. I was led to beleive it was coming from Calif. because of the ad. Mine came out of New York in about 10 days via USPS, however I do live in Hawaii, so it took longer. In the long run it was a great deal as they did not charge me the actual freight of $41.00, only $18.00. So my only problem was not answering me as to when shipped and how.

The programs work well also,especially the De Popper, but I do have trouble following Dak's instuctions, due to all the bull cr** in between. Have you ever read any of the books for dummies? Just get to the point. I would give the equipment A+ and software a B, because of the instructions. I Also like Nero 6 from begining to end.
Hope this helps.
RJ

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Get adapter
Jan 20, 2005 9:56PM PST

Use the headphone output jack with an adapter. In everything I've read it's best to use the processed signal from a stereo then the direct output from the turntable. The stereo circuitry will remove a lot of hisses and pops and you can control the sound level thru the stereo volume and balance controls.

Creative sells adapter cables for use with it's soundblaster cards, relatively cheap too.

C/Net did an entire article on the process about two months ago. It should be in their archives. They recommend GoldWave.

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Re: transferring lps and cassettes
Feb 16, 2005 6:34AM PST

You need a turntable and a pre-amp. Records are recorded with RIAA EQ. so they MUST be played back with the correct EQ to sound good. So and old stero pre-amp, a reciver with phono inputs or you can get a small phono preamp at electronics or music stores. John

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no easy answer
Jan 17, 2005 5:32PM PST

Right now I'm using Sonic Studio that came installed on my sony. It allows me to set a recording level before I start to record, and I can monitor it during the recording. It also automatically sets track marks but this isn't always great. Sometimes silence is mistaken for the end of a track. But it can be fixed. I use the cleaning option to remove clicks and pops. The best thing to do is clean the record before you record with something like Groovey Cleaner and a good brush. The better a record sounds as it's being recorded the less work you have to do when it's done. I don't know if it makes any difference, but I use a stand alone phono preamp between the table and the computer. The one program that to me really sucks is Soundstage that comes with the deluxe version of Easy CD Creator. Avoid it at all costs. But no matter what you choose it's time consuming. Good luck. One last thing. I've found that normalization is a good tool when you record from a couple of different lps. It tries to keep everything at more or less the same level.

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Goldwave
Jan 18, 2005 6:42AM PST

Goldwave 5.0 has all the necessary features, recording, encoding, and editing. I've used some version for 3 years and nothing else that I've tried works as well.
It uses the lame encoder, which is the fastest available.
The editing features everything imaginable. The pop/click removal is tweakable and works great on those old scratcy recordings. I believe there is still a shareware version that you can try.
http://www.goldwave.com

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Welll.... since you asked....
Feb 11, 2005 6:12AM PST

Assuming you have good hardware and clean your records thoroughly before recording...

It still won't be perfect. In fact the transfer to digital makes the click, crackle, pop and hiss as well as plain old noise seem even more apparent.

I use Sound Forge 7.0a with the Noise Reduction plugin for recording and cleanup. I then use CD Architect 5.0 for burning. Really nice professional tools but you had best have a thick billfold.

There are others out there that many prefer. You can get many of them on a trial basis (recommended). Be aware the more powerful, and often better, software tools have a larger learning curve.

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re: What is the best tool for converting LP's to CD or MP3?
Feb 17, 2005 9:03PM PST

A very good program would be from Polderbits.com, a Euro outfit that makes a program that will separate tracks for you as long as there is about 2 secs between them on the vinyl. Unlimited full use for 2 weeks and then you need to buy it. I have used it for my cassettes, but will work from any source with a Y-cable.

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Music Conversion Suite
Aug 23, 2005 1:20AM PDT

This is the best conversion app I have come across. You can get it at www.pdblake.com(I think). It works very weel, does the usually auto detect of the gab betweens tracks but there is an auto cut feature so you can tell it where to stop and start yourself.

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I use DAK
Feb 25, 2005 7:11AM PST

I have found that the DAK editing tool works very well. I record an entire side and then zoom in and place markers at the beginning and end of each song. I then write it to hard disk and delete the silent gaps.

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DAK best for editing & converting LP's & Casettes to Digital
Mar 25, 2005 8:27AM PST

Not only is the price reasonable, the tutorials are very explicit and provide great direction, the service is FAST and reliable, and they respond in an instant with tech support questions (if you have any) even on weekends. They also give you a phone number where a real person answers. The DAK software also removes all scratch noises from LP's and removes all hiss from tapes. Since I bought the entire mixing package at a great price, I got the equalizer for next to nothing which makes your converted items sound much better than the originals in addition to removing scratches and hiss.

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what is the simplest tool to buy to converting lps to cds
Sep 14, 2009 1:46AM PDT

I need the simplest way to convert my lps to cds.