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What am I doing wrong with Nero?

Aug 23, 2005 12:27AM PDT

I have movie files....either copied from vcr old movie tapes to pc or home vcr tapes, so it doesn't matter which I mess with.

The files are in .avi format that should be able to burn easily to dvd; however what happens is this.

I have a separate partition that is NTFS (XP Pro legit version), 85GB in size.

When I start up Nero (legit version) it needs a temporary holding tank for the 'conversion' crap to go to the harddrive for the .vob files it apparently uses then to burn the dvd at the end of the road.

Every single time this does this 'encoding' or whatever, it will get near the end of the files that it's accumulating and I get a 'harddrive is out of space, free up files, and try again' error.

The partition is EMPTY......and I can't for the life of me figure out where in the configuration settings I can do away with menus AND credits (only an option to not have menus, but it also shows that it is adding its own and assuming it's actually the TOC), and why in the world does it take up the ENTIRE 85GB of the drive space when the .avi file is no larger than 700MB to begin with?

I wind up going back to EZCD every time in order to accomplish what I want and it makes NO sense to me why Nero doesn't work for me when it seems to work for everybody else on the planet.

Can somebody give me some clues? I've been all though the stupid help files and can't find anything even remotely coming close to helping me solve this problem. I've had Nero installed now for nearly a year and I've never been able to use it for anything. I'm not stupid and usually am really good at troubleshooting, but this program has me really ticked off.

TONI

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2 things.
Aug 23, 2005 12:43AM PDT

If there are ANY FAT32 volumes, the 4GB filesize limit might be hit.

Nero is new at this game. I use Ulead's stuff without issue. I have no cure for Nero's woes. Some write that DVDSANTA does this with ease as well. Demos are available from respective sites.

Bob

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Caching off?
Aug 23, 2005 9:04AM PDT

When you get to the New Compilation dialog, try going to the Misc tab and un-checking "Cache files from disk and network".

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No such thing.........
Aug 23, 2005 10:42AM PDT

I've looked in all the details buttons, settings, configurations, and burning/recording options and I've never seen anything like a 'new compilation' window anywhere.

However, with all the time I've actually played with this deluxe version of Nero, I never realized that I have been messing with Nero Express and not Nero Burning ROM.......which is exactly where I found what you were talking about.

The only shortcut that ever came up during the installation was the Express icon and it wasn't until I went into Start/Programs/Nero just now that I spotted a WHOLE NEW burning program that I just didn't know even existed. Even reading the damn instruction manual previously to 'trouble shoot' didn't 'light the dawn' for me.

I'm a duhhhh.....and will play with the NEW program that you helped me discover and see if Express has been the problem all along.

I'm not sure if I have to go to Ahead and get a free update for this program or not because when I went to open it, I got a message that my version isn't compatible with XP and to head to their site. If it's free to update it, no problem, but I'm not paying again for something that's taken me a year to never burn anything with......until you came along to possibly help me realize this.

TONI

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Nero Burning Rom
Aug 23, 2005 9:47PM PDT

Nero 5.0 and 6.0 are compatible with XP. Frankly I don't know why Ahead bothers with Express and I have Nero 5.0 which is a good program for all data classes of copying and have never used Express.

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Toni
Aug 24, 2005 6:59AM PDT

Did you get it working? I had all kinds of problems when
I finally switched to XP Home concerning Nero. Burned stacks of coasters. Only had 1 in the 3 years before that. I finally jumped through a lot of hoops to get it working. Nero was totally mute. The short answer is: Totally uninstall Nero, reinstall your OEM Nero, then the latest update-6.6.0.16-no other updates in between. That is the only one that is totally compatible with XP. I reformatted and reinstalled XP before doing this for other reasons (changing hard drives). I only installed the first 2 parts of the OEM (6.3.17) and the update. Those would Burning Rom and Vision Express. Anyone who even installs a packet burning program like InCd or DirectCd gets no sympathy from me. I use Express and it works like a champ(like it always has before). DVDShrink is now working correctly again, too. Thanks for all the help in the past. chuck

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Catch 22....Nero is a joke and getting dumped
Aug 24, 2005 7:52AM PDT

According to help......avi files are only going to be seen by Nero as VCD/SVCD types. However, each one would have to be edited to manually remove beginning menus and ending credits for the vcr types I have in order to have them fit on the cd, and even that's a maybe. Using the burning ROM program, it won't recognize the format .avi at all so that's useless.

Again tried using Express...but instead of a direct burn tried to create an ISO type or VOB file project and again got the error that my NTFS drive of 85GB ran out of room when I had supposedly about ten minutes to go. Tried to create a project to that drive thinking burning ROM would then be able to burn it since it won't see an .avi file to burn it to DVD instead of VCD/SVCD.

Went through the process of trying to burn it as a VCD/SVCD file in the burning ROM program instead.....got through all the setup/configuration crap, including unchecking 'write to drive cache' thing mentioned above by somebody else under MISC, and as soon as I chose the darn .avi file from the folder, got a message 'unexpected format' or 'unexpected file type'.

What a freaking joke.......I'm outta here.....Nero will sit and gather dust on the shelf. I'm back to EZCD 6 Platinum and will try the demo of DVDSanta after uninstalling this monied wasted piece of crap.

TONI

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Update....wonderful little program
Aug 24, 2005 10:06AM PDT

DVDSanta is absolutely the best thing since sliced bread and the invention of chocolate candy.

It has done everything I've been needing....small download, simple to use, doesn't give error messages during encoding going to that NTFS drive, accepts .avi files without skipping a beat, and burned immediately if that's what I want or I could have left the file it created on my harddrive to burn it later on.

Took about and hour and ten minutes for a 730MB .avi file which would have been the same with EZCD 6 Platinum's encoding time, but never balked and the dvd burned perfectly.

It also includes automatic default compression and overburning if necessary......haven't pushed that to see what its limits might be though. It also does vcd/svcd if I'm reading it correctly and will be checking that out.

Well worth paying for................

Thanks, Robert, for mentioning this one...

TONI

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Converts all .avi to DVD
Aug 24, 2005 10:27AM PDT

even VCD/SVCD .avi files.......so it does it all.

Neato.........

TONI

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Seems odd that Nero or other company didn't ...
Aug 24, 2005 11:02AM PDT

Snatch them up and save themselves a lot of work.

Bob

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In case you guys are interested
Aug 25, 2005 5:36AM PDT

I kept this text file for the error when asked if I wanted to save it. Even though this error is vague enough to say 'no room on the disk' it doesn't identify which disk......the dvd disk or the harddrive partition. It's almost immediately after this error though that windows pops up with a balloon in the taskbar letting me know that the K: drive (the NTFS partition) is out of space and I should delete files on it to make more room....so I have been under the assumption all along that the Nero error is also referring to that partition. If anybody can make heads or tails out of following, I would appreciate at least being able to understand what kept happening with Nero's program that I never encounter with EZCD or DVDSanta (which works better than EZCD even did since many times I was forced to split my .avi files in half in order to fit the movies on two disks instead of one; whereas DVDSanta had no issues with this area and got each .avi file onto one disk every time I've used it since yesterday).

##########################################################################################
ERROR:
cause: 58 (disk_full)
source: _VOBS
description: There is not enough space on the disk.


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DumpExceptionInformation(): Caught SEH Exception 0xe06d7363 during encoding
DumpExceptionInformation(): Exception was raised from C:\WINDOWS\system32\kernel32.dll at RVA 0x0001eb33

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ERROR:
cause: 128 (nmc_processing_exception)
source: _VOBS:GrinoGuardedProcessing ()
description: Exception during encoding
##########################################################################################

***END: _VOBS - Process VOB
***END: _VOBS - Process Create
***END: _DVDBase - Create VTS
DVDENGINE exception caught.
***END: DVDVideoSessionImpl - GetDiscContent
***BEGIN: DVDSessionBase - RegisterCallback
...Session callback unregistered...
***END: DVDSessionBase - RegisterCallback

TONI

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RE: Nero Problem
Aug 26, 2005 12:11AM PDT

A DVD usually is about 4GB in size, if that other partition bigger than 4GB?

I dont usually use NERO to convert my video files, I do it myself using WINAVI Video Convertor. This is a small piece of software which allows you to convert many different video formats to many other video formats (including AVI to DVD). Once you convert with WinAVI, then go to Nero and burn the DVD files to disk (there is 2 folders to burn; AUDIO and VIDEO)

I have always found the Nero encoder to be unreliable and slow.

I hope this helps