What a prince Michael Schiavo is :-(

profoundly sad here is that this persons' life and death, and the private lives of her family (both sides) have been splashed all over the media (including here in SE), and brought into governmental review and action, as if anyone outside of Terri, her husband, and her immediate family had anything whatsoever to do with it.

You can dam* well bet that there will be a book and a movie about it soon ... probably several.

It's a shame

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My husband was not in a PVT, but I nor anyone else in the family would have released videos and photographs of him!

My prayers are also with both of the families. I hope that no attacks are made on their lives. The reward offered for killing Michael and the threats on others in the Shiavo were chilling.

Angeline


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... because they thought if people could just see their daughter, the madness of this singular judge could be stopped, or at least someone might take a closer look. Can you really blame them? I don't think they ever intended it to be played over and over -- that was the media running with the ball. Think about it ... that video is ten years old (I believe) had you seen it before this final gasp? I think they thought they would get through to enough people years ago that they would be allowed to care for their own flesh and blood daughter. How can anyone justify denying that in the absence of any real indication of her wishes otherwise. Sorry, but I don't see how anyone can think a man sitting on over $1mil, sleeping with another woman, suddenly remembering some off the cuff comment years after the fact, has any credibility.

What was really chilling was the Schiavo attorney Felos giving the blow by blow of her death by starvation. All of a sudden, Terri's privacy didn't mean a dang to him ... like it ever did.

Evie

how old are they now???

The results were unduplicateable.

It may have seemed Terri responded to stimuli in the videos the were never able to duplicate such a response.

Her eyes never followed a balloon, she never smiled at her mother, she never duplicated any "emotional" or any other response.

... but inconsistent. Does that mean she is better able to connect some times rather than others? The diagnosis of "minimally conscious state" -- which is not PVS, and had HUGE implications in this case -- should have been determined before her death. Heck, even a "final CAT scan" would have been nice. Not a huge deal. My husband took a tumble and whacked his head on the concrete last weekend. In the time it took me to go out of ER to update our family and come back, the scan was done. Why NOT do the PET scan and swallowing test? If she's PVS, the results would have confirmed this without a shadow of a doubt.

took care of her said that she did indeed respond. How do you know she didn't?

involved because...

The media whipped this up more than it should have, but the courts didn't give enough protection to parents' rights, especially in this case where the "former" husband is for all intents and purposes married to another, lacking such only in official documentation.

The courts could have preserved whatever right Mike had to make the decision concerning the ending of life support without allowing him the legal ability to determine when the parents could visit their own daughter, or have tests done at their own expense.

I think this all would have ended years ago in the same manner of the Cruzan case, if the parents had been the ones given the right to make the decision, instead of it becoming a contest of wills between them and the "husband".

never any reason to remove Terri from her husband's guardianship. The courts are only at fault for allowing her parents to continue filing.

Dan

Just lack of a paper doesn't keep it from being bigamy. They've prosecuted Mormons before who had a legal wife and then also had a second common law wife. It's also called adultery, alienation of affection. I can only see this as a power play on his part against her parents at this point.

Oh, I also felt the tube should have been removed a long time ago, so my feelings have nothing to do on that issue.

husband is a mormon, so we set that reason aside. Adultery is not sufficient reason to automatically sever the legal bonds of husband and wife. Given the circumstances no court would have ruled as if it were.

It has long been the tradition and practice that when a woman marries custodial responsibility shifts from her parents to her husband. This has also come to apply to husbands.

Dan

If the concept of adultery severance is weakened and of no consequence in your eyes, then why not also the husband's authority weakened in a similar and equal manner? You do believe in equality don't you? You wouldn't want to hold to one old legal concept as deserving of full strength under the law while setting the other old legal concept aside, would you?

What's developed is a situation that allows for continued strong guardianship in formal script of matrimony, while such has become a farce due to alienation of affection and the taking of another as his common law wife.

Such is hypocrisy and that's why there is such outrage about this case today, the hypocrisy of it all.

that's more than a little bit of a stretch, James.

Dan

... with Terri's and only Terri's interests in mind is FAR more of a stretch. He didn't wait until he "discovered" her desire to die to take another woman to bed.

would you enjoy your husband to suffer alone and companionless? Would you like his misery to last five years? Ten? Would 20 years of his solitude satisfy your bitterness?

Dan

... bitterness (your nonsense perception) has nothing to do with it. While stating the following in court:

November 1992
Opening Statements, Medical Malpractice Trial

You'll find from the evidence past medical bills and lost earnings are in the neighborhood of $500,000, and to care for her in the future and compensate her for lost earnings, obviously, she cannot work. And if she lives a normal life expectancy, fifty-one years, and the cost of that, depending on whether or not in an institution or Mike takes her home is between 12 and 16 million dollars. They say, well, she doesn't have a normal life expectancy. You'll hear if she receives proper treatment, there's no reason why she shouldn't. And she is not just a head on a pillow. She can't respond much but she can respond, and she does respond a little bit, not much. But enough to give him hope.



November 1992
Testimony of Michael Schiavo, Medical Malpractice Trial

Q. Why did you want to learn to be a nurse?
MS. Because I enjoy it and I want to learn more how to take care of Terri.

Q. You're a young man. Your life is ahead of you. When you look up the road, what do you see for yourself?
MS. I see myself hopefully finishing school and taking care of my wife.

Q. Where do you want to take care of your wife?
MS. I want to bring her home.

Q. If you had the resources available to you, if you had the equipment and the people, would you do that?
MS. Yes, I would, in a heartbeat.

Q. How do you feel about being married to Terri now.
MS. I feel wonderful. She's my life and I wouldn't trade her for the world. I believe in my marriage vows.

Q. You believe in your wedding vows, what do you mean by that?
MS. I believe in the vows I took with my wife, through sickness, in health, for richer or poor. I married my wife because I love her and I want to spend the rest of my life with her. I'm going to do that.

this devoted husband was already involved with another woman. That's not several years, and furthermore he hid it from the jury that was deciding how much money to award him. Should make even you go "hmmmmmm....."

I would have gone 'wow' if you had answered the question.

Dan

His position as legal guardian was due to marriage. He was in violation of the other legally binding (Fla law) issues related to his marriage. Feeling bad for him because of what happened to his wife, understanding his loneliness, etc. is irrelevant. Apparently you have no problem with lying in court about this matter either. How sad yet predictable.

That's typical of you, Evie.

Just say you don't want to answer the question. It's really OK.

Dan

He should either have taken care of me forever, or moved on with his life by giving be back to my loving parents that were more than willing to care for me. I can even see where he could move on but still care for me (as opposed to snuffing me out). I can't put a time frame on that exactly, it would be unfair. But I can state that I wouldn't want him to be openly flouting our vows while charading as loving husband ... and I most certainly wouldn't want him to "suffer" in the bed of another woman while proclaiming under oath in a court of law that he intended to make good on his vows to me. If you think lying under oath under any circumstances is appropriate, I can't help you.

That's a perfectly valid answer.

This is an incredibly difficult situation. If we cannot make pronouncements for ourselves how appropriate is it to judge the actions of another?

Dan