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What if Global Warming isn't real...

I just saw a few global warming posts lately that have my panties in a bunch.
So in response:

Dear Global Warming activists,
It's freezing in Ohio, it's colder than it was last year, which was colder than it was the year before. Our summer was mild, and so far this year there was even snow in your precious state of California. So what the cold-hell is this global warming nonsense. Do people get refunds for carbon credits? And if global warming is happening and humans are powerless to stop it, why, doesn't that mean my homegrown organic plants will grow better, my house will need less gas/oil to heat, I don't have to travel to Florida to get sun saving gas/oil, I would be able to ride my bike all year long. Increased plant life will sustain population growth in the northern territories. There would be more vineyards for more wine. Ohio girls will be tanner. The great Lakes will be a tourist destination for Saskatchewan... Come on activists, it's time to face the facts that humans may not have caused the slight temp increase over the last few decades, and perhaps, natural global warming is better than what it feels like we're getting, cold cold cold and colder!
Love,
Northeast Ohio.

That concludes my letter, now, what would you rather have, global warming, or global cooling? Would you rather have more matinees or more polar bears. More trees, or more icecaps? Or do you think I'm completely daft? What's a prettier place, New York, NY, or Venice, Italy? Don't get me wrong, I'm all for energy conservation, I'm just pointing out the obvious, it's cold up here, no one likes being cold. There is less abundance of life in cold places than there is in warm places.

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Actually

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Global warming can indeed cause it to actually be colder in Europe and North America. Distruption to the ocean currents that move warm water from the equitor. I could give you a link, but on iPhone and no copy and paste.

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well actually

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I have heard of a theory about this. However I heard it as an explanation for the little ice age. Which happened before the industrial revolution, so it kinda proves my point. Send me that link when you get a chance. As satirical as I like to appear, I'm a sucker for some good facts. Anyway the way I heard it was during a warming period the water on top of the ocean is colder, it rotates, under water to create a current. Soon it gets too warm and the ice caps melt and restore the process and it all starts over again. Someone help me out here, I haven't seen it in a while

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maybe this

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I remember, During a warming period, the polar icecap like the ones over Greenland melt, this causes the water on the surface of the ocean in the north atlantic to get colder where it's usually warmer, thus halting the natural flow of the gulf stream. Therefore the temperature plunges and the ice caps build up again in an mini ice age, and repeat.

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ZOMG GLOBAL WARMING ACTIVISTS!

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THE WATER IS RISING! THE WATER IS RISING! CAPS LOCK!!!!

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growing pains, it's all like growning pains...

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just as the geo-socio-economic-political dynamics of the world have been going to extremes or pushing their boundaries in the last decade, so is the climate. It's all growing pains toward some new normal.

Hotter hots, colder colds, wetter wets, dryer drys, etc. What I think that the most underated points of data to monitor may be the overall oxygen from 0-5 miles up above sea level, moisture/humidity distribution and how they've changed, and methane emissions.

--S

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Here

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It's real. I have proof.

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Melting polar caps

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alternate questions

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Hey what if the IPCC (the UN's panel on climate change) was made up mostly of politicians instead of scientists? What if the earth temperature recorders have been compromised? What if changes in carbon dioxide levels never, in all of recorded estimates, ever led to changes in temperatures? Would we still think there is global warming?

Well, the IPCC is mostly made up of politicians, the temperature recorders have been painted and surrounded by unintended items (including incinerators), and CO2 has never led temperature changes (at times lagging behind temperature changes as much as 300 years).

There is so much we don't know about our climate, why should we expect catastrophe over what is known given what we do not know?

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Carlin

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(NT) ahhh yes... - grin...BIG grin ;)

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Yep

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It's not the Earth's problem.
It's our problem!
He says it perfectly.

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Carbon dioxide..

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Is well known to affect temperatures. It's known to be responsible for the high temperatures in Venus, 461C. And keeps Mars up to as 'warm' as -5C in spite of it's thin, but mostly carbon dioxide atmosphere.

Increases in carbon dioxide are known to be causes of mass extinctions in Earth's past, created from natural causes.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paleocene-Eocene_Thermal_Maximum
"The event saw global temperatures rise by around 6

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IT IS REAL

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IT IS REAL BUT IT MIGHT BE PART OF HOW OUR PLANET WILL EVOLVE

THEY SAY THE COWS CAUSE MORE GLOBAL WARMING THEN CARS

SO IF THAT TRUE THEN WE CAN ALL DRIVE IN ELECTRIC CARS BUT WERE STILL GOING TO GLOBAL WARMING

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Yep

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What if Global Warming isn't real...

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It isn't at all it is a hoax made up by Al Gore since he didn't win the presidency at all.

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I'm not convinced.

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It's hard to separate the politics out of this issue, but what gets me most is that when dealing with geological time, our frame of reference about cooling/warming cycles seem to be quite limited.

I do know that winters were a lot colder/snowier when I was a kid than they are today, although that seems to be changing. But again, that's a very, very short time period in the grand scheme of things.

All of that said, one thing is clear: It just makes sense that we should do our level best to limit the amount of pollutants in our environment.

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