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Well, someone is looking out for our kids.

Aug 27, 2019 7:36AM PDT

MODERATORS: This is FYI only, from an ad attached to a science blog I get in my mail. Delete any objectional part of it.

"How to Boost Civility in K-12 Classrooms
"There is a civility deficit in American culture and that includes inside K-12 classrooms. How can educators help students rise above the current climate of incivility and create an environment for honest discussion among students? Download this SmartFocus on the steps to civil discourse in K-12 classrooms."

Boy, they sure have the US sussed.

Anyone have suggestions for other ways of keeping our kids' minds clear of incivility?

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Yes there is a way
Aug 27, 2019 8:17AM PDT

Replace their parents with better ones. Devil

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Good one. Alternate: Teach them to choose better
Aug 27, 2019 8:30AM PDT

parents.

Too much like the old racism joke, though.
"We oughta line 'em up and shoot 'em!"
"Who?"
"You know, the [followed by a string of all available race, creed, national origin slurs]."
"I meant, Who is going to line 'em up and shoot 'em?

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I still say this needs to begin at home and at an age
Aug 30, 2019 7:44AM PDT

prior to their entering formal education. Maybe there should be education for parents on how to prepare their children to enter the long journey of schooling. I don't think there's much argument that, over time, teachers have been tasked with more in the way of the basic disciplines humans need in order to interact with other humans. Today, me thinks too many parents consider their children more like battery operated toys that they can take off of the shelf, play with until they've had enough, hit the off button and put them back. I don't have much of a solution for this and certainly government educational systems are not the approach.

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Required to drive a car: training and a license.
Aug 30, 2019 8:36AM PDT

Required to be a parent: biology.

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Teach them to talk to each other -
Aug 27, 2019 1:53PM PDT

face-to-face conversation, that is, not e-mail or instant messaging. It has been found that kids today lack empathy because they are so used to "filtering" their interactions with others through a "device". This goes for adolescents and adults, too. Sherry Turkle's " Reclaiming Conversation " book (2015) explores this in quite some depth. I've read two other books by her and am almost two-thirds of the way through the one noted above - would recommended _any_ of her books to anyone curious about our modern world and our obsession with communication tech and computers in general. She's not near as alarmist as some in the same field and is probably the best researcher of any to boot. Her prescription is mainly to treat our devices and their uses with _intention_ and not to let them rule our lives. As addicted as I was to PC games like Doom and such, plus earlier in my youth to pinball machines (!) I think she is on the right track. The really worrying thing is that for our youngest and for some people now in their early adulthood there has never been a time when they were not connected and they do not even know they are "missing out" by having actual conversations and the richness those conversations bring to life - whether in our friendships, work, or public life...

Rick

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Good catch. I would add it begins with unplugged parents.
Aug 27, 2019 5:27PM PDT

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I like my parents to be
Aug 27, 2019 6:42PM PDT

electric. That's why when Bob Dylan "plugged in" I thought he was improving - counter to all the folkies who booed him...

Thanks for the link. I take my info where I can get it - but then I'm the kind of guy who reads consumer product electronics manuals and is disappointed if there are (A) no typos, and (B) no funny translations from a foreign language that make little if no sense in _my_ language.

Rick " for most happy result, use of product outside prohibited, follow instructions carefully most time. " Jones

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early lessons
Aug 27, 2019 11:05PM PDT

"God gave you two ears, but only one mouth, because he expected you to listen twice as much as you talk". Works with three best.

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Civility
Aug 27, 2019 11:23PM PDT

A good part of that is our choice of comm method used today.

People don't talk to each other they use twitter.

It's not only k-12 it's the adults also.

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Twitter is a Troll Palace
Aug 28, 2019 12:08AM PDT

It also over inflates numerous situations that in former times may have only appeared in a local paper, but now such becomes national fodder for people to make it appear bigger than it is. I hope one day it goes the way of MySpace into obscurity. Maybe people will just get tired of it eventually.

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Get tired of it
Aug 28, 2019 12:40AM PDT

I doubt it.
It allows people to express their opinion to a much larger audience.

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for those with continual desire for...
Aug 28, 2019 5:28PM PDT

...controversy, then Twitter is the perfect place for them.

Proverbs 26:21 21As charcoal to embers and as wood to fire, so is a quarrelsome person for kindling strife.

Galatians 5:15
But if you bite and devour one another, take care that you are not consumed by one another.

Proverbs 18:6
A fool's lips bring strife, And his mouth calls for blows.

and one for the "feminazis"

Proverbs 21:19
It is better to live in a desert land than with a contentious and vexing woman.


Proverbs 25:24
It is better to live in a corner of the roof than in a house shared with a contentious woman.