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What can't a celeron do versus other pentium 4s

Dec 15, 2004 2:01AM PST

I don't know the difference between the new Celeron CPUs and the Pentium 4s. Anybody know, or point to a website?

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athlon XP 2800
Jan 22, 2005 10:01AM PST

I have one of those in a whitebox custom built. it's sitting in the floor taking up space cuz it keeps overheating and shutting down. my P4 in a HP is chugging along and doesn't even kick the fan into high speed unless I run 2 or 3 programs at the same time.

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Celeron versus P4
Dec 17, 2004 5:36AM PST

is similar to AMD Duron to XP types
Cheaper version CPU missing some of the Full instructions
Like SSE only on Full versions,All have MMX now,
asto when this makes a big difference,
Programs wise, Video encoding,it makes a big difference
Duron/Celeron will get it done but take longer Time
for General stuff Browsing Web,emails etc,
it will make no noticeable difference,
its only programs that use SSE instructions that need
AMD XP types & P4,
hope this helps Retired techie Keith xxx

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Re: What can't a celeron do versus other pentium 4s
Dec 17, 2004 6:01AM PST

The simplifiled difference between them, is this. The celeron has less instruction sets than the pentium does. what that means is when your doing video editing and gaming and such things like that, the pentium uses thoes instruction sets to HELP the processsor by doing video processing quicker. Its like haveing a math table next to you to help you with a math problem vrs working it all out the long way on paper. The other main difference to the celeron and the pentium is that the pentium has more cache. The best comparitive to cache is if you have a desk and you have a bigger TODO stack sometimes its just easyer to do your work. its the holding point coming from the memory but right before the processor. So It's not what the celeron CAN'T do, its how well and efficent the pentium does it better. If all your doing is internet, word processing, some music playing and you have no plans for photo or video editing or dvd watchig then I would stick with a celeron.

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Pentium 4 vs. Celeron
Dec 17, 2004 6:03AM PST

This is right off the intel website.

The Intel

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Celerons SUCK!
Dec 17, 2004 11:22AM PST

Do yourself a favor and DON"T BUY A CELERON! Their graphics processing is SLOW! I've used a P4 and a celeron
at the same processing speed and the P4 runs great. The celeron gets bogged down every time it has to handle more than one job; especially if it's integrated graphics. Even if you don't think that you need the processing power of a P4, you'll enjoy clicking on something and getting something done right away, versus waiting for the celeron to do it. Also, don't limit yourself to a P4. AMD athalons are great! But here too - don't buy a duron. I'm not sure about the semperon that they're trying to sell now but I'd steer clear of it until the reveiws come in.

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What can't a celeron do versus other pentium 4s
Dec 17, 2004 5:41PM PST

A few other points to remember is
1 Motherbord speed ie FSB and memory speed
2 Memmory speed MHz
3 Hard drive speed

It seems to me that the machine run at the speed of the slowest component.

Hope this help

Frik

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Celeron vs. Pentium 4
Dec 18, 2004 12:18AM PST

This is just my understanding of the difference, and I may be completely wrong, but I think Pentium 4's have something called "hyper-threading" which Celeron does not.
I think the difference is that the Pentium 4's can run multiple programs in parallel (at the same time) without any, or very little, decrease in the speed of the PC. I this is wrong, I am sure someone will be only too happy to correct me! Why don't you go to www.intel.com and ask them?

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Celeron vs P4
Dec 18, 2004 5:57AM PST

No comparison, Celeron stared out as a pice of junk and eventualy exelerated to a "extended pice of junk" but it's still a pice of junk. Bottom line, don't vaste your money on it.Future more, if I wher you I sincerely whold think about moving ower to 64-bit computing and forget about Intel all together and move over to AMD Athlon 64 FX 53. Kick *** computing for "mortal" peopel.

"The Legacy Guru"

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Celeron vs P4
Dec 19, 2004 12:09AM PST

First of all the Celeron is not new, just redesigned. The Celeron processor predates the Pentium 4 by a couple of years. Both chips are made by Intel and if you need technical and/or consumer information on them I suggest you goto this site, http://www.intel.com/products/processor/index.htm. The differences between the two would be like imagining the Celeron as an inexpensive subcompact and the Pentium 4 as an expensive luxury sedan or sports car. Both are good chips, but the Celeron does not have the same processing power as the P4 even if you ran both at the same speed, i.e. 2.0GHz. If you want to compare chipsets between two different manufacturers then you might want to look at AMD?s website (Intel?s major competitor), http://www.amd.com/us-en/Processors/ProductInformation/0,,30_118,00.html, next.
Hope this helps answer your question.

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What can't a celeron do versus other pentium 4s
Dec 19, 2004 10:38AM PST
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It's funny to hear I'm wrong from someone who says I'm right
Dec 19, 2004 11:51AM PST

I may not have known the entire difference between P4 and celeron but according to animal17 I was wrong then he goes on to say that it just wasn't the whole reason. I never said I knew the entire reason I just stated my understanding of it. If this post seems arguementative I apologize I just don't understand how i was wrong if it just wasn't the whole story!

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Go to PCstats.com
Dec 21, 2004 10:33AM PST

Go to PCstats.com

or go to google.com nad type pcstat

hope you you find your answer there.

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Celeron is a processor w/out math co-processor
Dec 21, 2004 10:42AM PST

in the old days Celeron is a processor w/out math co-processor, it's a chip circuit embeded into the processor that do some advance mathematical calculation that could speed up the function of the software.

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Rainero, That's NOT The Case Now
Dec 21, 2004 12:45PM PST

....and hasn't been for quite some time...Starting with the Celeron's in the 600 Mhz range, they have all had math coprocessors. As an example, See the specs for the Celeron 633 mghz HERE At the bottom of the specifications, you'll see that there is an integrated math coprocessor.

And here's a link to one similar to the one I have on my current home computer:

CELERON 478PIN 2.6GHZ 400FSB 128K BOXED

Granted, the Cleron processor isn't as fast as a P4, but the major reason is the FSB and L2 cache.

Hope this helps.

Grif

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Celeron vs Pentium4
Dec 21, 2004 4:21PM PST

Thanks for the info

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Actually the main difference is...
Dec 23, 2004 4:09PM PST

The two main differences that I am aware of between the modern Celerons and the Pentium 4 is the size of the L2 cache and the speed of the Frontside Bus. The Pentium 4 has a larger L2 Cache usually and the current Pentium 4's have an 800 MHz FSB compared to a 400 MHz FSB for the latest celerons. These are not the only factors to consider when building or buying a computer though. The speed of the chipset on the system board also makes a big difference. You need to do your research on the available system boards and chipsets if you are looking for the fastest system available. Also the new AMD CPU's with 64 bit vs 32 bit Intel CPU's are much faster for game systems from what I am hearing.

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Simplifiing the whole thing.Is this possible?
Jan 2, 2005 3:18PM PST

hey to know the whole thing about the difference between the two i dont have time to read all the messages(not only me may be many people dont have time to read the whole set of messages).
So i request you(whom so ever it may be concerned) to give the answer of this question in only one or 2 messages .
this request is not only for this forum topic .I request this should be done in every other forum topics.

from
a not so loved member of this web site
Ram

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(NT) (NT) no time to learn?
Jan 2, 2005 7:22PM PST
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Sorry Ram, That's What A Forum Is All About...
Jan 3, 2005 1:05AM PST

Each of us has a different opinion and only YOU can interpret the information by reading the posts.

Personally, I don't want ANYONE telling me what is right or wrong, good or bad...I read, I learn, I accept other's opinions, then I make my own decisions..It may take a little work but I am the better for it. It's an investment in yourself.

Make the investment, you'll be better too.

Hope this helps.

Grif

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Simplifing.
Jan 11, 2005 5:41AM PST

I agree with Gib & Grif.

My simplifing just for you....
You get what you pay for.. want increased performance (including high tech gaming) don't get a Celeron or Duron. Spend a few dollars more and get a Pentium 4 or
AMD Athalon.

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Celeron won't run drafting program
Jan 13, 2005 11:19PM PST

two of my drafting employees were cautioned by their instuctor that AutoCad, etc, would not run on Celeron.
He was right. Unknowing, I tried to install AutoSketch on a Celeron computer; got frustrated; and was finally enlightened by one of the guys about that particular processor. Try AMD if you want an alternative to P4; they cook!